I don't think anyone was referring to you specifically.
It's a combination of food and lifestyle.
If you're not going be active, eat less. If you are active, you're allowed more leeway in what you can eat.
However since 90% of Americans walk maybe 2.5 steps a day and drive the rest, they indeed should put down a few burgers.
Amused
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The reason diets fail is because your appetite is set, and will drive you crazy.
Activity and food type moderation/balance is the key, NOT calorie restriction.
In fact, it is my firm belief that calorie restrictive diets (fad) are partly responsible for the weight problem we have today. They cause yo-yo weight gain and one thing remains constant: people who yo-yo diet end up FATTER than had they never dieted at all.
Your body has built in starvation safe guards. Calorie restrictive diets make those kick in and each time your fat set point and appetite set point is raised in anticipation of the next starvation cycle.
purbeast0
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Amused is right. It's not just the food, its the activity levels. Most Americans sit on their asses all day from 9-5 and eat 3 meals a day, doing no activities.
I workout about 4 times a week and I eat probably 4-6 McDonalds double cheeseburgers a week, 4-6 hotpockets a week, and taco bell once a week. And thats lunch only.
But since I exercise I don't get fat.
I workout about 4 times a week and I eat probably 4-6 McDonalds double cheeseburgers a week, 4-6 hotpockets a week, and taco bell once a week. And thats lunch only.
But since I exercise I don't get fat.
Anubis
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purbeast0
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According to my doc I'm as healthy as can be. But I forgot, ATOT knows more about me than myself or my doctor
I guess I shouldn't have said that many double cheeseburgers. I probably eat only 2/week if I even go there.
But this thread was bout being overweight, not having heart attacks
Amused
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Why is it that simplistic ignorance rules the day when it comes to health?
Why is it people believe "one size fits all" applies to medical advice?
If he is not genetically prone to heart disease, he does not have to avoid fats as the person who is genetically prone to heart disease does.
And as the latest research shows, diet does very little in controlling bad cholesterol levels, which is why there is a slew of cholesterol lowering drugs available. People with high cholestrol and heart disease have it because of genetics, not diet. Sure, a bad diet can make it worse, but it cannot create a condition that is, for the most part, genetic.
I'm 5'10" 210-215lbs ~32-33" waist, but I'm not sure what my body fat is. It's pretty low though. I eat fast food qite a bit. As a matter of fact, I went to a baseball game yesterday, ate a footlong hotdog with ketchup/mustard, nachos with cheese and a butt load of jalapeños, cotton candy and a big ass Dr Pepper! Good stuff. Alot of it is genetic because I should be one fat dude, but I'm not. I do work out, but nothing crazy. Sucks for people with bad genetics.
And I don't know what I'd do if I was only able to bench 335lbs.
Not eating hamburgers != not eating.
Instead of eating double quarter pounders at McDonald's with triple chocolate shiakesevery night , if the average person ate something healthier they would be much better off.
In either case though, if an overweight person did cut down their 4000 calorie a day intake..which is about right for quite a few people out there, to a more respectable level of say 3000, and slowly build it down, they will also be a lot better off. Most likely this will cut down on fat/saturated fats/refined carbs in what they're eating as well..which undoubtedly be beneficial.
The point is, the thread title of putting that burger down, is extremely good advice for fat people to lose weight.
Yet you pretty much generalize all fat people for needing to change their activity levels? You can be the most active person in the world and still be morbidly obese if you're eating 6000 calories a day.
I'm about sixty lbs overweight right now and I'm actively making changes to my lifestyle (taking vitamins regularly, exercise (just pushups now, working up to include situps and a 3 mile run), eating something each morning and not eating 3 hours before bed) and my diet (more yogurt, meat, milk, water, no soda, cutting down on sweets). Life is too short to be fat, and it simply takes too much of a toll on various areas of my life.
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Because while calorie intake in the US has risen only 300 calories in the last 35 years (the vast majority of those increased calories are grains, not meats or fats) activity levels have dropped far more.
And these two tie together. What are most munchies made of? Grains. Chips, crackers, cakes and breads are made mainly of grains. When and why do people munch? Because they're sitting around inactive. How do you keep from munching? Be more active. Active people don't munch anywhere near the level of inactive people because they CAN'T.
Your exaggerated calorie intake example is just that.
I didn't miss the point. There IS no point to the "fatty foods/fast foods are making America fat" argument. In the same 35 year time span that calorie intake increased in the US, fat consumption per calorie consumed DROPPED.
The ONLY change in the US that directly correlates with the rise in obesity in the US is the rise in popularity of cable/sat TV, video games and the Internet, i.e., a sharp drop in activity levels.
It's the fries and the 32 ounze soda and the evening plans of TV/neffing that gain the weight.
It's hard to gain weight with just meat. Unless the burger has like thick buns smothered in butter.
It's hard to gain weight with just meat. Unless the burger has like thick buns smothered in butter.
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not to suggest anything, but i find it funny we are on the opposite end of extremes.
I used to be very active back in high school, working out a good 2-3 hours a day, being on a varsity team for a year and all. once I came to college tho, sedentary lifestyle of a college student has gotten the best of me. I walk to class, and thats about the most workout I get all day long, or such was the case up until recently. I finally decided to get back to working out, and was surprised I only had 4.7% body fat when I hit the gym for the first time in about a half year or so. 5'8'' and around 140lbs, and I dont really get to touch burgers much at all. not that I do that for health concerns, just that fastfood costs way more than what I cook myself (to have enough portions that is) and I am too lazy to visit fastfood joints.
MichaelD
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Skinny? More like emaciated. I'm 6'1" and 225...admittedly, slightly overweight.
When I was 205, I looked and felt great. I was thin. Long ago, I was 190...that was SKINNY. I'm not a small-boned type person.
In fact...some of my bones are quite large.
Couldn't resist that one. 
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