Q: Is Prostitution The Oldest Profession?

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Phoenix86

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Barter people... barter. Currecny is irrelevant.

Mwilding has got the right idea.

Think caveman, not 'civilizations.'
 

Isshinryu

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Isshinryu
Originally posted by: Chronoshock
Depends on how you define profession. The first "professions" occured after the discovery of domestication of animals and agriculture so that people could settle down. Then with surplus grain production, people could devote themselves to other "professions" aside from farming. So if you discount farming I'd say craftmaking

There were villages before the domestication of animals. Catal Huyuk comes to mind. They traded obsidian for animals which they killed for food and clothing. They then begin that process of domesticating the tamest ones they recieved from traded. So you could say traders were the first "profession."

Where were they buying these non-domesticated animals from? Were they contracting people to trap them or something?

Outside nomadic tribes would bring in captured/killed animals or gathered vegetation and trade them for obsidian so they could make more and stronger weapons. This is c.6500 BCE
 

andylawcc

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Originally posted by: PanzerIV
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Um wouldnt PIMP.. have come first?
I mean how else did the first prostitute come around..
some pimp said Biatch go make me some money!
and dont come back till you got 100 gold!

LMAO! You really got me with that last line! :D We've been playing too many RTS games....:p

exactly... .hahah.a...
 

Doboji

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Originally posted by: Isshinryu
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Isshinryu
Originally posted by: Chronoshock
Depends on how you define profession. The first "professions" occured after the discovery of domestication of animals and agriculture so that people could settle down. Then with surplus grain production, people could devote themselves to other "professions" aside from farming. So if you discount farming I'd say craftmaking

There were villages before the domestication of animals. Catal Huyuk comes to mind. They traded obsidian for animals which they killed for food and clothing. They then begin that process of domesticating the tamest ones they recieved from traded. So you could say traders were the first "profession."

Where were they buying these non-domesticated animals from? Were they contracting people to trap them or something?

Outside nomadic tribes would bring in captured/killed animals or gathered vegetation and trade them for obsidian so they could make more and stronger weapons. This is c.6500 BCE

betcha 10 bucks tribes were also selling sex with their women for obsidian at exactly the same time...
I bet as soon as the concept of trade came into existence so did prostitution.

-Max
 

Isshinryu

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Originally posted by: Doboji
betcha 10 bucks tribes were also selling sex with their women for obsidian at exactly the same time...
I bet as soon as the concept of trade came into existence so did prostitution.

-Max

Quite possibly. If tribes would trade animals, plants, and women for goods they didn't have, wouldn't that make trading the first profession?
 

Doboji

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Originally posted by: Isshinryu
Originally posted by: Doboji
betcha 10 bucks tribes were also selling sex with their women for obsidian at exactly the same time...
I bet as soon as the concept of trade came into existence so did prostitution.

-Max

Quite possibly. If tribes would trade animals, plants, and women for goods they didn't have, wouldn't that make trading the first profession?

yes but trading isn't a profession... the profession is whatever you do to get what you trade.... so the profession is technically pimping... so pimping is actually the oldest profession, not prostitution.

-Max
 

Isshinryu

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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Isshinryu
Originally posted by: Doboji
betcha 10 bucks tribes were also selling sex with their women for obsidian at exactly the same time...
I bet as soon as the concept of trade came into existence so did prostitution.

-Max

Quite possibly. If tribes would trade animals, plants, and women for goods they didn't have, wouldn't that make trading the first profession?

yes but trading isn't a profession... the profession is whatever you do to get what you trade.... so the profession is technically pimping... so pimping is actually the oldest profession, not prostitution.

-Max

Mmm...no. Trading is a profession. You could be specialized in prostitution, you could be specialized in gold, or you could trade an eclectic mix of things (much like the early nomadic tribes did) and just be a general trader. If trading isn't a profession, then what were the early merchant's professions?



 

Doboji

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Originally posted by: Isshinryu
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Isshinryu
Originally posted by: Doboji
betcha 10 bucks tribes were also selling sex with their women for obsidian at exactly the same time...
I bet as soon as the concept of trade came into existence so did prostitution.

-Max

Quite possibly. If tribes would trade animals, plants, and women for goods they didn't have, wouldn't that make trading the first profession?

yes but trading isn't a profession... the profession is whatever you do to get what you trade.... so the profession is technically pimping... so pimping is actually the oldest profession, not prostitution.

-Max

Mmm...no. Trading is a profession. You could be specialized in prostitution, you could be specialized in gold, or you could trade an eclectic mix of things (much like the early nomadic tribes did) and just be a general trader. If trading isn't a profession, then what were the early merchant's professions?
Yes... but at first... trading was not a profession.

-Max
 

slurmsmackenzie

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Originally posted by: Cogman
couldnt have been, man had to get old enough to get to the age to want sex before it could be a profession. To get there requires food which comes from hunting and such.

so where exactly does a lion, tiger, dinosaur, other carnivorous animal clock in at? they all hunt. hunting isn't a profession. i agree with the statement about skilled artisans making there appearance. craftsmen, whores, and such.

 

Isshinryu

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Originally posted by: Doboji

Yes... but at first... trading was not a profession.

-Max

Why? It seems to me that's how Catal Huyuk managed to survive. Everything they had came solely from trade.
 

Dogmeat

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Politician is the oldest profession.

Gronk smashes head and steels food and woman of other neandrathal - the rest vote him the leader.

Of course Warrior is a close second as Gronk and his buddies get high on some over-ripe fruit and go raiding the neighbors, bashing in heads for their food and women.

Probably thrid is the undertaker. Those bashes in heads get stinky after awhile.
 

zugzoog

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Originally posted by: silverpig
Well I'd consider it a profession if someone pays you to do it. So it'd have to come after the invention of a currency which was first used in Mesopotamia if I remember my history stuff correctly. And again, IIRC, they had currency to keep track of farming goods (I'll give you 7 credits for a sack of spuds... then you take the 7 credits over to the pig guy to buy some bacon for a sammich). So I'd have to say farming.


This or currency making!