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PSA: Never rent your house out via section 8

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s0me0nesmind1 said:
Jeebus.

I'm guessing burn marks in the bathroom marble was from cooking up some heroin or something?
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mrjminer said:
Too lazy to go back and check the video, but at least one of them looked the length of a curling iron IIRC
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Curling iron is certainly possible, but being a former smoker, my bet is on placing cigarettes on the edge and letting them burn.

And, yes, it is "boo" "coo". I've never heard anyone say the word "Bow" "Coo".
 
I noticed no one seemed to mention that this is par for course for most renters, section 8 or not. There is a very slim portion of the population that has respect for property they don't own, let alone stuff they do own.
 
clamum said:
Pretty sure he's roughly my age (32) or so. He's probably referring to his family or parents or something. Unless mah boy Zane got into rental properties at 10 years of age.
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Back in Dec '07, he claims he was 22 years old and heading to jail for drug use.
 
Just curious, am I the only one that has doubts about the authenticity of the narrative in this video? After doing some searching, everything seems to point back to the LiveLeak video. I can't find an original post or any follow up.

Frankly, I think the story is pure P.S.

-KeithP
 
KeithP said:
Just curious, am I the only one that has doubts about the authenticity of the narrative in this video? After doing some searching, everything seems to point back to the LiveLeak video. I can't find an original post or any follow up.

Frankly, I think the story is pure P.S.

-KeithP
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I've had sec 8 rentals and I've run down deadbeats since 1987. Believe it.
 
KeithP said:
Just curious, am I the only one that has doubts about the authenticity of the narrative in this video? After doing some searching, everything seems to point back to the LiveLeak video. I can't find an original post or any follow up.

Frankly, I think the story is pure P.S.

-KeithP
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Pretty sure the original was on Facebook and people asked him to upload to LiveLeak so they could share outside of Facebook. Lying about a video going viral doesn't make it go viral, and the previous release didn't have any bearing on the content, so I hope you are just making a tongue-in-cheek observation about how cynical we have been with other fishy videos.
 
ImpulsE69 said:
I noticed no one seemed to mention that this is par for course for most renters, section 8 or not. There is a very slim portion of the population that has respect for property they don't own, let alone stuff they do own.
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No one mentioned that because that isn't true. This isn't close to par for the course for most renters.
 
Sec. 8 can be good if you find the right people.

Not every Sec. 8 renter is a loser. You can find crappy renters, Sec. 8 or not.

Though you can make a good case that a fair amount on Sec.8 have issues: govt. benefit manipulators, drug users, gangsters, lazy/don't want to work, don't know how to manage money, dysfunctional families/friends that tear down your house from their fights, etc.

In my experience, I'd say only 1 in 10 on Sec. 8 are worth renting out to.

When you dive into background checks, you realize they are a time bomb in the making......not worth the potential damage to your property or destined stressful eviction proceedings just so you can get a monthly govt. check.
 
CZroe said:
Pretty sure the original was on Facebook and people asked him to upload to LiveLeak so they could share outside of Facebook. Lying about a video going viral doesn't make it go viral, and the previous release didn't have any bearing on the content, so I hope you are just making a tongue-in-cheek observation about how cynical we have been with other fishy videos.
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Completely serious. Don't get me wrong, I am in no way trying to say what is claimed in the video could not happen. On the contrary, I very much believe it is possible.

However, every Facebook link I found for this point back to the liveleak video or a youtube video that came from the liveleak video. The fact that it supposedly started on Facebook is a major red flag anyway.

If someone went to the trouble of creating this video to document their experience, I refuse to believe there wouldn't have been follow up videos on what is happening in regards to the property. Especially given the traction the video managed to get.

Besides what is even the point with the video? Is it that all, or a large percentage, of section 8 recipients are irresponsible tenants that destroy property? Of course that is garbage. Is the point someone that works and pays their own rent doesn't destroy property? Also garbage.

It really smacks of some jackhole that dislikes section 8 or similar government programs putting together a video hoping that it gets passed around. Too many people accept things without actual proof as long as it fits their preconceived notions of the world.

The more I think about it, the more I am sure that the story is crap. Sure, it is possible it happened...but it didn't.

-KeithP
 
Ahem. If you aren't an actual landlord please step away from this thread. That being said, section 8? If you consider it AT ALL for your area you bought in the wrong area. Get while the getting good. The gubment gon sav you mang.
 
Ns1 said:
necro'ed for this? really?
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So what? If people get tired of talking about it it again it'll die again.

It was a relevant to the argument and I would've done it a long time ago if I had found this on YouTube back then.
 
KeithP said:
Completely serious. Don't get me wrong, I am in no way trying to say what is claimed in the video could not happen. On the contrary, I very much believe it is possible.

However, every Facebook link I found for this point back to the liveleak video or a youtube video that came from the liveleak video. The fact that it supposedly started on Facebook is a major red flag anyway.

If someone went to the trouble of creating this video to document their experience, I refuse to believe there wouldn't have been follow up videos on what is happening in regards to the property. Especially given the traction the video managed to get.

Besides what is even the point with the video? Is it that all, or a large percentage, of section 8 recipients are irresponsible tenants that destroy property? Of course that is garbage. Is the point someone that works and pays their own rent doesn't destroy property? Also garbage.

It really smacks of some jackhole that dislikes section 8 or similar government programs putting together a video hoping that it gets passed around. Too many people accept things without actual proof as long as it fits their preconceived notions of the world.

The more I think about it, the more I am sure that the story is crap. Sure, it is possible it happened...but it didn't.

-KeithP
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Confused.
If I was understandably frustrated with the condition of the house and made a quick video expressing that for Facebook as so many others frustrated by something have done, how does that make it any less believable? Facebook allows you to delete videos and share only with friends, extended friends of friends, etc. Not sure why you expect the original to still be available to you there. I routinely have trouble finding stupid things I know certain people have shared on Facebook before.

He's frustrated and looking for someone/something to blame and so he decided that Section 8 was a large reason why someone who didn't respect the value of the property was living there. Right or wrong, it has nothing to do with how or where the original video was released. Trashing your own place to criticize Section 8 sounds far less likely. Do you want me to drive out there and ask him (it is local)?

It was just a quick Facebook video or something. He made it very clear that this is a much longer video made in response to people wanting to share the original.
 
KeithP said:
Completely serious. Don't get me wrong, I am in no way trying to say what is claimed in the video could not happen. On the contrary, I very much believe it is possible.

However, every Facebook link I found for this point back to the liveleak video or a youtube video that came from the liveleak video. The fact that it supposedly started on Facebook is a major red flag anyway.

If someone went to the trouble of creating this video to document their experience, I refuse to believe there wouldn't have been follow up videos on what is happening in regards to the property. Especially given the traction the video managed to get.

Besides what is even the point with the video? Is it that all, or a large percentage, of section 8 recipients are irresponsible tenants that destroy property? Of course that is garbage. Is the point someone that works and pays their own rent doesn't destroy property? Also garbage.

It really smacks of some jackhole that dislikes section 8 or similar government programs putting together a video hoping that it gets passed around. Too many people accept things without actual proof as long as it fits their preconceived notions of the world.

The more I think about it, the more I am sure that the story is crap. Sure, it is possible it happened...but it didn't.

-KeithP
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It's real. You don't seem to realize it, but you seem to be distorting reality to fit a narrative in your own mind.

So his initial Facebook post would only be visible to friends/family with default privacy settings. Obviously.
 
My family was poor the entire time I was growing up; They left many a house like this.

Poor people are, more often than not, poor because 1) they have a culture that has glorified poverty of some kind (usually poverty of education) or 2) they have serious psychosocial disorders such that keep them from maintaining and advancing in a job (usually napoleon complex regarding 'respect' where in someone criticizing their work is taken as a good reason to punch someone in the face).

Take the lack of self-respect from two, and add in the lack of knowledge regarding proper home maintenance (along with everything else) in one: and you get fucking bad renters.
 
At my old house we had a section 8 renter on the other side of the alley from us. She had men coming in and out of the place all the time while her kids were running around raising hell. One of the men decided to have his mail delivered to the house so she got busted and lost her funding. She took it out on the owner by plugging the sinks and cranking the water to full as they moved out

Up until my new house I was always in areas with lots of POW's. That's pussy on welfare to you suburban white boys. Many of them live up to the classic stereotype in my experience. Kids running around raising hell not being raised worth a crap with more on the way, let the house go to hell and no intention on bettering their lives
 
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DixyCrat said:
My family was poor the entire time I was growing up; They left many a house like this.

Poor people are, more often than not, poor because 1) they have a culture that has glorified poverty of some kind (usually poverty of education) or 2) they have serious psychosocial disorders such that keep them from maintaining and advancing in a job (usually napoleon complex regarding 'respect' where in someone criticizing their work is taken as a good reason to punch someone in the face).

Take the lack of self-respect from two, and add in the lack of knowledge regarding proper home maintenance (along with everything else) in one: and you get fucking bad renters.
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Unfortunate truth.

There are hard working class families that deserve breaks to strive ahead and I would welcome renting out to such Section 8 candidates.

But from extensive experience, it is extremely difficult to get a candidate that you feel adequately comfortable with.

It's actually quite shocking how abundantly bad most Section 8 applicants are in my area and wonder how the fuck they manipulated their way into a Section 8 coupon. 90% of my background checks have lead to serious bald faced lies that can't be ironed over. :colbert:

The wild card is also their dicey family or friends they never introduce you to that ends up amplying the eventual shitstorm.
 
DixyCrat said:
My family was poor the entire time I was growing up; They left many a house like this.

Poor people are, more often than not, poor because 1) they have a culture that has glorified poverty of some kind (usually poverty of education) or 2) they have serious psychosocial disorders such that keep them from maintaining and advancing in a job (usually napoleon complex regarding 'respect' where in someone criticizing their work is taken as a good reason to punch someone in the face).

Take the lack of self-respect from two, and add in the lack of knowledge regarding proper home maintenance (along with everything else) in one: and you get fucking bad renters.
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seriously?
 
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