PSA: Just because you refuse red meat does NOT make you vegetarian

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dullard

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Originally posted by: Triumph
Yes you're a vegetarian. It's vegans who don't eat any animal products, such as eggs, cheese, milk, urine, feces, snot...
Except the average 3 spiders that crawl into your mouth each year as you sleep, the countless bugs you inhale, and that isn't even to include the FDA allowable/unavoidable "defects". Here are some highlights:
[*]Average of 60 or more aphids and/or thrips and/or mites per 100 grams of broccoli.
[*]Average of over 20 or more maggots of any size per 100 grams of drained mushrooms and proportionate liquid or 15 grams of dried mushrooms.
[*]Average of 30 or more insect fragments per 100 grams of peanut butter.
[*]Average of 30 or more fly eggs per 100 grams of tomato paste or pizza sauce.
Etc.

They just think they are vegan. No one ever is truely.


(My attempt to calm down the raging hunger in this thread).
 

Bootprint

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semi or partial vegetarian: avoids red meat only

ovo-lacto-vegetarian: avoids meat, seafood and poultry, but does consume milk products and eggs

lacto-vegetarian: avoids meat, seafood and poultry and eggs, but does consume milk products

ovo-vegetarian: avoids meat, seafood and poultry and milk products, but does consume eggs

vegan: avoids all foods that contain animal products, including meat, seafood and poultry, milk products and eggs



So they could say that they were semi-vegetarian.
 

oboeguy

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I call those who don't eat animals but do eat fish "fishetarians". OTOH, those who eat chicken or some other animal, claiming vegetarianism, I call "morons". :D That being said, I took the "no red meat" route before totally ditching animals as food (never really like fish; that part was easy).

(<--- ovo-lacto vegetarian)
 

notfred

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I don't know where you live, but here in California, every vegetarian I've met is an actual vegetartian, or even stricter (vegan, etc).
 

MaxDSP

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I've got the opposite problem...when people find out I'm a vegetarian, they ask "So you don't eat fish? Chicken? etc?" I dont know how the meaning of vegetarian became "one who does not consume red meat"...I take it to mean "a person that does not eat food which was once a living animal" or something

Only things I do eat/drink that might be considered non-vegetarian by some are dairy products and occasionally eggs
 

Schrodinger

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Originally posted by: Howard
Did you, perchance, ask her if she was a lesbian?

EDIT: Pork is red meat.

Pork is the "other white meat". Sure its red after being cured, smoked and glazed with honey but is it normally red/dark? I don't think so. Could be wrong, but I never thought pork was red meat.
 

dderidex

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Originally posted by: Bootprint

semi or partial vegetarian: avoids red meat only

ovo-lacto-vegetarian: avoids meat, seafood and poultry, but does consume milk products and eggs

lacto-vegetarian: avoids meat, seafood and poultry and eggs, but does consume milk products

ovo-vegetarian: avoids meat, seafood and poultry and milk products, but does consume eggs

vegan: avoids all foods that contain animal products, including meat, seafood and poultry, milk products and eggs

So they could say that they were semi-vegetarian.

Quoted for truth.

I'm guessing you guys don't have any "organic food markets" in your area? 'Wild Oats' is a national chain like that.

The above distinction is VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKE. And another step is that for each of the above 'diets' - to include the red meat eaters - you have the "organic only" and the 'regular' diets. "Organic" food being that which is 'naturally raised' - essentially not mass produced, no pesticides or hormones used, etc. (FWIW, my wife prefers 'organic' because of all the natural/holistic/whatever angle. I actually don't mind as it - meats, breads, veggies, etc - really is QUITE a bit tastier than mass produced foods.)
Originally posted by: Schrodinger
Funny thing is that she was like 300lbs. (Side note: most vegetarians I've ran into, both proclaimed and the real deal always seem overweight, unhealthy and pale as hell)

Again - I'm *guessing* you guys don't have any organic food markets in your area.

Lots and lots and lots of very skinny, healthy looking chics. They'd look better in MAKEUP, granted, but...meh, still hot.
 

SandInMyShoes

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Yeah, this issue pissses me off to no end. Semi-vegetarianism is like semi-virginity. "But a rear delivery doesn't count!"

Seriously. How is fish and chicken NOT meat?
 

Schrodinger

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Originally posted by: pacmanfan
Yeah, this issue pissses me off to no end. Semi-vegetarianism is like semi-virginity. "But a rear delivery doesn't count!"

Seriously. How is fish and chicken NOT meat?

Ahahahahah. Some people see fit to make a dozen categories (like the above). There isn't a halfway point about it as far as I'm concerned (either you like animals and their byproducts or not).
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: Schrodinger
Originally posted by: Howard
Did you, perchance, ask her if she was a lesbian?

EDIT: Pork is red meat.

Pork is the "other white meat". Sure its red after being cured, smoked and glazed with honey but is it normally red/dark? I don't think so. Could be wrong, but I never thought pork was red meat.
This is what pork meat looks like.

http://www.albertapork.com/con...s/cutchart/LoinRib.jpg

I suppose it's whitish after you cook it...
 

dderidex

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Originally posted by: Schrodinger
Originally posted by: pacmanfan
Yeah, this issue pissses me off to no end. Semi-vegetarianism is like semi-virginity. "But a rear delivery doesn't count!"

Seriously. How is fish and chicken NOT meat?

Ahahahahah. Some people see fit to make a dozen categories (like the above). There isn't a halfway point about it as far as I'm concerned (either you like animals and their byproducts or not).

That's like saying "You are either a Jesus-loving Republican or you hate your country". I suppose if you WERE a Jesus-loving Republican or you DID hate the country, then you'd agree with that statement.

For most of the population, though, they'd probably be more than a little offended by the statement.

The point is that there aren't the "black and whites" you seem to see. It's not "you are either vegan, or not vegetarian at all" - that's not true, there ARE varying types of vegetarianism.

Hell, if you lived in Oregon, California, or the New England states, you'd likely have *grown up* knowing what the differences were between them. Not my fault the middle of the country hasn't caught on yet...
 

shilala

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Nice choice on the steak. I like mine purple, just warmed on the edges. That'd make the bitch squirm.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: shilala
Nice choice on the steak. I like mine purple, just warmed on the edges. That'd make the bitch squirm.
Ah, yes, the delightful prospect of watching the blood flow from the cut. :D
 

Vic

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Natures Fresh Northwest was sooo much better than Wild Oats (who bought them out) it's not even funny.

Anyway, I *grew up* in Portland, and agree with (and knew of) everything you posted but I don't agree with the "semi-vegetarian" tag. IMO if you eat flesh, you should claim any part of the vegetarian tag.
 

n0cmonkey

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veg·e·tar·i·an·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vj-târ--nzm)
n.
The practice of subsisting on a diet composed primarily or wholly of vegetables, grains, fruits, nuts, and seeds, with or without eggs and dairy products.

Dictionary.com
 

dderidex

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Originally posted by: Vic
Natures Fresh Northwest was sooo much better than Wild Oats (who bought them out) it's not even funny.

Other chains with a similar theme:
Trader Joe's (I hear, never been there)
Mustard Seed
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
veg·e·tar·i·an·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vj-târ--nzm)
n.
The practice of subsisting on a diet composed primarily or wholly of vegetables, grains, fruits, nuts, and seeds, with or without eggs and dairy products.

Dictionary.com

Gee, you missed a definition:

Consisting primarily or wholly of vegetables and vegetable products: a vegetarian diet

 

piroroadkill

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Don't let anybody turn this into a vegetarian vs vegan vs omnivore and such thread, nobody cares what you had to eat.

As long as everyone agrees that the girl that the OP talks about is retarded, we're on common sense grounds.

Damn.