In response to the comment asking to remove this from the stickys I disagree, keep it up as there are a LOT of people out there who, unlike myself or I'd assume many of the long time members here (I'm brand new here, but not new to audio gear!) a lot of people who have no clue about the "white van speaker scam" and who are easily duped by the fancy LOOKING speakers, the similar names (I'd call my phony brand Klitsch!) and all of that PLUS this is getting a new lease on life on the net, besides occasionally seeing them on craigslist, there's a newer site that I won't name and not the one that came out years ago copying craigslist that apparently only lives on as "hooker central", not that one but one with much more picture content and that touts it being something like "a safer way" to buy/sell (so obviously they're trying to say "safer than craigslist" without actually saying that) but I sure as hell can't figure out how its safer and guess what, its been LOADED with the white van brands in the audio section at times, one Klitsch after another KMF or whatever and I've got to say to the unknowing buyer I'm sure it looks like a great speaker setup and boom! You got got!!
Two final comments:
-It looks like they're going for the "home theater speaker package" buyer these days, where years ago (I'm in early 40s, so like in the 80s or 90s) they'd usually always be selling a BIG pair of "bumpin speakers" and would often say things like "if you live in an apartment, you gotta be careful with these crazy speakers cuz they're loud as hell and wait till you feel that bumpin!!!" and you'd get some giant cabinet made of lower than low grade particle board with probably the crappiest 15 inch woofer ever made, a 1 dollar mid and a 1 dollar tweeter and instead of "feelin the bump" you got a giant fart noise machine! Now, I see one "7.1" after another, but no more giant bump machines.
-Lastly, as far as anyone talking about getting their money back due to "fraud", with the exception of something like the ebay auction mentioned where images from a real speaker brand were ripped off and used for these crap speakers, people have to take some personal responsibility here (and in many other things too, seems like we always need to seek help now to fix what are really our own dumb mistakes in all parts of life) if they're selling you a Klitsch setup and they say KLITSCH and not KLIPSCH and you give in to it and buy that junk without doing any homework because some fast talking slimeball has it down how to sell people junk for good money, that's your own fault, own up to it! I say that from personal experience having been an "underachiever" in many areas and I ALWAYS had someone else to blame, it was NEVER my fault. Well, my whole life took a good turn for the better when I finally one day began to own up to my own errors and not look to blame someone or seek redress from whoever to make up for my own sloppy mistakes. Its buyer beware out there and I couldn't live with myself selling people junk for good money but some people are just fine with it, so gotta CYA 24/7!!!