PSA: Yield Signs != Stop Signs

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Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
You're kind of supposed to treat the right turn on red idea like a yield sign, where if you'll obstruct traffic, you don't go. The way it sounds, you dislike people who abuse right turn on red :p.
Wrong. You are legally bound to come to a complete stop before making a right turn on red. Read your driver's handbook. Sheesh, with as many times as you try to offer advice on cars or driving I'm amazed that you still haven't gotten something right just by pure chance.

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randay

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: TheChort
As much as the dmv likes to stress over-cautiousness, often times they over do it.
This is one of those examples. People come to a complete stop at these things thinking it's the right thing to do, but if someone is coming up from behind who is following the actual rules, a rear-ending is bound to happen.

If that person seriously collides with someone that has stopped at a yield sign, then that person is not following the actual rules.

When traffic is clear, why should anyone be stopped at a Yield Sign? To tie their shoes?

maybe thier car ran out of gas, maybe they are having a heart attack. maybe there is traffic and they are yielding.
 

Raduque

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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Mill

When traffic is clear, why should anyone be stopped at a Yield Sign? To tie their shoes?

maybe thier car ran out of gas, maybe they are having a heart attack. maybe there is traffic and they are yielding.

read bolded.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Mill
When traffic is clear, why should anyone be stopped at a Yield Sign? To tie their shoes?
maybe thier car ran out of gas, maybe they are having a heart attack. maybe there is traffic and they are yielding.
Yeah, all that traffic that happens when there's no traffic...

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randay

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Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Mill

When traffic is clear, why should anyone be stopped at a Yield Sign? To tie their shoes?

maybe thier car ran out of gas, maybe they are having a heart attack. maybe there is traffic and they are yielding.

read bolded.

and you can tell that from way back there? what? they dont make yield signs in the city?
 

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Aikouka
I hate people who stop at red lights when they're going to turn right and there's no traffic anyway. Just do a right turn on red!

In my state, at least, you are required to stop first at a red light and then you may turn right on red.
Agreed. Everywhere I've ever driven that permits right turn on red treats the red light as a stop sign. You must come to a complete stop, and then if it is safe, you can proceed with your right turn.

 

talyn00

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Originally posted by: NiteWulf
Originally posted by: JS80
in traffic school they said yield = stop
Your traffic school sucks.

Also, what did they say about yellow yield signs?

i was taught that, you should be prepared to stop at a yield sign
 

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I'll add that green light means protected right turn. However, do watch for pedestrians/left turners running the light or not knowing you have the right of way. And I will also add that if you are at a stop sign and I am turning left or U-turning from the major thoroughfare (i.e. no stop sign), then don't come across and claim my median. No I can't see through your gigantic SUV. And if you're turning left, stop AT the stop line. Right turners can't see the traffic if you're in there way.
 

randay

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Mill
When traffic is clear, why should anyone be stopped at a Yield Sign? To tie their shoes?
maybe thier car ran out of gas, maybe they are having a heart attack. maybe there is traffic and they are yielding.
Yeah, all that traffic that happens when there's no traffic...

ZV

There are crappy drivers out tehre who cant read traffic for sh!t, old people, women, asian people, teenagers, and lets not forget the 'insert_additional_stereotype_here's...

I dont come to a complete stop at yield signs, but I do usually slow down a lot even if theres no traffic that I can see.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: talyn00
Originally posted by: NiteWulf
Originally posted by: JS80
in traffic school they said yield = stop
Your traffic school sucks.

Also, what did they say about yellow yield signs?
i was taught that, you should be prepared to stop at a yield sign
"Prepared to stop" != "Stop".

When driving down the highway normally you should always be prepared to take evasive action in case of an accident in front of you. That doesn't mean you should aways be taking evasive action.

Similarly, when approaching a yield sign, you should be prepared to stop in case of oncoming traffic, but that doesn't mean that you should always stop.

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Sukhoi

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Agreed with the OP 100%. I have to deal with multiple yield signs on my commute and god damn there are some bad/stupid drivers.
 

talyn00

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: talyn00
Originally posted by: NiteWulf
Originally posted by: JS80
in traffic school they said yield = stop
Your traffic school sucks.

Also, what did they say about yellow yield signs?
i was taught that, you should be prepared to stop at a yield sign
"Prepared to stop" != "Stop".

When driving down the highway normally you should always be prepared to take evasive action in case of an accident in front of you. That doesn't mean you should always be taking evasive action.

Similarly, when approaching a yield sign, you should be prepared to stop in case of oncoming traffic, but that doesn't mean that you should always stop.

ZV

I never said anything about always stopping at a yield, I just simply stated what is in most driver's manuals.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: randay
There are crappy drivers out tehre who cant read traffic for sh!t, old people, women, asian people, teenagers, and lets not forget the 'insert_additional_stereotype_here's...

I dont come to a complete stop at yield signs, but I do usually slow down a lot even if theres no traffic that I can see.
If you cannot read traffic well enough that you need to slow down for a yield sign that has clear sight-lines, you should not be driving. Period. No exceptions.

The problem is that here in the US driver's licenses are handed out like prizes from a crackerjack box. At least a third of all US drivers have no business whatsoever behind the wheel of an automobile and we really need much more rigorous testing to weed them out. Driver licensing should be much more like competition licensing where you are required to have a full physical in addition to demonstrating car control on a closed track.

ZV
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: talyn00
I never said anything about always stopping at a yield, I just simply stated what is in most driver's manuals.
Your post was easily interpreted as disagreeing with the post you quoted. I was simply clarifying. Deal with it.

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randay

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: randay
There are crappy drivers out tehre who cant read traffic for sh!t, old people, women, asian people, teenagers, and lets not forget the 'insert_additional_stereotype_here's...

I dont come to a complete stop at yield signs, but I do usually slow down a lot even if theres no traffic that I can see.
If you cannot read traffic well enough that you need to slow down for a yield sign that has clear sight-lines, you should not be driving. Period. No exceptions.

The problem is that here in the US driver's licenses are handed out like prizes from a crackerjack box. At least a third of all US drivers have no business whatsoever behind the wheel of an automobile and we really need much more rigorous testing to weed them out. Driver licensing should be much more like competition licensing where you are required to have a full physical in addition to demonstrating car control on a closed track.

ZV

So are you saying that if there is no traffic in sight that you do not have to slow down whatsoever at a yield sign?

edit: can you clarify "a yield sign that has clear sight-lines" please?
 

DVK916

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
I hate people who stop at red lights when they're going to turn right and there's no traffic anyway. Just do a right turn on red!

They stop because it is the LAW. It is almost a $400 ticket here if you fail to stop.
 

TheChort

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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: randay
There are crappy drivers out tehre who cant read traffic for sh!t, old people, women, asian people, teenagers, and lets not forget the 'insert_additional_stereotype_here's...

I dont come to a complete stop at yield signs, but I do usually slow down a lot even if theres no traffic that I can see.
If you cannot read traffic well enough that you need to slow down for a yield sign that has clear sight-lines, you should not be driving. Period. No exceptions.

The problem is that here in the US driver's licenses are handed out like prizes from a crackerjack box. At least a third of all US drivers have no business whatsoever behind the wheel of an automobile and we really need much more rigorous testing to weed them out. Driver licensing should be much more like competition licensing where you are required to have a full physical in addition to demonstrating car control on a closed track.

ZV

So are you saying that if there is no traffic in sight that you do not have to slow down whatsoever at a yield sign?

edit: can you clarify "a yield sign that has clear sight-lines" please?

exactly
that's the whole point of "be prepared to stop"
I interpret "clear sight lines" as uninterrupted vision of cross traffic for about 500ft in both directions
 

DVK916

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: spidey07
I hate peopel who run red lights and don't come to a complete stop before turning.

You're not running a red light if you're making a legal right turn :roll:. Also, how would you even be affected if there's no traffic? You're kind of supposed to treat the right turn on red idea like a yield sign, where if you'll obstruct traffic, you don't go. The way it sounds, you dislike people who abuse right turn on red :p.

Not in most states, most states you treat it like a stop sign, stop first then go.
 

randay

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Originally posted by: TheChort
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: randay
There are crappy drivers out tehre who cant read traffic for sh!t, old people, women, asian people, teenagers, and lets not forget the 'insert_additional_stereotype_here's...

I dont come to a complete stop at yield signs, but I do usually slow down a lot even if theres no traffic that I can see.
If you cannot read traffic well enough that you need to slow down for a yield sign that has clear sight-lines, you should not be driving. Period. No exceptions.

The problem is that here in the US driver's licenses are handed out like prizes from a crackerjack box. At least a third of all US drivers have no business whatsoever behind the wheel of an automobile and we really need much more rigorous testing to weed them out. Driver licensing should be much more like competition licensing where you are required to have a full physical in addition to demonstrating car control on a closed track.

ZV

So are you saying that if there is no traffic in sight that you do not have to slow down whatsoever at a yield sign?

edit: can you clarify "a yield sign that has clear sight-lines" please?

exactly
that's the whole point of "be prepared to stop"
I interpret "clear sight lines" as uninterrupted vision of cross traffic for about 500ft in both directions

Do such signs even exist? lol. I've never seen one but maybe its because I live in Hawaii. Here, yield signs are placed for a reason. Like obstructed views and/or merging into faster lanes.
 

randay

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I hate people who use thier brakes. anywhere outside of a parking lot or garage.