PSA: Linux hits 3% on Steam (Actual usage over 5% of all computers)

[cytg111]

Think I might give Budgie a run, been using it some vm's, its growing on me.

Doesnt help win11 is unmitigated disaster.. everything just keeps getting worse, every day at work I find a new "feature" that's borderline braindead. Just today, outlook, how does windows handle alt tab and outlook, like every other app? Nope. Anyway

 

[BurnItDwn]

Arch is only for a specific kind of self-hating Linux user.

Most Arch problems only happen when you reboot.
Simple solution: never reboot!

 

[Zepp]

Think I might give Budgie a run, been using it some vm's, its growing on me.

Budgie is probably my favorite desktop environment.

To me it has a more polished modern feel than Xfce or MATE with a similar clean simplicity and slim RAM footprint.

The only thing I particularly dont like about it is it's app menu has basic organization and no favorite pinning options.
I also wish the panel clock had the calender integrated like many other DE's.
The Raven popout menu seems more of an unfinished idea that a notable feature. not enough plugins for it.
More desktop icon freedom would be nice, older versions actually had it.

Doesnt help win11 is unmitigated disaster.. everything just keeps getting worse, every day at work I find a new "feature" that's borderline braindead. Just today, outlook, how does windows handle alt tab and outlook, like every other app? Nope. Anyway

oh man tell me about it. Every time I have to tab into my win11 VM for work it finds a way to frustrate me. The first right click of the day is a 10 sec delay for the context menu to pop up, like WTF...

 

[Indus]

Think I might give Budgie a run, been using it some vm's, its growing on me.

Doesnt help win11 is unmitigated disaster.. everything just keeps getting worse, every day at work I find a new "feature" that's borderline braindead. Just today, outlook, how does windows handle alt tab and outlook, like every other app? Nope. Anyway

Yeah the Desktop Enviroment is the hardest decision for most new users.

I tried budgie and I didn't hate it.

I like Cinnamon but I really feel comfy with KDE. It's been that way since I first tried Mandrake Linux in 2001 or so. Tried GNOME but although I likes its cleanliness and practicality.. KDE just feels natural to me.

Thankfully there's no right way or wrong way in Linux.. just do it your way!

It's funny though I liked Mandrake then and it was based on Red Hat.. but it used KDE. I am now on Ultramarine KDE.. which is basically Fedora (owned/ operated by Red Hat) and still using KDE.

I guess we all go back to our comfort zone!

 

[cytg111]

Yeah the Desktop Enviroment is the hardest decision for most new users.

I tried budgie and I didn't hate it.

I like Cinnamon but I really feel comfy with KDE. It's been that way since I first tried Mandrake Linux in 2001 or so. Tried GNOME but although I likes its cleanliness and practicality.. KDE just feels natural to me.

Thankfully there's no right way or wrong way in Linux.. just do it your way!

It's funny though I liked Mandrake then and it was based on Red Hat.. but it used KDE. I am now on Ultramarine KDE.. which is basically Fedora (owned/ operated by Red Hat) and still using KDE.

I guess we all go back to our comfort zone!

I want my ui to be intuitive fast and low footprint.. In that order. I have no idea why people like KDE plasma widgets and whatnot... fireworks is for end of year thing.
The best UI experience is one you dont even realize or remember having done, it was that seamless intuitive and fast that it was more an instinct than actual thought.
Hate on Steve Jobs but he actually got some of that.

 

[biostud]

I feel you, I'll just add a link to my journey thread from win11 to Linux Mint. https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/linux-on-a-usb-or-vm.2622032/

To anyone starting to be Linux curious (or just starting to really hate win11) this is my short guide to get started (if it is you main rig):

1. Look around, ask on forums, watch youtube etc and find some distros you might find interesting

2. Install them and run in a VM to get the "feel" of them. Find out how Linux work, what software can you run, what can't run at what kind of workarounds do you have to live with. You can't use VM feel the snappiness of Linux or if it will work with your specific hardware.

3. Examine if any of your hardware won't work under Linux. I have a Soundblaster AE-7 which works, but only because of unofficial drivers. AE-5 uses the same drivers so it is fine, AE-9 doesn't have any, so it doesn't work under Linux.

4. If everything so far is working for you, you are ready to install Linux. I would recommend dual-boot until you are ready to full transition. Linux should be installed on an empty and separate drive from Windows. This way Linux will install its own bootloader on that drive and won't interfere with the Windows bootloader. I would also recommend to partition the drive in two smaller partitions 250-500GB and a larger one. This way you can try two different distros at the same time and keep the data on the larger partition. Also don't use NTFS for the DATA partition, as steam won't run games from NTFS under Linux

Also I will probably keep my dual boot as I have some photo software that is not available under Linux, and I also have a win11 VM udner Linux as there is some software my work uses which is Windows only.

Personally I've also used an AI to help me with commands in Linux and getting things done, which has saved me some time.

Also I'm ditching M365 and switching to https://filen.io/ and https://proton.me/

 

[Brainonska511]

Tried GNOME but although I likes its cleanliness and practicality.. KDE just feels natural to me.

I liked GNOME long ago, when it had the classic look. When I was in grad school, we had that as the interface on a Red Hat install that was handling our NMR spectrometer. But on the computers we used for data analysis, I installed Fedora with the KDE interface. I wasn't a big fan of the new GNOME interface that came about with Ubuntu v8 or 9 in the late 2000s (?).

 

[cytg111]

I feel you, I'll just add a link to my journey thread from win11 to Linux Mint. https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/linux-on-a-usb-or-vm.2622032/

To anyone starting to be Linux curious (or just starting to really hate win11) this is my short guide to get started (if it is you main rig):

1. Look around, ask on forums, watch youtube etc and find some distros you might find interesting

2. Install them and run in a VM to get the "feel" of them. Find out how Linux work, what software can you run, what can't run at what kind of workarounds do you have to live with. You can't use VM feel the snappiness of Linux or if it will work with your specific hardware.

3. Examine if any of your hardware won't work under Linux. I have a Soundblaster AE-7 which works, but only because of unofficial drivers. AE-5 uses the same drivers so it is fine, AE-9 doesn't have any, so it doesn't work under Linux.

4. If everything so far is working for you, you are ready to install Linux. I would recommend dual-boot until you are ready to full transition. Linux should be installed on an empty and separate drive from Windows. This way Linux will install its own bootloader on that drive and won't interfere with the Windows bootloader. I would also recommend to partition the drive in two smaller partitions 250-500GB and a larger one. This way you can try two different distros at the same time and keep the data on the larger partition. Also don't use NTFS for the DATA partition, as steam won't run games from NTFS under Linux

Also I will probably keep my dual boot as I have some photo software that is not available under Linux, and I also have a win11 VM udner Linux as there is some software my work uses which is Windows only.

Personally I've also used an AI to help me with commands in Linux and getting things done, which has saved me some time.

Also I'm ditching M365 and switching to https://filen.io/ and https://proton.me/

Luckily today most questions can be answered by an AI.
Was using gentoo back when... daamn that was "fun"
Been thinking about Proton... another job in the waiting, migrating 20 years of gmail to another platform.... ffs america.

 

[Indus]

I liked GNOME long ago, when it had the classic look. When I was in grad school, we had that as the interface on a Red Hat install that was handling our NMR spectrometer. But on the computers we used for data analysis, I installed Fedora with the KDE interface. I wasn't a big fan of the new GNOME interface that came about with Ubuntu v8 or 9 in the late 2000s (?).

If you like Fedora and KDE..I suggest you take a look at 2 distros first.

1. If you just want to game: Bazzite
2. If you want to game and also host a home network across computers: Ultramarine

The reason I'm recommending them over Fedora is they're basically Fedora spins with added drivers and will save you a lot of time especially if you have an Nvidia card. Setting an nvidia card's drivers is a nightmare. I actually wrecked 2 installs due to that.. then was recommended bazzite and ultramarine and am happy with either.

And I could add a conspiracy theory.. microsoft pays NVIDIA to make their drivers trash in linux hoping that people come back to WIndows. AMD however is very happy to pick up marketshare!

Infact I have a thread I made about my experiences

 

[cytg111]

I liked GNOME long ago, when it had the classic look. When I was in grad school, we had that as the interface on a Red Hat install that was handling our NMR spectrometer. But on the computers we used for data analysis, I installed Fedora with the KDE interface. I wasn't a big fan of the new GNOME interface that came about with Ubuntu v8 or 9 in the late 2000s (?).

Yea that was when i ditched linux and went back to windows, when they went gnome3.

Why f something that works???

 

[Indus]

Yea that was when i ditched linux and went back to windows, when they went gnome3.

Why f something that works???

Where GNOME faltered, KDE, Cinnamon and XFCE have learned massively from that.

They're still very classic in that sense:

KDE looks like windows 10,
Cinnamon looks like Windows 7,
and XFCE looks like Windows 2000/XP.

 

[WelshBloke]

I am going to throw my hat into the ring and suggest Zorin. It's based on the long term release of Ubuntu so it's really stable and has great compatibility with all the guides and stuff on GitHub. It also looks really pretty!
It's got a paid version with extra support and themes but you don't need that at all.
I've had literally no problems with it at all for my Steam library. I can even run GTA5! Not the online bit though!

It does use Gnome though if that's not your thing.

 

[nakedfrog]

Luckily today most questions can be answered by an AI.
Was using gentoo back when... daamn that was "fun"
Been thinking about Proton... another job in the waiting, migrating 20 years of gmail to another platform.... ffs america.

We had a Gentoo box that ran Subversion at work, it was a bare-ass minimal install, anything that wasn't required was not installed (so no GUI). It was only accessible internally from a specific subnet, so we basically didn't touch it apart from Subversion via other PCs. When it was finally decommissioned, the uptime had been something like 11 years I think.

 

[biostud]

Luckily today most questions can be answered by an AI.
Was using gentoo back when... daamn that was "fun"
Been thinking about Proton... another job in the waiting, migrating 20 years of gmail to another platform.... ffs america.

Proton has an automated import from outlook and Gmail, so it is quite easy. They still haven't released a Linux client for their drive, hence the use of filen.io. (Also it is cheaper.)

 

[Brainonska511]

Proton has an automated import from outlook and Gmail, so it is quite easy. They still haven't released a Linux client for their drive, hence the use of filen.io. (Also it is cheaper.)

Proton Mail Says It’s “Politically Neutral” While Praising Republican Party

The “privacy-first” company surprised its user base when CEO Andy Yen lauded Trump on social media.

theintercept.com

Funny that you mention Proton, with their CEO earlier this year claiming that Republicans would stand up against Tech (fucking L O L)

 

[Indus]

Proton Mail Says It’s “Politically Neutral” While Praising Republican Party

The “privacy-first” company surprised its user base when CEO Andy Yen lauded Trump on social media.

theintercept.com

Funny that you mention Proton, with their CEO earlier this year claiming that Republicans would stand up against Tech (fucking L O L)

Some context is needed:

 

[Brainonska511]

Some context is needed:

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Why would Steam's Proton need import functions for Outlook and Gmail? Given the context, it was clearly about Proton (the email/tech company).

 

[Indus]

Why would Steam's Proton need import functions for Outlook and Gmail? Given the context, it was clearly about Proton (the email/tech company).

Umm that makes no sense

I've got Proton Plus, Protonup-QT, Protontricks and PortProton installed. It's a steam compatibility layer that's never asked about outlook and gmail.. instead it asks for which windows games do you want to install and play in proton.

Protonmail however is an email web client owned by a totally different company. They probably want to set up an email client like outlook or thunderbird and for that you'd need those import functions.

Completely unrelated things with the same name.

 

[Brainonska511]

Proton has an automated import from outlook and Gmail, so it is quite easy. They still haven't released a Linux client for their drive, hence the use of filen.io. (Also it is cheaper.)

Umm that makes no sense

I've got Proton Plus, Protonup-QT, Protontricks and PortProton installed. It's a steam compatibility layer that's never asked about outlook and gmail.. instead it asks for which windows games do you want to install and play in proton.

Protonmail however is an email web client owned by a totally different company. They probably want to set up an email client like outlook or thunderbird and for that you'd need those import functions.

Completely unrelated things with the same name.

Read Biostud's post

 

[Indus]

Read Biostud's post

I did but it still doesn't make sense to me.

But I just happened to remember that Steam's Valve has been developing Steam OS which is another linux distro. For that you might need those import things if you wanted to provide email basics.

Other than that I can't think of a reason.. maybe I need some tea so I can think correctly?

 

[Brainonska511]

I did but it still doesn't make sense to me.

But I just happened to remember that Steam's Valve has been developing Steam OS which is another linux distro. For that you might need those import things if you wanted to provide email basics.

Other than that I can't think of a reason.. maybe I need some tea so I can think correctly?

Because they're not talking about Steam's thing. They're talking about migrating email from one platform to another.

 

[Indus]

Because they're not talking about Steam's thing. They're talking about migrating email from one platform to another.

I think biostud might be confused and he's managed to do the same thing to me.. my mind seems twisted like a pretzel trying to make sense of it when they're not even the same company or on the same continent and have nothing to do with each other.

 

[cytg111]

Proton has an automated import from outlook and Gmail, so it is quite easy. They still haven't released a Linux client for their drive, hence the use of filen.io. (Also it is cheaper.)

Thats really nice to know thx.. guess the real quest will be to update everywhere the old mail is in use.. that gonna suck too

 

[nakedfrog]

I think biostud might be confused and he's managed to do the same thing to me.. my mind seems twisted like a pretzel trying to make sense of it when they're not even the same company or on the same continent and have nothing to do with each other.

No, it's entirely you that is confused, everyone else has been talking about Proton in an email context, starting with cytg111 in post #33, then biostud responding in post #39, the context is clearly referring to email (it begins with discussion of migrating to Proton from Gmail).

 

[Indus]

No, it's entirely you that is confused, everyone else has been talking about Proton in an email context, starting with cytg111 in post #33, then biostud responding in post #39, the context is clearly referring to email (it begins with discussion of migrating to Proton from Gmail).

Ok granted I just woke up when I started responding but I still can't understand, what does email proton have to do with linux distros since this is a linux distro thread??

That's why my mind can't make the connection.. or this is just a tangent?