Pulled the old switchero of changing the thread title

[Judgement]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: Balt
Probably North Korea. Thus, I chose "some asian country"

NK admits that it has nukes and constantly uses them for posturing purposes, but you don't see us invading them.

bah, they won't fuk with us. They are almost right in a way because they have this biggass country called China staring down at them. I think the US just needs to make sure China doesn't fuk with them and they might disarm.

I actually chose John Kerry. I'm sure he's a good man and all, but he is definately not presidential material, and I think if he is elected the US will trip over itself and take a fall.

Bush isn't perfect, just too aggressive for most people. I'm glad he realized his power and did something about Saddam and started shaking our sword at the middle east. We have every right to be over there right now. If those crazy societies would learn to be civil, we wouldn't be as concerned about their rash actions. I don't think this is about oil at all. I think thats just an easy target for those that can handle the idea of war and the harsh reality of necessary, premptive security measures and what it takes to take them.

Flame me if you want, but I've thought about this and this is how I feel. Sorry. If I saw a neighborhood bully was terrorizing local kids and then came to my neighborhood and through a brick through my door because he was jealous, you'd better be sure i would report him to the police. If the police (un) was too scared to deal with the bully and I saw the opportunity to take care of him once and for all, I would take whatever means necessary to do it. Saddam was a big bully. thats all.

:thumbsup:

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Balt
Probably North Korea. Thus, I chose "some asian country"

NK admits that it has nukes and constantly uses them for posturing purposes, but you don't see us invading them.

North Korea's entire military structure is set up for one thing: the reunification of Korea under their flag. Most of their troops are stationed in the southern part of North Korea, they have about four months of ammunition saved up, they have special operations troops ready to go, and their troops are fanatics.

They'll go in, grab the points of communication, and sweep in. If they manage to catch South Korea off guard, they can do it in 4-6 weeks. They can keep the US out with the threat of WMDs (I hate using that term, but it fits here).

They know that America doesn't have the stomach for "Yet another police action", this time involving chemical and biological weapons.

They would have done it had the Warsaw Pact/NATO groups gone to war.

They also know that any counterattack deep enough into North Korea will bring down the wrath of China, just like in the first Korean War.

Barring some catastrophic event, I don't see us ever invading North Korea.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: Balt
Probably North Korea. Thus, I chose "some asian country"

NK admits that it has nukes and constantly uses them for posturing purposes, but you don't see us invading them.

bah, they won't fuk with us. They are almost right in a way because they have this biggass country called China staring down at them. I think the US just needs to make sure China doesn't fuk with them and they might disarm.

I actually chose John Kerry. I'm sure he's a good man and all, but he is definately not presidential material, and I think if he is elected the US will trip over itself and take a fall.

Bush isn't perfect, just too aggressive for most people. I'm glad he realized his power and did something about Saddam and started shaking our sword at the middle east. We have every right to be over there right now. If those crazy societies would learn to be civil, we wouldn't be as concerned about their rash actions. I don't think this is about oil at all. I think thats just an easy target for those that can handle the idea of war and the harsh reality of necessary, premptive security measures and what it takes to take them.

Flame me if you want, but I've thought about this and this is how I feel. Sorry. If I saw a neighborhood bully was terrorizing local kids and then came to my neighborhood and through a brick through my door because he was jealous, you'd better be sure i would report him to the police. If the police (un) was too scared to deal with the bully and I saw the opportunity to take care of him once and for all, I would take whatever means necessary to do it. Saddam was a big bully. thats all.

If you think this has nothing to do with oil, then you do not live on the same planet as I do. I agree, Saddam was a dangerous man (not for the U.S. imo), but saying this had nothing to do with oil is plain ignorant. I am glad most people voted Bush. I hope more people realize this before the election.

 

[gooseman]

neffing

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: gooseman
neffing

lol good one.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: XietyCOM
If you think this has nothing to do with oil, then you do not live on the same planet as I do. I agree, Saddam was a dangerous man (not for the U.S. imo), but saying this had nothing to do with oil is plain ignorant. I am glad most people voted Bush. I hope more people realize this before the election.

I still think that apathy is the biggest threat.

It worries me that most people just don't care. Voter turn out is horrid here. If everyone voted, who knows how different the country would be.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: XietyCOM

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: Balt
Probably North Korea. Thus, I chose "some asian country"

NK admits that it has nukes and constantly uses them for posturing purposes, but you don't see us invading them.

bah, they won't fuk with us. They are almost right in a way because they have this biggass country called China staring down at them. I think the US just needs to make sure China doesn't fuk with them and they might disarm.

I actually chose John Kerry. I'm sure he's a good man and all, but he is definately not presidential material, and I think if he is elected the US will trip over itself and take a fall.

Bush isn't perfect, just too aggressive for most people. I'm glad he realized his power and did something about Saddam and started shaking our sword at the middle east. We have every right to be over there right now. If those crazy societies would learn to be civil, we wouldn't be as concerned about their rash actions. I don't think this is about oil at all. I think thats just an easy target for those that can handle the idea of war and the harsh reality of necessary, premptive security measures and what it takes to take them.

Flame me if you want, but I've thought about this and this is how I feel. Sorry. If I saw a neighborhood bully was terrorizing local kids and then came to my neighborhood and through a brick through my door because he was jealous, you'd better be sure i would report him to the police. If the police (un) was too scared to deal with the bully and I saw the opportunity to take care of him once and for all, I would take whatever means necessary to do it. Saddam was a big bully. thats all.

If you think this has nothing to do with oil, then you do not live on the same planet as I do. I agree, Saddam was a dangerous man (not for the U.S. imo), but saying this had nothing to do with oil is plain ignorant. I am glad most people voted Bush. I hope more people realize this before the election.

Nothing to do with oil, directly. Let's go back to my bully analogy. So after I just beat up the bully and found his hideout in the woods, I find he has a cooler filled with ice cold coke. Hot damn I love a cold coke. (I actually have been drinking them quite a bit lately, alot of work to do, it has caffeine. ) So I invite the local kids that where bullied by the bully back to the hide out to have a coke, and then show them how to setup a neighborhood "coke" operation and make some money. I'm not ignorant. I would gladly pay $3 a gallon or more if it meant just one soldier didn't have to die. This is about so much more than oil. So much more than oil. You'd have to be shortsighted because your pissed about gas prices to think otherwise.

Actually, if people would actually take risks and try to do something with their lives, they might realize what kind of real life survival measures they need to take to keep someone else from ruining their lives or the lives of people they love. The USA is no different in its need for these security measures and policies. If you want to attack us, FUK you, and here comes hell. This is how it has to be. Otherwise, we will keep living in fear. End of story. As I started in business, I sued the first person that remotely screwed me, not because I am lawsuit happy, but because I wanted to know the process and show to myself and others that I would do things to protect myself. Not only did I attack the other party legally, I worked with lawyers to screw with them psychologically. The timing of things, how we said them, when we said them. Kind of like picking a fight not knowing if you will win, but knowing that you will definately learn from it for the next time you are in a fight, and its not one you picked.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: XietyCOM

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: Balt
Probably North Korea. Thus, I chose "some asian country"

NK admits that it has nukes and constantly uses them for posturing purposes, but you don't see us invading them.

bah, they won't fuk with us. They are almost right in a way because they have this biggass country called China staring down at them. I think the US just needs to make sure China doesn't fuk with them and they might disarm.

I actually chose John Kerry. I'm sure he's a good man and all, but he is definately not presidential material, and I think if he is elected the US will trip over itself and take a fall.

Bush isn't perfect, just too aggressive for most people. I'm glad he realized his power and did something about Saddam and started shaking our sword at the middle east. We have every right to be over there right now. If those crazy societies would learn to be civil, we wouldn't be as concerned about their rash actions. I don't think this is about oil at all. I think thats just an easy target for those that can handle the idea of war and the harsh reality of necessary, premptive security measures and what it takes to take them.

Flame me if you want, but I've thought about this and this is how I feel. Sorry. If I saw a neighborhood bully was terrorizing local kids and then came to my neighborhood and through a brick through my door because he was jealous, you'd better be sure i would report him to the police. If the police (un) was too scared to deal with the bully and I saw the opportunity to take care of him once and for all, I would take whatever means necessary to do it. Saddam was a big bully. thats all.

If you think this has nothing to do with oil, then you do not live on the same planet as I do. I agree, Saddam was a dangerous man (not for the U.S. imo), but saying this had nothing to do with oil is plain ignorant. I am glad most people voted Bush. I hope more people realize this before the election.

Nothing to do with oil, directly. Let's go back to my bully analogy. So after I just beat up the bully and found his hideout in the woods, I find he has a cooler filled with ice cold coke. Hot damn I love a cold coke. (I actually have been drinking them quite a bit lately, alot of work to do, it has caffeine. ) So I invite the local kids that where bullied by the bully back to the hide out to have a coke, and then show them how to setup a neighborhood "coke" operation and make some money. I'm not ignorant. I would gladly pay $3 a gallon or more if it meant just one soldier didn't have to die. This is about so much more than oil. So much more than oil. You'd have to be shortsighted because your pissed about gas prices to think otherwise.

Actually, if people would actually take risks and try to do something with their lives, they might realize what kind of real life survival measures they need to take to keep someone else from ruining their lives or the lives of people they love. The USA is no different in its need for these security measures and policies. If you want to attack us, FUK you, and here comes hell. This is how it has to be. Otherwise, we will keep living in fear. End of story. As I started in business, I sued the first person that remotely screwed me, not because I am lawsuit happy, but because I wanted to know the process and show to myself and others that I would do things to protect myself. Not only did I attack the other party legally, I worked with lawyers to screw with them psychologically. The timing of things, how we said them, when we said them. Kind of like picking a fight not knowing if you will win, but knowing that you will definately learn from it for the next time you are in a fight, and its not one you picked.

People like this ^^^^^

 

[TechBoyJK]

and about north korea, think of it this way. You are a midget. There is this 6'10" giant that has two bigass clubs. That is scary to you. The giant has threatened you. So you decide to built this bigass sword that is razor sharp and will cut through the giant with the lightest swing. You get it built and make it a point to let the Giant know you have it. So the Giant cries like a baby, thats not fair, thats not fair, that sword might "cut" me. I only have clubs, they don't cut, whaaaa whaaa. Meanwhile, you are thinking to yourself? It cuts? Giant, you want to kill me. You better believe it cuts and I will stab your ass if you come near me! STAY AWAY!! North Korea is probably thinking to themselves, Thank GOd we have nukes, if we didn't China probably would have took us over like a bitchh just like US did to Iraq.

In my lifetime I have never feared North Korea like I did saddam. I still don't fear them.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: XietyCOM

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: Balt
Probably North Korea. Thus, I chose "some asian country"

NK admits that it has nukes and constantly uses them for posturing purposes, but you don't see us invading them.

bah, they won't fuk with us. They are almost right in a way because they have this biggass country called China staring down at them. I think the US just needs to make sure China doesn't fuk with them and they might disarm.

I actually chose John Kerry. I'm sure he's a good man and all, but he is definately not presidential material, and I think if he is elected the US will trip over itself and take a fall.

Bush isn't perfect, just too aggressive for most people. I'm glad he realized his power and did something about Saddam and started shaking our sword at the middle east. We have every right to be over there right now. If those crazy societies would learn to be civil, we wouldn't be as concerned about their rash actions. I don't think this is about oil at all. I think thats just an easy target for those that can handle the idea of war and the harsh reality of necessary, premptive security measures and what it takes to take them.

Flame me if you want, but I've thought about this and this is how I feel. Sorry. If I saw a neighborhood bully was terrorizing local kids and then came to my neighborhood and through a brick through my door because he was jealous, you'd better be sure i would report him to the police. If the police (un) was too scared to deal with the bully and I saw the opportunity to take care of him once and for all, I would take whatever means necessary to do it. Saddam was a big bully. thats all.

If you think this has nothing to do with oil, then you do not live on the same planet as I do. I agree, Saddam was a dangerous man (not for the U.S. imo), but saying this had nothing to do with oil is plain ignorant. I am glad most people voted Bush. I hope more people realize this before the election.

Let's think about your statement about Saddam not being a threat to the US, but was still a dangerous man. Say you are on a subway, and ten seats down you notice that some guy is raping a girl. He's not hurting you. So, since he is not a threat to you, does this not mean you shouldn't do something about it? So he's raping the girl, viciously. You realize you have a gun. YOU BETTER SHOOT THE MOTHERFLCKER. DEAD. If not, you are a true pussy and deserve to be raped just like the girl.

 

[TechBoyJK]

to me, Bush is the guy who said, gee, we have a gun. Sorry, I'll vote him in for another term. So he can get his policies in place. After his terms, the next pres can work on fixing the policies that didnt work so well (bush isnt perfect) and can run with the ones that did. Some people are so ignorant. Most citizens are like shareholders that don't know what it takes to keep the company alive. So the CEO lost a big contract, should we hang him even though he won 50 more contracts that in sum equal 10x's the lost contract?

 

[TechBoyJK]

just like with Clinton, he did marvels for this country, yet people were to preoccupied by the fact that he got a BJ from an intern.

 

[Zee]

whoa... it looks like this time, bush will win by the popular vote

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
just like with Clinton, he did marvels for this country, yet people were to preoccupied by the fact that he got a BJ from an intern.

Four post in row, it looks like you need to go to bed.

 

[TechBoyJK]

lol, i just went and got my bed time glass of water. about to crash.

 

[zerocool1]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Bush/Cheney/Ashcroft/the Religious Right/ and their goal of subverting American democracy to further their own agendas. Followed by the consolidation of radical Islam with its universal hatred of Western ideals, followed by the proliferation of nuclear technology to the Islamic world.

exactly

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

Bush, because his idiotic adventure in Iraq gave us more Islamic terrorists than Bin Laden could ever have gotten on his own.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: zerocool1

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Bush/Cheney/Ashcroft/the Religious Right/ and their goal of subverting American democracy to further their own agendas. Followed by the consolidation of radical Islam with its universal hatred of Western ideals, followed by the proliferation of nuclear technology to the Islamic world.

exactly

bah, drop the first one. WHY? Because the president only has two terms and the religous right has religious rights. The other two might be around for a while. Hence, I say drop the first one and worry about the other two. Only a logical, smarter strategy.

I'd also like to add that I greatly appreciate this country and its basic freedoms. Yea we have left wing that, right wing this, NAACP here, KKK there. Who cares? Those that care. I don't. But the thing about this place is I can openly worship Jesus today, openly praise Satan tomorrow, then beg ALLAH for forgiveness the next day and not get shoved in a coffen filled with spikes. I think thats cool.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: TheBoyBlunder
Bush, because his idiotic adventure in Iraq gave us more Islamic terrorists than Bin Laden could ever have gotten on his own.

bah, they were already there. Bush just gave them an excuse to act out. Kind of like a bully acting out when you confront him. Duh, thats what will happen with these situations. Don't expect that? Bang your dead.

 

[Insane3D]

No, they weren't "already there". Saddam ran a secular government, and restricted the practice of religion quite a bit. There was no AQ in Iraq before we invaded, but there is plenty now.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
No, they weren't "already there". Saddam ran a secular government, and restricted the practice of religion quite a bit. There was no AQ in Iraq before we invaded, but there is plenty now.

um, things changed after we invaded, and we werent the only ones that invaded. Those radicals were already there, maybe not in Iraq, but in the middle east. They are using Iraq as a chess board because thats where our troops are. Most of the radicals came from out of state. Yea we gave them a reason, but thats like saying we are bad for giving a bully a reason to fight back. I mean, wtf kind of logic is that? Think harder.

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: Insane3D
No, they weren't "already there". Saddam ran a secular government, and restricted the practice of religion quite a bit. There was no AQ in Iraq before we invaded, but there is plenty now.

um, things changed after we invaded, and we werent the only ones that invaded. Those radicals were already there, maybe not in Iraq, but in the middle east. They are using Iraq as a chess board because thats where our troops are. Most of the radicals came from out of state. Yea we gave them a reason, but thats like saying we are bad for giving a bully a reason to fight back. I mean, wtf kind of logic is that? Think harder.

Umm, Isn't the bully the one who attacks first ?

 

[SuperTool]

Since you didn't put an option for out of control deficits, I put the next closest thing, Bush

 

[kalster]

trying to police the entire world without associating with bodies like UN and NATO

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: Insane3D
No, they weren't "already there". Saddam ran a secular government, and restricted the practice of religion quite a bit. There was no AQ in Iraq before we invaded, but there is plenty now.

um, things changed after we invaded, and we werent the only ones that invaded. Those radicals were already there, maybe not in Iraq, but in the middle east. They are using Iraq as a chess board because thats where our troops are. Most of the radicals came from out of state. Yea we gave them a reason, but thats like saying we are bad for giving a bully a reason to fight back. I mean, wtf kind of logic is that? Think harder.

Umm, Isn't the bully the one who attacks first ?

nope. not if you are smart. come on people. why is everyone so reactive instead of proactive?