put too much wd40 on my door?

Ika

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So the door to my room squeaked, pretty noisily. I sprayed it with WD40 about a week ago and, as usual, like magic, the squeaks were gone. However, now it seems like my door is *too* lubricated - if it's not completely shut, the door will swing to a certain point on its own. Is there any way to decrease the amount of lubrication short of taking out the hinge spikes and wiping them down? I originally thought of dripping a little lighter fluid into the hinge and catching it in a bowl or something, but I'm not sure if that's a good idea or not, being lighter fluid. Anyone have any ideas?
 

Check

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WD40 is not a lubricant

I'd tell that to the folks making the shit. I don't think they are aware of this.

http://www.wd40.com/faqs/

"What does WD-40 do?

WD-40 fulfills five basic functions:
1. CLEANS: WD-40 gets under dirt, grime and grease to clean. It also dissolves adhesives, allowing easy removal of labels, tape and excess bonding material.
2. DISPLACES MOISTURE: Because WD-40 displaces moisture, it quickly dries out electrical systems to eliminate moisture-induced short circuits.
3. PENETRATES: WD-40 loosens rust-to-metal bonds and frees stuck, frozen or rusted metal parts.
4. LUBRICATES: WD-40's lubricating ingredients are widely dispersed and tenaciously held to all moving parts.
5. PROTECTS: WD-40 protects metal surfaces with corrosion-resistant ingredients to shield against moisture and other corrosive elements."
 
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Ika

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Fine - it's a lubricant AND a solvent. But for my purposes, it has lubricated the hinge of my door. I don't particularly care for the semantics, as long as it does what I want it to do.

Also, from Wikipedia:
The long term active ingredient is a non-volatile, viscous oil which remains on the surface, providing lubrication and protection from moisture. This is diluted with a volatile hydrocarbon to give a low viscosity fluid which can be sprayed and thus get into crevices. The volatile hydrocarbon then evaporates, leaving the oil behind.
This leads me to believe that WD40 is indeed a lubricant, no?
 

JohnCU

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3-in-1 oil is much more effective. WD40 is a solvent and used to prevent corrosion and repel water.

/me spreads the knowledge.
 

Check

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Fine - it's a lubricant AND a solvent. But for my purposes, it has lubricated the hinge of my door. I don't particularly care for the semantics, as long as it does what I want it to do.

Also, from Wikipedia:
This leads me to believe that WD40 is indeed a lubricant, no?

No dude. Evidently we can only classify it as a solvent OR a lubricant. It can't be both...
 

JohnCU

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To understand how WD40 might work as a lubricant, we need to first understand its chemical composition. To do this, I went to WD40's Web site. While the marketing pitch lists the ingredients as "secret", the MSDS indicates the following: 60 to 70 percent petroleum distillates 15 to 25 percent base oil and 2 to 3 percent carbon dioxide So it would appear that WD40 is simply a combination of petroleum products, mixed with a propellant (CO2).

To understand the efficacy of WD40 as a lubricant for the application you stated, we need to compare how the formulation of WD40 differs from common lubricants designed for use with rolling element bearings. Because you don't mention the exact type of bearing or application, it's hard to be specific; however, a few general comments can be made which pertain to selecting lubricants for rolling elements bearings:

1) The lubricant must have good oxidation resistance to resist sludge and varnish buildup at operating temperatures. While most lubricants are formulated with antioxidant additives to provide this protection, in addition to any natural protection afforded by the use of synthetic base stocks, it appears from the MSDS sheet that WD40 does not contain such additives and would likely degrade and form sludge fairly rapidly if used at even moderate operating temperatures.

2) You will hear it said that "viscosity is the single most important property when selecting a lubricant". This is particularly true for rolling element bearing lubrication. Viscosity selection is based on a number of factors, including bearing type (ball, cylindrical roller, etc.), speed, bearing size, load and operating temperature. It is usually selected by calculating the bearing speed factor dN and the projected operating temperature. dN can be calculated as follows: dN = N(d+D)/2 where N = speed (in rpm) d = bore diameter (in mm) D = bearing OD (in mm). Standard charts are then available to select the viscosity given the dN factor and the temperature. While I do not know categorically what the viscosity of the petroleum distillates or base oil is in WD40, I know from experience (like everyone else, I've used WD40!) that it does not have a particularly high viscosity. So unless this application is particularly high-speed, operating at low to moderate temperatures, it is unlikely that WD40 contains an oil of sufficiently high viscosity to provide adequate lubrication for the rolling element/bearing raceway interface.

One other factor to consider: Depending on bearing design, the roll/cage interface will also likely operate under hydrodynamic conditions. Under these conditions, the typical rule of thumb is for a minimum viscosity of 4 cSt, at operating temperature, to support the load. Again, it is unlikely that WD40 would meet these requirements as a lubricant.

3) Depending on operating environment, the bearing will be prone to corrosion, particularly rusting. Nearly all lubricants contain specific additives, called rust inhibitors to counteract this. Again, the MSDS sheet offers no evidence of such additives in WD40.

4) Depending on bearing design and application, the use of anti-wear additives may be required, particularly where heavy or shock loads are present or where the application dictates possible thrust loading between the end of the rolling element and the raceway flanges. Based on the MSDS sheet, WD40 does not appear to contain such additives, which may result in fatigue and/or adhesive wear. Rereading this response, it is apparent that I'm not particularly enamored with WD40 as a lubricant. My intent was not to be completely negative. WD40 is manufactured and marketed as a household lubricant for those "small jobs" or as a rust remover - heck I have a can in the garage as we speak! For these applications, it does a fine job.

However, WD40 is not sold, nor should it be used as a replacement for the appropriately selected lubricant for rolling element applications in the plant - unless of course we're talking the fan in your computer! I hope this helps!

Mark Barnes, Noria Corporation

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foghorn67

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WD-40 is a rust accelerator. I only use it as a cheap bug and tar remover and other cleaning applications. There is better stuff that lubricates.
 

rudeguy

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WD-40 is a rust accelerator. I only use it as a cheap bug and tar remover and other cleaning applications. There is better stuff that lubricates.

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Robsasman

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Pull one of the pins out of the door and lay it on a flat piece of concrete,(basement floor, outside sidewalk) Hit it with a hammer and put a little bend to it. This will cause a bit of resistance and the door wont swing.
 

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to JohnCU:

WD-40 is classified as a lubricant, you cannot argue this.
Is it ideal for high speed bearing applications like the one you posted above? No, but just because it isn't suitable for a particular application doesn't disqualify it from being a lubricant.

Here let me help you along with this concept.

Chain mail - effective against the broad sword, not effective against an m16. Yet it is still armor.

Do you understand what I am getting at?
 

Zedtom

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Pull one of the pins out of the door and lay it on a flat piece of concrete,(basement floor, outside sidewalk) Hit it with a hammer and put a little bend to it. This will cause a bit of resistance and the door wont swing.

This will solve your problem. If you feel that a hammer is too severe, try rolling a piece of paper around the pin as a sleeve to make it thicker.
 

arcenite

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to JohnCU:

WD-40 is classified as a lubricant, you cannot argue this.
Is it ideal for high speed bearing applications like the one you posted above? No, but just because it isn't suitable for a particular application doesn't disqualify it from being a lubricant.

Here let me help you along with this concept.

Chain mail - effective against the broad sword, not effective against an m16. Yet it is still armor.

Do you understand what I am getting at?

Is chain mail the same thing as a chain letter?