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PSA: There is no point in creeping slowly into the intersection at a red light

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spidey07

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Originally posted by: CountZero
Originally posted by: spidey07
Maybe they're doing the proper thing and trying to make sure the intersection is clear before crossing? Many times there are obstacles in your field of view and by moving slowly you can make sure the intersection is clear before proceeding and free of people running redlights.

I can't imagine a case where creeping past the line during a red light is the right thing to do unless you are making a legal right turn on a red light.

The creepers only bother me when I'm making a right hand turn and they block my view.

Oh, I absolutely hate that! That is the ultimate in rude.

 

Jack Ryan

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Jun 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Nyati13
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: Nyati13

That's when you need to flash your lights at it...... :D

And most people doing the creepy car bit aren't doing it on purpose, they're just too stupid to keep their foot firmly on the brake while they are stopped (and of course are driving an automatic, since they are also too stupid to know how to shift their own gears).
Ahh, another stick shift snob.

Do you use a typewriter too? Do you manually make your coffee each morning? Do you manually pay your bills? Do you manually make fire and cook all of your food (that you grow in your yard)?

Grow up.

Ha!. The discussion is stop light creepers, which is 99% the result of people who don't know how to drive not keeping their foot firmly on the brake, which in an automatic results in the car inching forward. (That's a simple function of the properties of an automatic transmission, in case you aren't aware :D ) Stupid people in manuals at stop lights don't exhibite the same creeping, because manuals behave differently.

Someone does need to grow up here.... and also needs to learn how to follow a discussion.

Unfortunately you cannot follow your own advice. I even bolded what I was responding to in an effort to make it easy for you. While you are being stupid at a light in your elite manual transmission vehicle, you are either rolling forward or backwards (gravity in case you aren't aware). Stupidity has no bounds as you are clearly showing here.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: Jack Ryan

Unfortunately you cannot follow your own advice. I even bolded what I was responding to in an effort to make it easy for you. While you are being stupid at a light in your elite manual transmission vehicle, you are either rolling forward or backwards (gravity in case you aren't aware). Stupidity has no bounds as you are clearly showing here.

What you say? You absolutely do not.
 

Jack Ryan

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Jun 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan

Unfortunately you cannot follow your own advice. I even bolded what I was responding to in an effort to make it easy for you. While you are being stupid at a light in your elite manual transmission vehicle, you are either rolling forward or backwards (gravity in case you aren't aware). Stupidity has no bounds as you are clearly showing here.

What you say? You absolutely do not.

Sorry, I live in an area where the land is not perfectly flat.
 

AstroManLuca

Lifer
Jun 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan

Unfortunately you cannot follow your own advice. I even bolded what I was responding to in an effort to make it easy for you. While you are being stupid at a light in your elite manual transmission vehicle, you are either rolling forward or backwards (gravity in case you aren't aware). Stupidity has no bounds as you are clearly showing here.

What you say? You absolutely do not.

Sorry, I live in an area where the land is not perfectly flat.

Your car doesn't have brakes? That's dangerous.
 

Syringer

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: Steve
I love being next to people who do this. Sometimes what I'll do is inch forward, so in response they do so even further, and I just keep egging them forward until they look ridiculous. The best part is that once it goes green I just floor it and fly out ahead of them. Dumbasses.

Wow you can go faster than other cars, you're soooo cool!
 

Steve

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: Steve
I love being next to people who do this. Sometimes what I'll do is inch forward, so in response they do so even further, and I just keep egging them forward until they look ridiculous. The best part is that once it goes green I just floor it and fly out ahead of them. Dumbasses.

Wow you can go faster than other cars, you're soooo cool!

Goddamn right.
 

Jack Ryan

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Jun 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan

Unfortunately you cannot follow your own advice. I even bolded what I was responding to in an effort to make it easy for you. While you are being stupid at a light in your elite manual transmission vehicle, you are either rolling forward or backwards (gravity in case you aren't aware). Stupidity has no bounds as you are clearly showing here.

What you say? You absolutely do not.

Sorry, I live in an area where the land is not perfectly flat.

Your car doesn't have brakes? That's dangerous.

Geeze, this will be my last comment on this because you people make my head hurt while trying to dumb myself down to your level. Read the fucking chain a few posts above.

 

Fayd

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Jun 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: amdhunter
The jackass behind me that blows his horn within 1 second of the green light is the reason why I creep.

on some intersections, 2 seconds is all you get. so i can see someone being pissed.
 

Syringer

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan

Unfortunately you cannot follow your own advice. I even bolded what I was responding to in an effort to make it easy for you. While you are being stupid at a light in your elite manual transmission vehicle, you are either rolling forward or backwards (gravity in case you aren't aware). Stupidity has no bounds as you are clearly showing here.

What you say? You absolutely do not.

Sorry, I live in an area where the land is not perfectly flat.

Your car doesn't have brakes? That's dangerous.

Geeze, this will be my last comment on this because you people make my head hurt while trying to dumb myself down to your level. Read the fucking chain a few posts above.

That's what the handbrake is for.
 

Fayd

Diamond Member
Jun 28, 2001
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www.manwhoring.com
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan

Unfortunately you cannot follow your own advice. I even bolded what I was responding to in an effort to make it easy for you. While you are being stupid at a light in your elite manual transmission vehicle, you are either rolling forward or backwards (gravity in case you aren't aware). Stupidity has no bounds as you are clearly showing here.

What you say? You absolutely do not.

Sorry, I live in an area where the land is not perfectly flat.

Your car doesn't have brakes? That's dangerous.

people with manual transmissions will occasionally use the engine to hold their car in relatively the same position, easing on and off the clutch within a few feet. it's to stave off boredom.
 

BlackTigers

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2006
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When I drive my 5spd, I always slow down for redlights ahead, trying to not fully stop my car. It's become a habit.
 

ric1287

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Nov 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: Nyati13
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: Nyati13

That's when you need to flash your lights at it...... :D

And most people doing the creepy car bit aren't doing it on purpose, they're just too stupid to keep their foot firmly on the brake while they are stopped (and of course are driving an automatic, since they are also too stupid to know how to shift their own gears).
Ahh, another stick shift snob.

Do you use a typewriter too? Do you manually make your coffee each morning? Do you manually pay your bills? Do you manually make fire and cook all of your food (that you grow in your yard)?

Grow up.

Ha!. The discussion is stop light creepers, which is 99% the result of people who don't know how to drive not keeping their foot firmly on the brake, which in an automatic results in the car inching forward. (That's a simple function of the properties of an automatic transmission, in case you aren't aware :D ) Stupid people in manuals at stop lights don't exhibite the same creeping, because manuals behave differently.

Someone does need to grow up here.... and also needs to learn how to follow a discussion.

Yeah, instead of inching forward, stick dicks have to sit there for 30 seconds rocking back and forth while they figure out how to get their car moving forward again.
 

AstroManLuca

Lifer
Jun 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan

Unfortunately you cannot follow your own advice. I even bolded what I was responding to in an effort to make it easy for you. While you are being stupid at a light in your elite manual transmission vehicle, you are either rolling forward or backwards (gravity in case you aren't aware). Stupidity has no bounds as you are clearly showing here.

What you say? You absolutely do not.

Sorry, I live in an area where the land is not perfectly flat.

Your car doesn't have brakes? That's dangerous.

people with manual transmissions will occasionally use the engine to hold their car in relatively the same position, easing on and off the clutch within a few feet. it's to stave off boredom.

I've seen a few people do this. It's idiotic. I have no clue why anyone who drives a manual wouldn't just use their brakes or at least their handbrake.

When I'm on a slope, I often use my handbrake instead of my brake pedal when I'm starting so I get a smoother transition to movement and don't slide back.
 

Saint Nick

Lifer
Jan 21, 2005
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I don't understand what it is to cause people to get so angry when people drive.

What the hell is the problem here people. We walk and talk with each other on a day to day basis with little problems, but for some reason, the moment we get into a vehicle, anger sets in and you just curse, make gestures, and exhibit actions that are to be expected of a seven year old.

I just sit in traffic and go home. If someone cuts me off, whatever, they can get in. They have to get in somehow, why not in front of me? If someone is tailgating the crap out of me, well okay, that is a little scary, especially if I have to stop suddenly, but they can do that all they want.

Especially for creeping slowly into the intersection? How many pet peeves do you people have? Why do you care so much about what other people are doing AT ALL? It isn't affecting your day, how you are going to get somewhere, what is going to happen when you get home...it affects NOTHING IN YOUR LIFE.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: CountZero
Originally posted by: spidey07
Maybe they're doing the proper thing and trying to make sure the intersection is clear before crossing? Many times there are obstacles in your field of view and by moving slowly you can make sure the intersection is clear before proceeding and free of people running redlights.
I can't imagine a case where creeping past the line during a red light is the right thing to do unless you are making a legal right turn on a red light.

The creepers only bother me when I'm making a right hand turn and they block my view.
Oh, I absolutely hate that! That is the ultimate in rude.
My number 1 pet peeve on the road.

Its like "Dude! I'm trying to make a fucking right! You arent going anywhere!

 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan

Unfortunately you cannot follow your own advice. I even bolded what I was responding to in an effort to make it easy for you. While you are being stupid at a light in your elite manual transmission vehicle, you are either rolling forward or backwards (gravity in case you aren't aware). Stupidity has no bounds as you are clearly showing here.

What you say? You absolutely do not.

Sorry, I live in an area where the land is not perfectly flat.

Your car doesn't have brakes? That's dangerous.

people with manual transmissions will occasionally use the engine to hold their car in relatively the same position, easing on and off the clutch within a few feet. it's to stave off boredom.

I've seen a few people do this. It's idiotic. I have no clue why anyone who drives a manual wouldn't just use their brakes or at least their handbrake.

When I'm on a slope, I often use my handbrake instead of my brake pedal when I'm starting so I get a smoother transition to movement and don't slide back.

Handbrake on a hill??? I think you need to learn to drive manual better.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: shortylickens
My number 1 pet peeve on the road.

Its like "Dude! I'm trying to make a fucking right! You arent going anywhere!

I never cross the line at the light. It's there for a reason - you're not supposed to go past it. Not just for you, but for other drivers as well. If only people would remember there are other people in this world besides themselves we'd have puppies and chocolate rainbows everywhere.
 

nerp

Diamond Member
Dec 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan

Unfortunately you cannot follow your own advice. I even bolded what I was responding to in an effort to make it easy for you. While you are being stupid at a light in your elite manual transmission vehicle, you are either rolling forward or backwards (gravity in case you aren't aware). Stupidity has no bounds as you are clearly showing here.

What you say? You absolutely do not.

Sorry, I live in an area where the land is not perfectly flat.

Your car doesn't have brakes? That's dangerous.

people with manual transmissions will occasionally use the engine to hold their car in relatively the same position, easing on and off the clutch within a few feet. it's to stave off boredom.

Yep. And I like to leave room between myself and the car in front of me because I don't want the noxious fumes from someone's inspection-failing Ford F350 going into my intake. Many owners manuals recommend this as well.

Call me elite for having MT. I'm fine with that. Because I am. When you're riding your breaks on a decline, I'm enjoying DFCO and burning absolutley no gas while not using any brakes and slowing down to boot. :)

 

natto fire

Diamond Member
Jan 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: Tiamat
Yeah, the problem is when they creep forward and don't pay attention for pedestrians legally crossing the street in the crosswalk. I've been tapped by the bumper of a creeping car as I was crossing the crosswalk with 10 seconds left to cross. Driver didn't even apologize, just glared at me as I completed my crossing of the street :roll:

Exactly. I have not had this happen to me, but I have gotten similar glares when I get close to the douchebags in the intersection (on their red) when I am the recipient of the green arrow the OP was talking about it. I wouldn't have to get so close to them if they were using the intersection properly, but I get glared at...

To the people that don't have a problem with this, not everyone drives automatics, so the creeping around stuff is just lame.
 

AstroManLuca

Lifer
Jun 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan

Unfortunately you cannot follow your own advice. I even bolded what I was responding to in an effort to make it easy for you. While you are being stupid at a light in your elite manual transmission vehicle, you are either rolling forward or backwards (gravity in case you aren't aware). Stupidity has no bounds as you are clearly showing here.

What you say? You absolutely do not.

Sorry, I live in an area where the land is not perfectly flat.

Your car doesn't have brakes? That's dangerous.

people with manual transmissions will occasionally use the engine to hold their car in relatively the same position, easing on and off the clutch within a few feet. it's to stave off boredom.

I've seen a few people do this. It's idiotic. I have no clue why anyone who drives a manual wouldn't just use their brakes or at least their handbrake.

When I'm on a slope, I often use my handbrake instead of my brake pedal when I'm starting so I get a smoother transition to movement and don't slide back.

Handbrake on a hill??? I think you need to learn to drive manual better.

You've never done this? I don't use the handbrake to stop, just to make starting when going up a steep hill easier. A lot of people do it and as far as I know there's nothing wrong with it.

Now if you'd rather berate me for using a driving technique that you're not familiar with, that's fine, but I think it would be more fair and civilized if you were to point me in the direction of a link demonstrating why I shouldn't be doing this. I did some Google searches and The Internet seems split on it.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
You've never done this? I don't use the handbrake to stop, just to make starting when going up a steep hill easier. A lot of people do it and as far as I know there's nothing wrong with it.

Now if you'd rather berate me for using a driving technique that you're not familiar with, that's fine, but I think it would be more fair and civilized if you were to point me in the direction of a link demonstrating why I shouldn't be doing this. I did some Google searches and The Internet seems split on it.

It's fine in my book, FWIW.
 

johnjohn320

Diamond Member
Jan 9, 2001
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To all you guys saying "It's to trip the sensor": Dude, the sensor isn't halfway out into the intersection. Blowing past the light isn't required to make it turn green.:roll:
 

johnjohn320

Diamond Member
Jan 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: NightDarker
I don't understand what it is to cause people to get so angry when people drive.

What the hell is the problem here people. We walk and talk with each other on a day to day basis with little problems, but for some reason, the moment we get into a vehicle, anger sets in and you just curse, make gestures, and exhibit actions that are to be expected of a seven year old.

I just sit in traffic and go home. If someone cuts me off, whatever, they can get in. They have to get in somehow, why not in front of me? If someone is tailgating the crap out of me, well okay, that is a little scary, especially if I have to stop suddenly, but they can do that all they want.

Especially for creeping slowly into the intersection? How many pet peeves do you people have? Why do you care so much about what other people are doing AT ALL? It isn't affecting your day, how you are going to get somewhere, what is going to happen when you get home...it affects NOTHING IN YOUR LIFE.

Sorry, just my attempt at starting a conversation (and it worked). I'm glad you're so easy-going with everything that you don't care about anything that doesn't directly affect you. I, on the other hand, occassionally converse about things that don't affect me. The other day a buddy told me about his coworker getting a divorce, and what a shame it was. Should I have retorted with "geez, why do you care!? It doesn't affect your life in any way, and mine neither, so stop talking about it!!"

Not sure what your other 9,600 posts were about, but clearly they've all been about things that 100% directly change the course of your day. Somtimes "shooting the breeze" can be entertaining. Give it a shot sometime.