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Psychology is bull

mammador

mammador

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psychologists say that to make friends, one has to be "nice" and "kind".

why is then this doesn't apply in younger people, and psychologists don't seem to acknowledge this?
 
You don't have to be nice and kind 100% of the time. People even young ones are usually nice to their friends even if they're dicks to everyone else and sometimes to even their friends.

It'd be nice if you sighted your source for this information too.
 
You can't be a complainer and just dump your problems on other people because they have their own problems.

Instead what you do is just be a nice distraction to each other from said problems. Its a fundamental principle. When you build up a group of friends eventually friend X would be good at solving problem Y and ENJOY being able to help you.

But no you can't just walk up to people and complain and make friends :awe:

They just mean not being an asshole, which apparently some people haven't learned how to do.
 
AyashiKaibutsu said:
You don't have to be nice and kind 100% of the time. People even young ones are usually nice to their friends even if they're dicks to everyone else and sometimes to even their friends.

It'd be nice if you sighted your source for this information too.
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no, i'm simply saying that psychology is bunk, since they ironically don't get how people behave.
 
They said be nice...not creepy nice...

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OverVolt said:
You can't be a complainer and just dump your problems on other people because they have their own problems.

Instead what you do is just be a nice distraction to each other from said problems. Its a fundamental principle. When you build up a group of friends eventually friend X would be good at solving problem Y and ENJOY being able to help you.

But no you can't just walk up to people and complain and make friends :awe:

They just mean not being an asshole, which apparently some people haven't learned how to do.
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So do you act in all ways that psychology says is good?
 
I agree, but probably not for the reasons you do. It's a soft science that I think people put too much faith in. It plays a statistical game where outliers are perfectly fine, but they're considered broken since they don't fit in the given definitions(current trends).
 
lxskllr said:
I agree, but probably not for the reasons you do. It's a soft science that I think people put too much faith in. It plays a statistical game where outliers are perfectly fine, but they're considered broken since they don't fit in the given definitions(current trends).
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Sounds to me like you are being a little unfair to Psych. Every branch of science makes its mistakes and has its follies.
 
LumbergTech said:
Sounds to me like you are being a little unfair to Psych. Every branch of science makes its mistakes and has its follies.
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All learning is noble, but psych should be treated more as art than science. I think people tend to give it more weight than it deserves.
 
Psychologists might say one needs to be nice and kind to make friends, but psychology certainly doesn't say that.
Psychology is not just some soft science as many purports. Long gone are the days of Freud and explaining away people's problems based on them being stuck as a baby learning to poop. Psychology today is data driven like any other science. However, many of the interpretations of the data may be bull. But that's inherent in science, and is true for any other science.
 
astroidea said:
Psychologists might say one needs to be nice and kind to make friends, but psychology certainly doesn't say that.
Psychology is not just some soft science as many purports. Long gone are the days of Freud and explaining away people's problems based on them being stuck as a baby learning to poop. Psychology today is data driven like any other science. However, many of the interpretations of the data may be bull. But that's inherent in science, and is true for any other science.
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I look at psychology in somewhat the same light as quantum physics. Pretty solid, accurate science when dealing with large numbers of events (e.g. people) at a high level, but really not much help in predicting the outcome of a single event (e.g. an individual) in great detail.

In other words, don't expect sudden improvements in your social life just because you finished psyc 101. 😀

More seriously, this is why we can't really expect to control gun violence through greater emphasis on mental health screenings and treatments.

My two cents...
 
mammador said:
no, i'm simply saying that psychology is bunk, since they ironically don't get how people behave.
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As far as I can tell, everything you've posted in this thread is bunk. Which psychologists say the only way to get friends is to be nice? From quick searches, I can't find ANYONE who says that.
 
PowerEngineer said:
I look at psychology in somewhat the same light as quantum physics. Pretty solid, accurate science when dealing with large numbers of events (e.g. people) at a high level, but really not much help in predicting the outcome of a single event (e.g. an individual) in great detail.

In other words, don't expect sudden improvements in your social life just because you finished psyc 101. 😀

More seriously, this is why we can't really expect to control gun violence through greater emphasis on mental health screenings and treatments.

My two cents...
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/this.

it always seem's its the kid that just finished (or is taking) psych 101, econ 101 etc. that have these wild and stupid ideas.
 
mammador said:
psychologists say that to make friends, one has to be "nice" and "kind".

why is then this doesn't apply in younger people, and psychologists don't seem to acknowledge this?
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That isn't even a strictly psychological statement, you fucking idiot.
 
I think psychology is bull.

What have they really got, meds, which is pharmacy/chemistry anyway, and talk therapy, which is basically for people who have no one to talk to. So no shit that works.

Now psychology REALLY cuts into the realm of sociology, which... like was mentioned before can actually be quantified on a population, you can learn things, etc. Its not psychology.
 
Psychology and psychiatry are different things...

And only some psychology is bullshit. Ironically, most of the largest contributors of truly genius stuff also threw in a lot of batshit crazy retarded garbage (see: Freud).

Unfortunately, many people have no idea what psychology actually is, because modern practitioners like to 'prescribe' things like dumbshit self-help books written by egotistical mental invalids. Nothing worse than a smug retard.
 
Psychology is an extremely interesting subject for me personally. The more I learn about it, the more I'm able to understand why people act the way they do. After a while you can start to see patterns / trends, for example someone's parents can pass on clear behavior patterns to their kids, and the kids can struggle against those patterns their entire lives.

Really our brains work in mysterious ways, even to ourselves, because the conscious thinking part of the brain can understand how something works, but then be nearly powerless to change it if they don't have the willpower (look at smoking, or any heavy habit that needs reform, for example losing weight). The brain knows they need to quit smoking, but they do it anyways out of habit. Or the brain knows their behavior is wrong, but they do it anyway because they saw their parents act that way when they were kids.

The main problem with psychology is that it's an art in it's infancy; it hasn't had a thousand years+ to develop, as math has had, or other forms of science.
 
There are two "Science" classes which spend an inordinate amount of time trying to explain and defend the "fact" that they are "Sciences", and Psychology is one of them. That says nothing?
 
SphinxnihpS said:
There are two "Science" classes which spend an inordinate amount of time trying to explain and defend the "fact" that they are "Sciences", and Psychology is one of them. That says nothing?
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It takes time to mature, and it's new; that's all it boils down to.

I wouldn't expect the field to mature for at least another few hundred years, at the bare minimum.
 
Juddog said:
It takes time to mature, and it's new; that's all it boils down to.

I wouldn't expect the field to mature for at least another few hundred years, at the bare minimum.
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This makes your expectations simultaneously very high and very low. Interesting.
 
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