[Q] Gun People?

[Aquaman]

the P90 looks cooler to me

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Excelsior]

I agree. Its so compact too! Only weighs 6.6lbs with loaded magazine. :Q

 

[HorizonSeeker]

The P90 and its pistol companion, the Five-seveN, yep, that's right, N is cap because that's how you get FN, fabrique nationale, maker of these two weapons, p90 50rd std. Five-seveN 20rd std. neither will ever see it's day in the civilian market, closest we'll ever get is the airsoft.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: HorizonSeeker
The P90 and its pistol companion, the Five-seveN, yep, that's right, N is cap because that's how you get FN, fabrique nationale, maker of these two weapons, p90 50rd std. Five-seveN 20rd std. neither will ever see it's day in the civilian market, closest we'll ever get is the airsoft.

Holy crap.......... what a pistol :Q AP also :Q

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[PsychoAndy]

Originally posted by: Aquaman

Originally posted by: HorizonSeeker
The P90 and its pistol companion, the Five-seveN, yep, that's right, N is cap because that's how you get FN, fabrique nationale, maker of these two weapons, p90 50rd std. Five-seveN 20rd std. neither will ever see it's day in the civilian market, closest we'll ever get is the airsoft.

Holy crap.......... what a pistol :Q AP also :Q

Cheers,
Aquaman

Not to mention ammo would be hella expensive. You can't go to wal mart and pick up a box of 5.7 mm ammo.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: PsychoAndy

Originally posted by: Aquaman

Originally posted by: HorizonSeeker
The P90 and its pistol companion, the Five-seveN, yep, that's right, N is cap because that's how you get FN, fabrique nationale, maker of these two weapons, p90 50rd std. Five-seveN 20rd std. neither will ever see it's day in the civilian market, closest we'll ever get is the airsoft.

Holy crap.......... what a pistol :Q AP also :Q

Cheers,
Aquaman

Not to mention ammo would be hella expensive. You can't go to wal mart and pick up a box of 5.7 mm ammo.

Still very cool

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: PsychoAndy

Originally posted by: Aquaman

Originally posted by: HorizonSeeker
The P90 and its pistol companion, the Five-seveN, yep, that's right, N is cap because that's how you get FN, fabrique nationale, maker of these two weapons, p90 50rd std. Five-seveN 20rd std. neither will ever see it's day in the civilian market, closest we'll ever get is the airsoft.

Holy crap.......... what a pistol :Q AP also :Q

Cheers,
Aquaman

Not to mention ammo would be hella expensive. You can't go to wal mart and pick up a box of 5.7 mm ammo.

Even if I was a cop......... I probably would not be able to import it into Canada abd like you said.......... hella expensive ammo......... unless I could get the equipment to make my own............ but then it probably would not be as good af the factory ammo.

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I seem to recall that the 5.7mm ammo is not lead - I think the bullets are aluminum or another light metal, with a steel tip, jacketed in copper, to better penetrate armor. Pretty weird stuff - I think I will stick to .45 ACP for self-defense!

 

[MacBaine]

The P-90 is particularly interesting in how the recoil works. It's designed so that the recoil doesn't draw the gun upwards, it causes it to make a small circle... meaning that the bullets will stay in relatively the same target area instead of drifting up.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito
I seem to recall that the 5.7mm ammo is not lead - I think the bullets are aluminum or another light metal, with a steel tip, jacketed in copper, to better penetrate armor. Pretty weird stuff - I think I will stick to .45 ACP for self-defense!

I just saw the gunn on Starget SG1 and Ballistic: Ecks vs Sever............... looked really cool. Very interesting magazine configuration.

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: MacBaine
The P-90 is particularly interesting in how the recoil works. It's designed so that the recoil doesn't draw the gun upwards, it causes it to make a small circle... meaning that the bullets will stay in relatively the same target area instead of drifting up.

I wonder how they achieve that? I guess it might be a function of the fact that the mass of the weapon surrounds the barrel much more than on a traditional rifle or SMG.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: MacBaine
The P-90 is particularly interesting in how the recoil works. It's designed so that the recoil doesn't draw the gun upwards, it causes it to make a small circle... meaning that the bullets will stay in relatively the same target area instead of drifting up.

I wonder how they achieve that? I guess it might be a function of the fact that the mass of the weapon surrounds the barrel much more than on a traditional rifle or SMG.

hey......... what is the "bull pup" configuration they mention this gun has?

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Aquaman


hey......... what is the "bull pup" configuration they mention this gun has?

Cheers,
Aquaman

A bullpup rifle is any gun where the magazine and chamber sit behind the handgrip and trigger. They tend to be much more compact that traditional weapons, but with a similar barrel length (and hence accuracy). The only two that come to mind at the moment are the P-90 and the Steyr AUG.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: Aquaman


hey......... what is the "bull pup" configuration they mention this gun has?

Cheers,
Aquaman

A bullpup rifle is any gun where the magazine and chamber sit behind the handgrip and trigger. They tend to be much more compact that traditional weapons, but with a similar barrel length (and hence accuracy). The only two that come to mind at the moment are the P-90 and the Steyr AUG.

ah......... thanks

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[ROTC1983]

That looks pretty cool

 

[Bulk Beef]

Originally posted by: Aquaman

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: Aquaman


hey......... what is the "bull pup" configuration they mention this gun has?

Cheers,
Aquaman

A bullpup rifle is any gun where the magazine and chamber sit behind the handgrip and trigger. They tend to be much more compact that traditional weapons, but with a similar barrel length (and hence accuracy). The only two that come to mind at the moment are the P-90 and the Steyr AUG.

ah......... thanks

Cheers,
Aquaman

The French use the FAMAS, and the British use the SA80.

 

[Aquaman]

Interesting guns but I still like the P90

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Bushmaster made a few bullpup variants but have discontinued them, M17 I think. Vektor CR21 is.

I had a Calico M100 a long time ago, shouldn't have sold it

Worth tons now. Was a pain in the ass to load (100 round mag) and not reliable in feeding.

All P90s are post ban and not availible to civilians

There are a few AUGs that are. Full autos around 10K and semis around 5-6. There used to be the USR which was a semi auto AUG converted to ATF specs so could be bought anywhere. They only made about 3000 before it was stopped. They go for about 3k+

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Bushmaster made a few bullpup variants but have discontinued them, M17 I think. Vektor CR21 is.

I had a Calico M100 a long time ago, shouldn't have sold it

Worth tons now. Was a pain in the ass to load (100 round mag) and not reliable in feeding.

All P90s are post ban and not availible to civilians

There are a few AUGs that are. Full autos around 10K and semis around 5-6. There used to be the USR which was a semi auto AUG converted to ATF specs so could be bought anywhere. They only made about 3000 before it was stopped. They go for about 3k+

Hitman?

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Aquaman

Originally posted by: Aquaman
Yup........... that's it

Thanks

Cheers,
Aquaman

well.......... a replica any ways

Cheers,
Aquaman

The airsoft one is cheaper..and probably a little more fun.

I have an airsoft AUG - about 1/2lb lighter than the real one..not too far off. It balances very well..I'd love to shoot the real thing.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Excelsior
From the manufacturers web site:
How durable is the gun? The gun is very durable we submitted it to the NATO type testing.

What type of accuracy can be expected from a P90? The accuracy requirement for the P90 is 9 out of 10 rounds with a figure of merit not exceeding 7.87in at 50 meters

How strong is the action? Very strong since it is a bull pup.

Is the P90 easy to strip down and clean? Yes, it only has 5 major components and can disassembled in 5 seconds. The design is fool proof.

How weather/ corrosion resistant is the gun? The frame is made of high impact polymer, the barrel support is quality aluminum with hard anodize, the barrel, breech block, flash hider are made of steel and are manganese phosphate, the barrel bore is hard chrome plated, the other components are polymer, stainless pins and springs

What type of safety's and safety features are on the gun? The gun fires only from a closed breech, there is a selector that prevents the trigger from being manipulated while on safety there is a drop safety feature that blocks the secondary sear from being disengaged when dropped on the muzzle and there is an automatic sear that will prevent the hammer from falling since it will reengage when the weapon is dropped on the butt. The gun fires from a closed breech

What is the survivability of the P90? It is very durable as we submitted it to the same tests required by NATO

Are there any jamming or feeding problems with the gun? No, again due to the design the feeding is extremely reliable

What type of accessories are available? The gun is ready for all accessories such as tactical light, case collector, suppressor, laser pointer, tactical sling, and many sights with the addition of a Picatinny rail for the standard model.

Can the weapon be supplied in a semi automatic version only? Yes

What type of sights are on the gun? The standard model has a solid glass of 14mm in diameter with aiming marks, circle and a cross hair that illuminates in low light condition with a tritium cell. There are also iron sight on both sides of the primary sight. The Triple Rail model has no sight so any day or night sights can be mounted, the interface is a Picatinny rail

What is the muzzle velocity? 2345 f/sec

regarding the bold: last I rememeber hearing, the P-90 still had jamming problems due to the magazine. Drop it/jar it hard, and 4-5 rounds later, it would jam. Again, they might have fixed thatt by now.

9 out of 10 rounds with a figure of merit not exceeding 7.87in at 50 meters
I can think of pistol that are more accurate than that!

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: Aquaman


hey......... what is the "bull pup" configuration they mention this gun has?

Cheers,
Aquaman

A bullpup rifle is any gun where the magazine and chamber sit behind the handgrip and trigger. They tend to be much more compact that traditional weapons, but with a similar barrel length (and hence accuracy). The only two that come to mind at the moment are the P-90 and the Steyr AUG.

As I recall, in most bull pups, maintaining accurate full auto fire in bursts longer than 3 rounds harder due to the location of the chambers vs CM of the firearm

 

[PCboy]

hmmm, did everyone forget the lovely weapon in splinter cell... Sam fisher used this bullpup weapon aka sc20k.

Such a very lovely weapon... wish I can have one..

splinter cell pic (in the Fabrique Nationale website, it's the third F2000 pic)