PSA: Linux hits 3% on Steam (Actual usage over 5% of all computers)

[[DHT]Osiris]

*Points at Windows11, waves hands around and makes incoherent noises*

Win11 is virtually identical to Win10, with the exception of moving around UI elements to make them less useful.

 

[biostud]

Yes, that becomes a possibility, but that just seems like another hoop to jump through and kind of defeats the purpose of trying to leave Windows behind. Maybe I'm just lazy.

You don't have to leave Windows, you can have it as dual boot. Personally I'm not going to be fanatic about leaving Windows.

But let's just say that the last 6 months has made me think that it might be a good idea idea to value my privacy from US companies far more than before. And also win11 was really starting to suck, so I felt it was the right time to try something new.

But if NSA wants access, they just have to infiltrate steam....

 

[cytg111]

Ok granted I just woke up when I started responding but I still can't understand, what does email proton have to do with linux distros since this is a linux distro thread??

That's why my mind can't make the connection.. or this is just a tangent?

Aaaah, come on, we're better than that... That kind of rationalizing is what the other team does .

The connection is pretty clear:
Linux, in the context of getting off Windows.
Europe is getting off Windows cause its US software, so me and bio have a vested interest in this thread.
Branching from getting off US software -> getting off gmail and the likes.

But yea, we were clearly discussing email and no it's not an insane spinoff relative thread title and what we have always done here in PN.

 

[Indus]

Win11 is virtually identical to Win10, with the exception of moving around UI elements to make them less useful.

Why is the last time Linux users reacted with this kind of hate towards a new version was back when Gnome 3 came out??

Did they actually figure out what people want??

 

[nakedfrog]

I hated it when Ubuntu was using that UI that was Mac-like (I didn't use Ubuntu much, but that made me stop). Somewhere around 2010-2013ish?

 

[Indus]

I hated it when Ubuntu was using that UI that was Mac-like (I didn't use Ubuntu much, but that made me stop). Somewhere around 2010-2013ish?

Yep I gave up on untu's just about then too..

I'm just glad KDE got it's shit together and is one of the most polished desktop environments if not arguably the most polished one around.

Edit: BTW untu's are certified pyschos now because while the mainstream linux community loves flathub.. Ubuntu is dedicated to using snaps. Things are so bad.. Linux Mint made Linux Mint Debian Edition so that people who love Linux Mint can still continue using it with a debian base if Ubuntu is no longer a reliable base for an operating system.

Don't believe me.. have a look: https://linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

That's why I put my wife on LMDE instead of standard LM and she loves it. Debian doesn't do stupid shit like that.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Why is the last time Linux users reacted with this kind of hate towards a new version was back when Gnome 3 came out??

Did they actually figure out what people want??

People fling hate at windows because it's windows, but they do make dumbass decisions in the name of modern design all the time (you know, just like everyone else). There's no specific reason to hate win11 unless you hate win10, and no reason to hate win10 unless you just really loved win7. 10/11 are fine and far more secure than 7.

 

[nakedfrog]

People fling hate at windows because it's windows, but they do make dumbass decisions in the name of modern design all the time (you know, just like everyone else). There's no specific reason to hate win11 unless you hate win10, and no reason to hate win10 unless you just really loved win7. 10/11 are fine and far more secure than 7.

Win7 was peak Windows. Win10 did a lot worse, and Win11 is worse than Win10. The new Start menu is hot fucking garbage, file explorer is worse in multiple ways, for some stupid reason now the calendar pop-up only pops up on the main display even if you clicked on the clock widget on a different display, etc.

 

[Indus]

People fling hate at windows because it's windows, but they do make dumbass decisions in the name of modern design all the time (you know, just like everyone else). There's no specific reason to hate win11 unless you hate win10, and no reason to hate win10 unless you just really loved win7. 10/11 are fine and far more secure than 7.

People just hate having to learn things all over again. They're comfortable with the familiar.

I thought my dad was being difficult with the switch from Windows 7 to 10 and then I realized I was going through the same thing when Samsung got rid of their home key on phones and required swipes?

I still use the virtual home key on my phone.

 

[manly]

I hated it when Ubuntu was using that UI that was Mac-like (I didn't use Ubuntu much, but that made me stop). Somewhere around 2010-2013ish?

Ubuntu killed Unity, but a young kid in India brought it back.

Saraswat was ten years old in 2020 when he first released Ubuntu Unity. He indicated at the time that his goal was to eventually have the distribution accepted as an official Ubuntu "flavour".

Ubuntu Unity - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Indus]

Ubuntu killed Unity, but a young kid in India brought it back.

Ubuntu Unity - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I never asked you.. what do you feel more comfy with? XFCE/ KDE/ Gnome or something else?

 

[nakedfrog]

Ubuntu killed Unity, but a young kid in India brought it back.

Ubuntu Unity - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That's the one! Good for him, I reckon.

 

[lxskllr]

Win7 was peak Windows.

I actually liked vista. I still think it was the most beautiful windows, and it never gave me any real problems. Their user security model was still a work in progress, and could sometimes be annoying, but it was better than the allow everything always model of xp.

 

[nakedfrog]

I actually liked vista. I still think it was the most beautiful windows, and it never gave me any real problems. Their user security model was still a work in progress, and could sometimes be annoying, but it was better than the allow everything always model of xp.

I didn't start using Vista until SP1, and I never had any real problems with it either.

 

[Zepp]

Ubuntu killed Unity, but a young kid in India brought it back.

Ubuntu Unity - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

they killed their own unity desktop and Mir display server, I wonder how much longer until they do the same with snap..?

 

[lxskllr]

Ubuntu's "attitude" is what got me to switch to debian. Too much corporate stuff, and too many things had to be changed to be worth it. When it was based off gnome2, it was debian for all intents and purposes, and aside from a couple minor customizations, I could just install it and start running. Then they switched to unity, and I switched to xubuntu cause I like the "classic" desktop paradigm. Then the amazon advertising "scandal" came about, and some other small things I can't remember now, I went to debian. They aren't corporate, and I like their libre first, but easy enough to go non free attitude. Requires a bit more setup cause everything's vanilla, but I was changing enough stuff on the later *buntus, that it evened out. Debian just meshes better with my philosophy.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Win7 was peak Windows. Win10 did a lot worse, and Win11 is worse than Win10. The new Start menu is hot fucking garbage, file explorer is worse in multiple ways, for some stupid reason now the calendar pop-up only pops up on the main display even if you clicked on the clock widget on a different display, etc.

Win7 had a great UI but the OS itself was shit. Patching was shit (remember the days pre-cumulative patches? 300+ patches on a fresh install?). Security was shit (anything based on the win7/2008 platform had registry changes required for certain security patches, that virtually nobody did). Performance was shit. Bloat was shit.

 

[manly]

I never asked you.. what do you feel more comfy with? XFCE/ KDE/ Gnome or something else?

I'm not into tinkering or customization. I'll use whatever is "stock" for the OS. For a long time, that was Unity but since it was deprecated, I was forced to switch to GNOME.

they killed their own unity desktop and Mir display server, I wonder how much longer until they do the same with snap..?

Here's hoping.

 

[biostud]

People fling hate at windows because it's windows, but they do make dumbass decisions in the name of modern design all the time (you know, just like everyone else). There's no specific reason to hate win11 unless you hate win10, and no reason to hate win10 unless you just really loved win7. 10/11 are fine and far more secure than 7.

Reasons why I don't like windows 11.

Co-pilot integration, the upcoming snapshot (or whatever it's called, where it takes snaps of what you are doing) and the really annoying new UI.
(At least when don't get ads in the OS here in EU. )


All that combined with your new government, has simply made me want to try something else where I believe my data is more private and a OS which isn't made to profit Microsoft the most, but rather focused on the users interest.

 

[WelshBloke]

Reasons why I don't like windows 11.

Co-pilot integration, the upcoming snapshot (or whatever it's called, where it takes snaps of what you are doing) and the really annoying new UI.
(At least when don't get ads in the OS here in EU. )


All that combined with your new government, has simply made me want to try something else where I believe my data is more private and a OS which isn't made to profit Microsoft the most, but rather focused on the users interest.

Plus the constant push to use a microsoft account to log in, the constant push to cloud services (yeah i get that you can disable one drive but microsoft REALLY wants you to use it), the constant pushing of crap that I dont want or need, why can someone in France uninstall Edge but apparently outside of certain areas edge is "vital" to the OS to function and so cant be uninstalled?

Honestly I'm just tired of the constant battle with Microsoft to get my PC to run the way I want it to. Its just gotten exhausting! And I say this as someone that grew up on Microsoft products from Win3.* and pre android windows mobile stuff.

 

[Brainonska511]

Plus the constant push to use a microsoft account to log in, the constant push to cloud services (yeah i get that you can disable one drive but microsoft REALLY wants you to use it), the constant pushing of crap that I dont want or need, why can someone in France uninstall Edge but apparently outside of certain areas edge is "vital" to the OS to function and so cant be uninstalled?

Honestly I'm just tired of the constant battle with Microsoft to get my PC to run the way I want it to. Its just gotten exhausting! And I say this as someone that grew up on Microsoft products from Win3.* and pre android windows mobile stuff.

If only the Bush administration didn't let Microsoft off easy for the antitrust violations by not breaking up the company.

 

[biostud]

Plus the constant push to use a microsoft account to log in, the constant push to cloud services (yeah i get that you can disable one drive but microsoft REALLY wants you to use it), the constant pushing of crap that I dont want or need, why can someone in France uninstall Edge but apparently outside of certain areas edge is "vital" to the OS to function and so cant be uninstalled?

Honestly I'm just tired of the constant battle with Microsoft to get my PC to run the way I want it to. Its just gotten exhausting! And I say this as someone that grew up on Microsoft products from Win3.* and pre android windows mobile stuff.

Wasn't that much of a problem as I am a subscriber to M365 family and enjoyed the benefits of Onedrive.

 

[WelshBloke]

Wasn't that much of a problem as I am a subscriber to M365 family and enjoyed the benefits of Onedrive.

OneDrive has ballsed up my file system too many times!
Also I find that if I'm using multiple computers it's constantly trying to sync files that I don't want synced (like game saves).
If it just worked like a network drive I'd be ok with it but it tries to take over way too much.
I have a M365 account (wife has to run MS office stuff for her work) but I don't use any of it as it's a PITA!

 

[DZero]

Just tried switching over the last 2 days, but have been having issues with black screens on both Fedora and Mint, which is exactly the same problem I had with Linux 10 years ago.

Would love to finally ditch Windows.

So, Steam OS won't be for you then. Check the specs of your computer, maybe that would be the issue.

 

[Indus]

Just tried switching over the last 2 days, but have been having issues with black screens on both Fedora and Mint, which is exactly the same problem I had with Linux 10 years ago.

Would love to finally ditch Windows.

I'm curious.. black screen when exactly?

Do you go afk 5 mins and come back to a black screen?