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Budmantom

Lifer
Aug 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Guys, it's Winnar. He knows the shit he is saying is stupid, he just doesn't care because he's probably about 12 years old. Hopefully someone will take notice of this sooner rather than later and actually ban him.


Yes ban all descent.....

First, learn how to spell dissent, secondly read the rest of my post that you neglected to bold.

Then again, you're Budmantom. This means that you're one of the stupidest people that contribute to these forums. (either that, or you're a top notch troll)

You have a great way to express your point of view, we will not become a socialist or communist nation and everyone that disagrees should be silenced or banned.

By the way can any of you leftists make a point w/o personal attacks?

I know that anytime you disagree the other person is stupid and a troll and must be banned.

 

Budmantom

Lifer
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Originally posted by: K3N
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: K3N
Putin speaking against socialism? MY ASS! Putin nationalized 50.01% of their largest company, Gazprom, which is about as socialist as you can get. As a result of nationalizing gazprom, the russian standards of living and amount of industries rised dramatically.

Obama will nationalize all failing industries and he will run them the way the Democratic part has run Fannie May and Freddie Mac.


Fannie May and Freddie Mac were good organizations until they were privatized in 1968 under Nixon.

Free Market Touter: But, but, THATS NOT FREE MARKET!!

lol

Yeah that's the free market and what Obama is proposing isn't socialism.



 

DealMonkey

Lifer
Nov 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Guys, it's Winnar. He knows the shit he is saying is stupid, he just doesn't care because he's probably about 12 years old. Hopefully someone will take notice of this sooner rather than later and actually ban him.


Yes ban all descent.....

First, learn how to spell dissent, secondly read the rest of my post that you neglected to bold.

Then again, you're Budmantom. This means that you're one of the stupidest people that contribute to these forums. (either that, or you're a top notch troll)

You have a great way to express your point of view, we will not become a socialist or communist nation and everyone that disagrees should be silenced or banned.

By the way can any of you leftists make a point w/o personal attacks?

I know that anytime you disagree the other person is stupid and a troll and must be banned.
Come on Bud, your classic one-liner posts are some of the dumbest around. Everyone knows it. You probably take 2 seconds to read the title of the thread and then post your usual moronic troll post against Obama, liberals, democrats, or basically the equivalent to "LOLCHANGE."
 

Specop 007

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The Democrats are really socialists?? Well let me pause to say NO SHIT. A bunch of us have been saying that for a long, long time.
 

Socio

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Perhaps we are really heading towards Facism, not Socialism;

Facism Checklist

The 14 characteristics are:


1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -- Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights -- Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to 'look the other way' or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -- The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic, or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military -- Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism -- The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media -- Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or through sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in wartime, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security -- Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined -- Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected -- The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed -- Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts -- Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free-expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment -- Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses, and even forego civil liberties, in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption -- Fascist regimes are almost always governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions, and who use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections -- Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against (or even the assassination of) opposition candidates, the use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and the manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Looks like we have or are filling that list already, pretty scary stuff!



 

umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: winnar111
Putin would be a hell of a better President than Zero. Can we trade?

First of all I know you're just trolling as usual, second of all Putin isn't Russia's president, third of all comparing the US to the Soviet Union is retarded, and fourth of all considering all the people on here who claim to be concerned that their rights are being threatened, if you REALLY want to see how crushing rights is done, go ask Putin.

Just ignore the troll. He'll go away if no one takes his trollbait.
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: Socio
Perhaps we are really heading towards Facism, not Socialism;

Facism Checklist

The 14 characteristics are:


1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -- Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights -- Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to 'look the other way' or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -- The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic, or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military -- Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism -- The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media -- Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or through sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in wartime, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security -- Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined -- Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected -- The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed -- Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts -- Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free-expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment -- Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses, and even forego civil liberties, in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption -- Fascist regimes are almost always governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions, and who use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections -- Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against (or even the assassination of) opposition candidates, the use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and the manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Looks like we have or are filling that list already, pretty scary stuff!

Fascism is a form of Socialism. Sure its a form that mainly benefits the rich and powerful but its still a form of socialism. We came closes to this form of socialism under the previous president Bush Jr.
 

imported_K3N

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: Socio
Perhaps we are really heading towards Facism, not Socialism;

Facism Checklist

The 14 characteristics are:


1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -- Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights -- Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to 'look the other way' or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -- The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic, or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military -- Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism -- The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media -- Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or through sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in wartime, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security -- Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined -- Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected -- The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed -- Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts -- Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free-expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment -- Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses, and even forego civil liberties, in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption -- Fascist regimes are almost always governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions, and who use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections -- Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against (or even the assassination of) opposition candidates, the use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and the manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Looks like we have or are filling that list already, pretty scary stuff!

Fascism is a form of Socialism. Sure its a form that mainly benefits the rich and powerful but its still a form of socialism. We came closes to this form of socialism under the previous president Bush Jr.



Its this kind of disinformation that is dangerous. Read the book Barack H Obama the Unauthorized Biography to learn that Fascism is the alternative to socialism when dealing with an economic crisis. Fascism preserves the position of the ruling class (the rich primarily) while socialism tries to destroy it.

Fascists demagogues often pose themselves as socialist to dupe the masses into going along with them to seize totalitarian power. Obama's mass movement and goon squads are indeed a precise example of fascism.

Fascism = Corporatsm also, according to the father of fascism himself, Benito Mussolini. Barky will preserve the power of Wall Street. Obama's 2nd top funder was Goldman Sachs.
 

Nemesis 1

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I have said it many times here. I study history alot. The Russians are not the ones we want to go against. We need to stay out of it. Let Old World resolve its problem . As we take care of ours. Its clear what those problems are.

When Putin told Bush to get the F--- away from him at the carnival in China. That Put Putin right up there on my list of OK.

Let me ask you guys this . Who was it that Left the USSR on Dec 25,1991. The Kazar Jews. over 800,000. Strange time ti be leaving. I would think it would be the other way around.

 

MovingTarget

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Originally posted by: K3N
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: Socio
Perhaps we are really heading towards Facism, not Socialism;

Facism Checklist

The 14 characteristics are:


1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -- Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights -- Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to 'look the other way' or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -- The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic, or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military -- Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism -- The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media -- Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or through sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in wartime, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security -- Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined -- Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected -- The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed -- Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts -- Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free-expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment -- Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses, and even forego civil liberties, in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption -- Fascist regimes are almost always governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions, and who use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections -- Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against (or even the assassination of) opposition candidates, the use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and the manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Looks like we have or are filling that list already, pretty scary stuff!

Fascism is a form of Socialism. Sure its a form that mainly benefits the rich and powerful but its still a form of socialism. We came closes to this form of socialism under the previous president Bush Jr.



Its this kind of disinformation that is dangerous. Read the book Barack H Obama the Unauthorized Biography to learn that Fascism is the alternative to socialism when dealing with an economic crisis. Fascism preserves the position of the ruling class (the rich primarily) while socialism tries to destroy it.

Fascists demagogues often pose themselves as socialist to dupe the masses into going along with them to seize totalitarian power. Obama's mass movement and goon squads are indeed a precise example of fascism.

Fascism = Corporatsm also, according to the father of fascism himself, Benito Mussolini. Barky will preserve the power of Wall Street. Obama's 2nd top funder was Goldman Sachs.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that Fascism is a proper form of socialism. However, it is a general "form". Maybe you've heard of a party called the NSDAP. Roughly translated it is the "National Socialist Workers Party". They were mortal enemies with the far left, to the point of even having gun battles in the streets with them a while back. Maybe you've heard of them.....by another name....

Fascism may have different aims than Socialism proper, but the appeal to society is quite the same, aside from a massive injection of nationalism and/or fervent patriotism. Corporatism is a great way of describing it, as the means to its ends, but it is eerily similar to what the ultimate conclusion of Bush Jr's rhetoric was. Putin himself, seeing as how he ran his government, seems to be a fascist. The situation with Gazprom and the independent presses were just the icing on the cake. I might take heed more of what was said if it had come from, say, Gorbachov, but, that seems unlikely.

Anything from Putin must be taken with a grain of salt. Don't let people just cry "OMGSOCIALISM" at the drop of a hat without any justification. We have thus far maintaiined an uneasy balance between the state and the private sector. Having the pendulum swing too far in either direction IS dangerous, as we have seen time and time again.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: winnar111
Putin would be a hell of a better President than Zero. Can we trade?

First of all I know you're just trolling as usual, second of all Putin isn't Russia's president, third of all comparing the US to the Soviet Union is retarded, and fourth of all considering all the people on here who claim to be concerned that their rights are being threatened, if you REALLY want to see how crushing rights is done, go ask Putin.

Just ignore the troll. He'll go away if no one takes his trollbait.

Troll or not, you gotta stop and think about it. Even Russia is thinking "Obama? Really? What were you thinking...."
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: winnar111
Putin would be a hell of a better President than Zero. Can we trade?

First of all I know you're just trolling as usual, second of all Putin isn't Russia's president, third of all comparing the US to the Soviet Union is retarded, and fourth of all considering all the people on here who claim to be concerned that their rights are being threatened, if you REALLY want to see how crushing rights is done, go ask Putin.

Just ignore the troll. He'll go away if no one takes his trollbait.

Troll or not, you gotta stop and think about it. Even Russia is thinking "Obama? Really? What were you thinking...."

Uhmm, no they aren't. Obama is insanely, crushingly popular the world over. It's not easy to top Obama's current approval rating in America, which sits somewhere close to 70%, but in many other countries it's considerably higher than that. Hell, in Canada Obama's approval tops 80%.

Seems like the rest of the world is saying "thank god".
 

Budmantom

Lifer
Aug 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: winnar111
Putin would be a hell of a better President than Zero. Can we trade?

First of all I know you're just trolling as usual, second of all Putin isn't Russia's president, third of all comparing the US to the Soviet Union is retarded, and fourth of all considering all the people on here who claim to be concerned that their rights are being threatened, if you REALLY want to see how crushing rights is done, go ask Putin.

Just ignore the troll. He'll go away if no one takes his trollbait.

Troll or not, you gotta stop and think about it. Even Russia is thinking "Obama? Really? What were you thinking...."

Uhmm, no they aren't. Obama is insanely, crushingly popular the world over. It's not easy to top Obama's current approval rating in America, which sits somewhere close to 70%, but in many other countries it's considerably higher than that. Hell, in Canada Obama's approval tops 80%.

Seems like the rest of the world is saying "thank god".

The same world that hates the US? :confused:

 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: eskimospy

Uhmm, no they aren't. Obama is insanely, crushingly popular the world over. It's not easy to top Obama's current approval rating in America, which sits somewhere close to 70%, but in many other countries it's considerably higher than that. Hell, in Canada Obama's approval tops 80%.

Seems like the rest of the world is saying "thank god".

The same world that hates the US? :confused:

The world doesn't hate the US.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Troll or not, you gotta stop and think about it. Even Russia is thinking "Obama? Really? What were you thinking...."

Uhmm, no they aren't. Obama is insanely, crushingly popular the world over. It's not easy to top Obama's current approval rating in America, which sits somewhere close to 70%, but in many other countries it's considerably higher than that. Hell, in Canada Obama's approval tops 80%.

Seems like the rest of the world is saying "thank god".

Oh, that certainly explains the OP. Russia was just saying "thank god".
 

Budmantom

Lifer
Aug 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: eskimospy

Uhmm, no they aren't. Obama is insanely, crushingly popular the world over. It's not easy to top Obama's current approval rating in America, which sits somewhere close to 70%, but in many other countries it's considerably higher than that. Hell, in Canada Obama's approval tops 80%.

Seems like the rest of the world is saying "thank god".

The same world that hates the US? :confused:

The world doesn't hate the US.

You think that Russia and Iran are saying "thank god", put the crack pipe down man.

 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Troll or not, you gotta stop and think about it. Even Russia is thinking "Obama? Really? What were you thinking...."

Uhmm, no they aren't. Obama is insanely, crushingly popular the world over. It's not easy to top Obama's current approval rating in America, which sits somewhere close to 70%, but in many other countries it's considerably higher than that. Hell, in Canada Obama's approval tops 80%.

Seems like the rest of the world is saying "thank god".

Oh, that certainly explains the OP. Russia was just saying "thank god".

Yeap, around the election Russia's support for Obama almost topped 90%.

Face it, he is beloved around the world. It doesn't mean you have to support him or like him yourself though, don't worry.
 

Colt45

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Originally posted by: eskimospy


Yeap, around the election Russia's support for Obama almost topped 90%.

Face it, he is beloved around the world. It doesn't mean you have to support him or like him yourself though, don't worry.

Not necessarily loved, just less evil :)

You could have put Bush against Stalin, and 90%+ of Russians would have supported Stalin. I'm not seeing the point here.
Does the world love Obama, or do they just dislike him less than Bush? :D

edit: quote nesting hell fix
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Colt45
Originally posted by: eskimospy


Yeap, around the election Russia's support for Obama almost topped 90%.

Face it, he is beloved around the world. It doesn't mean you have to support him or like him yourself though, don't worry.

Not necessarily loved, just less evil :)

You could have put Bush against Stalin, and 90%+ of Russians would have supported Stalin. I'm not seeing the point here.
Does the world love Obama, or do they just dislike him less than Bush? :D

edit: quote nesting hell fix

At the moment there seems to be genuine, widespread affection for him. I'm sure that as time goes on he will become less popular around the world (as I bet you he'll do a bunch of things they won't like), but by any measure he is tremendously popular.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: eskimospy

Uhmm, no they aren't. Obama is insanely, crushingly popular the world over. It's not easy to top Obama's current approval rating in America, which sits somewhere close to 70%, but in many other countries it's considerably higher than that. Hell, in Canada Obama's approval tops 80%.

Seems like the rest of the world is saying "thank god".

The same world that hates the US? :confused:

The world doesn't hate the US.

You think that Russia and Iran are saying "thank god", put the crack pipe down man.

So now 'the world' is defined as 'Russia and Iran'. Coming from you, this level of stupidity is not surprising.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: winnar111
Putin would be a hell of a better President than Zero. Can we trade?

First of all I know you're just trolling as usual, second of all Putin isn't Russia's president, third of all comparing the US to the Soviet Union is retarded, and fourth of all considering all the people on here who claim to be concerned that their rights are being threatened, if you REALLY want to see how crushing rights is done, go ask Putin.

Just ignore the troll. He'll go away if no one takes his trollbait.

Troll or not, you gotta stop and think about it. Even Russia is thinking "Obama? Really? What were you thinking...."

Hahaha, and what was the other choice?
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: winnar111
Putin would be a hell of a better President than Zero. Can we trade?

First of all I know you're just trolling as usual, second of all Putin isn't Russia's president, third of all comparing the US to the Soviet Union is retarded, and fourth of all considering all the people on here who claim to be concerned that their rights are being threatened, if you REALLY want to see how crushing rights is done, go ask Putin.

Just ignore the troll. He'll go away if no one takes his trollbait.

Troll or not, you gotta stop and think about it. Even Russia is thinking "Obama? Really? What were you thinking...."

Hahaha, and what was the other choice?

No better, which is the heart of the problem. "We the people" are being led around by the nose.
 

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: winnar111
Putin would be a hell of a better President than Zero. Can we trade?

First of all I know you're just trolling as usual, second of all Putin isn't Russia's president, third of all comparing the US to the Soviet Union is retarded, and fourth of all considering all the people on here who claim to be concerned that their rights are being threatened, if you REALLY want to see how crushing rights is done, go ask Putin.

Just ignore the troll. He'll go away if no one takes his trollbait.

Troll or not, you gotta stop and think about it. Even Russia is thinking "Obama? Really? What were you thinking...."

Hahaha, and what was the other choice?

No better, which is the heart of the problem. "We the people" are being led around by the nose.

I concur.