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moonbogg

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Hello, A420. My name is Moonbogg. I am a biological placeholder for my future self. I look forward to working with you. We can do amazing things together.
 
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Crazy, glad I read this thread, as my doctor was just about to add Abilify to my SSRI.

If you cannot find anything on abilify, try searching for aripiprazole.
I used it for one month then i said that i would not take it any longer. For almost two months(While taking it and afterwards) i slept less than 3 to 4 hours a day while on abilify. But i still had the energy to go to work, and i found my self to be unnatural happy and strong. However, my colleagues said afterwards i looked terrible, like a ghost.
I am not psychotic, but am suffering from autism and that is why i got it described (According to wiki only 8 weeks of data is present for the use with autism related disorders, go figure). I refused to take it any longer and got olanzapine afterwards to be able to sleep. Besides that, my old vices returned while i was on abilify.
I used to take olanzapine before being on abilify to not be so restless during the day and not being able to sleep during the night. Now i am taking it again for a while until i can sleep on my own and feel more relaxed.
 
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crashtech

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The best thing for all of us to do is to seek out an environment which best suits our strengths and weaknesses. To achieve this, or even to be able to seek such a thing, a certain amount of self-sufficiency is required, since this leads to more freedom to move about. In today's world that means the ability to generate income. Obviously my analysis is by necessity superficial, but from the reading of the OP I would guess that a path to greater self-sufficiency starting with gainful employment might be the most constructive first step possible.
 

JEDIYoda

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You are doing good to get off the abilify. That stuff is crap and should be banned from using. It gives you the impression that you feel more energetic and happy and alive but a large group of people cannot sleep or hardly sleep when using abilify and must take sleeping pills to be able to sleep. Now that just can not be the case. It is wearing you out in the long run. In my opinion, taking abilify is just like taking cocaine. Abilify is an anti-psychotic, but it causes sleep disorders and it is common knowledge that a constant lack of sleep can cause psychotic disorders to happen or when you have them, to get worse.

Maybe you are better of with Olanzapine. Ask your doctor for advise. This has also side effects, such as increased hunger. But at low doses it will do the job, decreasing side effects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olanzapine
That is nice that you quote Wikipedia...yet you have no first hand idea what you are talking about....

I have worked with people who have used Abilify for years with great success.....
I also know people who use Abilify but who on occasion depending on how they feel also use Olanzapine......

Not everybody fall under your generalization...
 
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That is nice that you quote Wikipedia...yet you have no first hand idea what you are talking about....

I have worked with people who have used Abilify for years with great success.....
I also know people who use Abilify but who on occasion depending on how they feel also use Olanzapine......

Actually i do. Some people might not have the symptoms after using it for a while but still, the most common side effect of abilify is insomnia.
It is even warned by psychiatrists that this could be a serious side effect and that the patient should notify the psychiatrist about it if it does not go away.
With me it did not.

I might state the same :
Not everybody fall under your generalization...
 
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And i find it strange, that people use abilify and olanzapine at the same time.
Both need a week or two to kick in and switching from one to the other and back is at least by my doctor not recommended. One or the other but not both or constantly switching from one to the other.
 

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If you cannot find anything on abilify, try searching for aripiprazole.
I used it for one month then i said that i would not take it any longer. For almost two months(While taking it and afterwards) i slept less than 3 to 4 hours a day while on abilify. But i still had the energy to go to work, and i found my self to be unnatural happy and strong. However, my colleagues said afterwards i looked terrible, like a ghost.
I am not psychotic, but am suffering from autism and that is why i got it described (According to wiki only 8 weeks of data is present for the use with autism related disorders, go figure). I refused to take it any longer and got olanzapine afterwards to be able to sleep. Besides that, my old vices returned while i was on abilify.
I used to take olanzapine before being on abilify to not be so restless during the day and not being able to sleep during the night. Now i am taking it again for a while until i can sleep on my own and feel more relaxed.

I really hate when this happens. Oh, you got side effects, so that must mean everyone must have the same side effects and the drug should be taken off the market!!
 

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And i find it strange, that people use abilify and olanzapine at the same time.
Both need a week or two to kick in and switching from one to the other and back is at least by my doctor not recommended.

Augmentation is not commonly done, because most psychiatrists would probably switch you to clozapine after you've tried two antipsychotics without success. But as with antibiotics, it works with antipsychotics.
 
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I really hate when this happens. Oh, you got side effects, so that must mean everyone must have the same side effects and the drug should be taken off the market!!

As i mentioned before, it is a common side effect. I am willing to bet that if i would look up abilify or aripiprazole and insomnia i would get a lot of hits.
Now , when you are sitting at home all day, it is fine. But when you have to work and interact a lot with people, it is not fine.
 
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My anger comes mostly that i got it described for autism while there is hardly any data that it works. And for me it did not work. All it did, was make me feel unnaturally energetic and happy while i hardly slept, making cognitive tasks more and more difficult over time.
 

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It's fun; but then it gets old. It's like studying the Constitution (Hamilton was likely an ENFP and Isabel Myers self-identified as INFP)

What have you been diagnosed with? Based on your posts it almost seems like more of a compulsion for you to categorize people by MBTI type than just mere "fun." There seem to be some things you are inordinately concerned with that stick out as strange to me.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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I had depression not otherwise specified until it degressed into major depression. It simply means that you lack the symptoms to be placed into a specific subset. To be honest, I couldn't read your whole post it's a jumbled mess of attempting to use logic without having any solid basis. You need to start with facts and go from there... Using your imagination loosely based on some stuff that may or may not happen and some definablely false things and then building on top of that makes for some rickety messy assertions.
 

Thump553

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You need a friend, someone you can talk to in person and get honest feedback. You're using this forum as a substitute-it's better than nothing but it's a poor substitute.

BTW I've said it before but it should be said again-you should not post financial information of your parents-it's a horrible invasion of their privacy at the least.
 

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Did the doctor tell you that you don't need to be on meds anymore, or did you decide this against the doctors wishes?
 

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What have you been diagnosed with? Based on your posts it almost seems like more of a compulsion for you to categorize people by MBTI type than just mere "fun." There seem to be some things you are inordinately concerned with that stick out as strange to me.
ADHD age 4, Tourette's and OCD concurrently with possible PDD-NOS age 6, Asperger's suggested circa '97 but officially added in Summer '01 (age 13 or 14); Schizoaffective Depression November 2012. But even the doctors who diagnosed me had later doubts about everything. this past june, I went to the psychward for psychotic OCD due to Neurofeedback withdraw; that psychiatrist said my IQ was definitely higher than 75. I know that some food can cause unusual metallic sensory issues which could mean paranoia and delusions. I think the VAX, the meds, and neurofeedback reduced my abilities or stability in terms of sleep patterns, sleep quality (like eye movement) weight, voice, earwax hardness/build up (which made me raise my voice), auditory processing, certain motor coordinations, visual perceptions like color and contrast, etc., etc.

And of course the VAX turned out to be for nothing good to me at their best; at worst, they were the gateway to many of the problems. The abilify is not yet out of my system completely, but I am hoping that I won't have terrible withdraw effects. I should know for more sure over the next few days.

My brain may have shrank or parts expanded (like ventricles) from all the meds, neurofeedback, and later some issues I have experienced. it will require staying off alcohol and all other psychotropic drugs.

Staying away from psychwards, staying away from jails, cop cars, sirens, smoke, people away when I am rambunctious, unusual powerful metallic stuff as well as having a lot of good nutrition like distilled water and ph-increasing lemonade as well as self-care are necessary for repair.

Please remember, John Hinckley experimented with anti-depressants and Tranquilizers while they haven't said either way as to what Jared Loughner took.

Please remember 2: The tourrettes-like and super early onset OCD symptoms likely occured from desoxyn which I took from like 8/93 to the end of 9/93.

I was verbal and angrily raging at age 3 after a terribly constipating vaccination, so my parents put me on stuff at age 4, but I could've gotten better with the correct nutrition. Unfortunately, my dad was a tight wad who hated me when I was younger so he refused to give me the goods. My mom and I contributed to his craziness; he was always very introverted unless seeing a patient at which point his mother would come out of him. At times he looked like the anti-christ, Ganon from Zelda, or like Yosser Arafart.

but then i am basically double screwed (especially when it comes to celtic-neanderthal noric/red haired women; basically the only ones i find attractive) because my mtDNA hg is H (which is common in Modern Europeans) while my Y-DNA is common in Africa, India, or the middle east rather than being the original Celtic R1b; it's not even the Nordic Y-DNA hg I.
Augmentation is not commonly done, because most psychiatrists would probably switch you to clozapine after you've tried two antipsychotics without success. But as with antibiotics, it works with antipsychotics.
I refused a demand-ish suggestion (from a former psychiatrist) to take clozapine before I even checked Wikipedia about it... and I am damn glad that I did refuse the offer. One good thing about clozapine is that it isn't injectable (at least not that i know of) so doctors can't hook anyone on it with a court order.

Generally, whenever I started a new anti-psychotic i wound up getting even angrier; the dosage then got increased to the point it put me to sleep.
You need a friend, someone you can talk to in person and get honest feedback. You're using this forum as a substitute-it's better than nothing but it's a poor substitute.
I use a lot of things. I have also had a cough/cold for a long time now.
BTW I've said it before but it should be said again-you should not post financial information of your parents-it's a horrible invasion of their privacy at the least.
They know about it and they try to ignore it. I am hoping a friend or few (even Obama or Newt) will help my parents and myself out given how old order many individuals surely think my parents financial habits are.

I want a 4k to 5k square foot Sun Realty rental home in OBX (Sun Realty is the very best as they're purely democratically run and my own parents had the best experiences with them; they're good for everyone especially those without a consistently sharp eye) property with at least one primary residence and some cash on hand / in a bank (and certainly not more than the FDIC "guarantees") and to be 100% free of mortgage debt.

I really need to fully own an ultra popular Sun Realty home in OBX as well as a primary residence with copper electrical wiring (all electrical wiring must be >=.9999 o2-free 12 gauge copper).
 

halik

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^^ Copy this paragraph into a craigslist personal and you should be good to go.

You're going direct to hell :D

Since your cognitive processes are impaired, you should
a) defer to professionals for your mental health
b) most certainly not make any financial decision or input; for yourself and especially for others. If my calculator is broken, I'm not gonna use it do my taxes.
 
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AyashiKaibutsu

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And of course the VAX turned out to be for nothing good to me at their best; at worst, they were the gateway to many of the problems. The abilify is not yet out of my system completely, but I am hoping that I won't have terrible withdraw effects. I should know for more sure over the next few days.

I hope you're following the weening instructions for the meds or even if you're deciding to stop them yourself you're being smart and weening yourself off. I know from experience that the effects of stuff like that is nasty if you don't titrate down.
 

crashtech

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There isn't any one of us who doesn't have a distorted view of reality. Most of us learn at a young age to connect our unique perception of reality with what is called "society." Others aren't as lucky, only accomplishing this linkage partially or not at all.
 

Mxylplyx

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I think you would be much happier if you just put down the internet for a while so you could stop attempting to diagnose yourself with whatever random literature you run across. Your obsession with things like haleotypes, politics, nutrition, your parents finances, etc is all over the place and incoherent. You seem to consume too much information on the internet and your mind just runs wild with it. Take a break from it and see where it leads you.