Push mail....finally got it working...OMFG...

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loup garou

Lifer
Feb 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Welcome to the world of Blackberry. And ActiveSync is still nowhere close.
You're right. EAS is better. :D

No Security is good?
haha...I think I was on your side of this argument a year ago or so. SSL is good enough for your online financial transactions but not your email?

Got Device Policies? Triggered Pull is ok for you?
Limited, to be expanded in Exchange 2007 (not thrilled about that).
DirectPush is not triggered pull.

Got a link for the Direct Pull claim? (I just want to understand)
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While it is not push in the sense that BES is (and can't be without the network RIM has backing it), note that the heartbeat is not a trigger. It simply maintains the HTTPS connection between the device and Exchange server. In practice (we sync Blackberries via BES and WinMo devices via EAS simultaneously on our network as well as simultaneously or separately on our clients' networks), there is no difference. Incoming emails appear on WinMo devices faster than in Outlook inboxes in cached Exchange mode. Sent items go out immediately. Other Outlook items are synced immediately. Ok, there is one drawback, notes require a wired sync to a desktop because of voice notes. I'm interested to see how Blackberries will handle this as the 4.2 OS is supposed to support voice notes.

Just to let you know, I don't really think EAS is a "better" technology than push via BES. I just know what a rabid fanboy you are and wanted to draw you into a discussion. :p
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: JS80
wow...if i had push email...i would go nuts and throw my treo out the window.

Why DONT you have PE?

What's PE?

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: JS80
wow...if i had push email...i would go nuts and throw my treo out the window.

Treo ? What model. Depending on your service provider you can get good, which while expensive, is pretty useful.

I have the 700p. I seriously get an email every 5 minutes. It's bearable on outlook on a desktop, but if i were out getting emails every 5 min, i would go nuts.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: JS80
wow...if i had push email...i would go nuts and throw my treo out the window.

Why DONT you have PE?

What's PE?

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: JS80
wow...if i had push email...i would go nuts and throw my treo out the window.

Treo ? What model. Depending on your service provider you can get good, which while expensive, is pretty useful.

I have the 700p. I seriously get an email every 5 minutes. It's bearable on outlook on a desktop, but if i were out getting emails every 5 min, i would go nuts.


oh..I didn't know that you were glad not to have it:D
 

BAMAVOO

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Oct 9, 1999
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We go direct to the Exchange server with Smartphones. It has proven to be faster than the BES as all the salesmen went to smartphones.
 

iamwiz82

Lifer
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I'm digging BES Express. Works great for us Small Business Admins who couldn't justify spending the bucks before.
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
We go direct to the Exchange server with Smartphones. It has proven to be faster than the BES as all the salesmen went to smartphones.

LOL! What are you on about?
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
We go direct to the Exchange server with Smartphones. It has proven to be faster than the BES as all the salesmen went to smartphones.

LOL! What are you on about?
:confused:
How does a BES do it? Oh yeah, it goes right to Exchange and always has. He's saying it like BB's are behind.

Anyhow, faster than a BES? I often get email on my BB first, before my PC, when sitting in the office on the Corp LAN. :confused: