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PS2 vs. GC vs. X-Box
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MajesticMoose
Diamond Member
Yea but only the ps2 can be used for missle guidance🙂
m00se
m00se
Superior hardware is pretty much meaningless. Look at the NeoGeo and the 3DO. Microsoft has to give the XBox away, by that I mean sell them for under $300, if they want to get into the market. It really bothers me how they have not set a price on it yet. If the NV20 is going for over $500, how much are Microsoft getting the NV2A for, even at massive bulk discount? They are going to take a pretty big loss on each unit if they sell at $300. I know that's the plan but it's really going to kill them if this thing flops.
Oh well, we shall see how it shapes up in time.
Oh well, we shall see how it shapes up in time.
GameCube
* Nintendo has learned from its mistakes with the Nintendo64 and won't make them again
* The GameCube is the cheapest console of them all
* The GameCube will have games like Mario, Zelda etc. which will be enough reason for every Zelda/Mario/Wave Race fan to buy a GC.
* You can connect four controllers to the GC as default.
* The GC has no OS, so when you turn it on, it is instantly ready.
* The GC doesn't use cartridges, CD's or any other 'old' data-carrier, but instead uses DVD like disks that can carry more than 1 Gb of data, much more than the CD's the PS2 and the XBox will use.
* The GameCube is easy to design games for and those games won't need patches like games for the XBox and PS2 will.
* It is a real console: no OS, no HD, dedicated hardware, only for graphics and sound, and no time wasted with booting. Also: no BSOD's like with the XBox 😉
The choice is clear for me...
* Nintendo has learned from its mistakes with the Nintendo64 and won't make them again
* The GameCube is the cheapest console of them all
* The GameCube will have games like Mario, Zelda etc. which will be enough reason for every Zelda/Mario/Wave Race fan to buy a GC.
* You can connect four controllers to the GC as default.
* The GC has no OS, so when you turn it on, it is instantly ready.
* The GC doesn't use cartridges, CD's or any other 'old' data-carrier, but instead uses DVD like disks that can carry more than 1 Gb of data, much more than the CD's the PS2 and the XBox will use.
* The GameCube is easy to design games for and those games won't need patches like games for the XBox and PS2 will.
* It is a real console: no OS, no HD, dedicated hardware, only for graphics and sound, and no time wasted with booting. Also: no BSOD's like with the XBox 😉
The choice is clear for me...
ChrisIsBored
Diamond Member
PS2 = will have nearly 150 games released by time GC and X-Box are launched. Although the first wave of games were weak with the exception of SSX, Madden2k1, Tekken TT. March is the the start of the next wave of games. Wednesday much anticipated and highly graphic "The Bouncer" comes out. (Got mine pre-ordered) Along with Onimusha Warlords, and so many more I can't name right now...
If you can remember back when the first Playstation came out, pretty much all the games sucked the entire first YEAR.. then look what happened.
I think the GC will be the strongest competitor, but for a limited audience. Too many kiddy games. The reason why I returned my N64, the games suck. Unless your age is somewhere between 8-14 there won't be as many titles to your liking. (Unless you're a pokemon fan)
X-Box is gaining support by a few Japanese developers, others are in the wait and see mode. Personally I want MS to fail, but we'll see what happens at E3.
If you can remember back when the first Playstation came out, pretty much all the games sucked the entire first YEAR.. then look what happened.
I think the GC will be the strongest competitor, but for a limited audience. Too many kiddy games. The reason why I returned my N64, the games suck. Unless your age is somewhere between 8-14 there won't be as many titles to your liking. (Unless you're a pokemon fan)
X-Box is gaining support by a few Japanese developers, others are in the wait and see mode. Personally I want MS to fail, but we'll see what happens at E3.
Woo!! I still gots my Saturn, baby!!! Too bad it had to go.. blah. As far as March Madness, I go for Duke.. they seem pretty determined to take it this year.. that NC and Duke game was crazy this past Saturday! As far as those three consoles, I don't really care. I don't even play my DC any more! Whatta shame Sega had to cut production of it. It had everything going for it: high speed internet, 3rd party developers, easy to program for, great games from Sega themselves which can only be rivaled by Nintendo, and it's damn cheap right now! XBox == good in US, bad in Japan. If it doesn't have the support of Japanese game developers and can only port over PC games, then XBox be doomed. PS2 looks cool, but the initial games suck. The controls also suck. Best damn controllers were the Japanese Saturn control pads. 6-button with two trigger buttons on top for fighting games and all other games. If they were smart and put some analog sticks on it and ported that controller over to the DC, it would've rocked! Gamecube looks delicious and yummy and Apple-ish. Don't know if that's a good or bad thing. Dayam I wrote a lot! Laters!
stonerdave
Golden Member
I think Perfect Dark's sequel is rumored for the Gamecube.
Elledan:
>> Nintendo has learned from its mistakes with the Nintendo64 and won't make them again
True, hopefully
>> The GameCube is the cheapest console of them all
True
>> The GameCube will have games like Mario, Zelda etc. which will be enough reason for every Zelda/Mario/Wave Race fan to >>buy a GC.
True, but the same can be said about the Playstation 2, and all the Squaresoft fans.
>> You can connect four controllers to the GC as default.
True, I am kinda pissed about my PS2 only having two controllers.
>> The GC has no OS, so when you turn it on, it is instantly ready.
Huh? I don't think that an OS will be holding back any of these consoles, particularly the PS2 and GC. Will the Xbox be using a version of WinCE, like the dreamcast does (I think)? If so, then the OS won't be too much of a factor there, either.
>> The GC doesn't use cartridges, CD's or any other 'old' data-carrier, but instead uses DVD like disks that can carry more >>than 1 Gb of data, much more than the CD's the PS2 and the XBox will use.
Sorry, but wrong. The Xbox and PS2 both use DVD's, which are over twice as big as the proprietary discs that the GC will use. Plus, I know the PS2 plays DVD movies, and I'm pretty sure the Xbox will, as well.
>>The GameCube is easy to design games for and those games won't need patches like games for the XBox and PS2 will.
Probably true about the game design. Let's hope they learned from the N64. We'll see as more games come out how difficult it really is to develop for the PS2 and Xbox. As far as patches, what are you smoking? Again, I don't know enough about the Xbox to say for sure whether or not any games will require patches, but I have yet to hear of a console game that has required patches, on ANY system. Maybe you can enlighten us. 🙂
>> It is a real console: no OS, no HD, dedicated hardware, only for graphics and sound, and no time wasted with booting. >>Also: no BSOD's like with the XBox
About the "real" console thing, I think all of these are "real" consoles. And again, we can't speak for the Xbox (or the GC, for that matter) since it isn't out yet, but I don't think that an OS will be holding back any of these systems.
The only thing about the Xbox that worries me is the hard drive. With all the moving and carrying around of consoles that people do, the Xbox's hard drive worries me. It just seems too easy to jostle it around and break something in there.
All that said, I'm pretty happy with my PS2 purchase. I can play fun games, and I have a built-in DVD player. There are great games coming out (Final Fantasy), and I also have a legion of PSOne games to choose from when playing games. I don't think I'll be getting the Xbox or the GC.
>> Nintendo has learned from its mistakes with the Nintendo64 and won't make them again
True, hopefully
>> The GameCube is the cheapest console of them all
True
>> The GameCube will have games like Mario, Zelda etc. which will be enough reason for every Zelda/Mario/Wave Race fan to >>buy a GC.
True, but the same can be said about the Playstation 2, and all the Squaresoft fans.
>> You can connect four controllers to the GC as default.
True, I am kinda pissed about my PS2 only having two controllers.
>> The GC has no OS, so when you turn it on, it is instantly ready.
Huh? I don't think that an OS will be holding back any of these consoles, particularly the PS2 and GC. Will the Xbox be using a version of WinCE, like the dreamcast does (I think)? If so, then the OS won't be too much of a factor there, either.
>> The GC doesn't use cartridges, CD's or any other 'old' data-carrier, but instead uses DVD like disks that can carry more >>than 1 Gb of data, much more than the CD's the PS2 and the XBox will use.
Sorry, but wrong. The Xbox and PS2 both use DVD's, which are over twice as big as the proprietary discs that the GC will use. Plus, I know the PS2 plays DVD movies, and I'm pretty sure the Xbox will, as well.
>>The GameCube is easy to design games for and those games won't need patches like games for the XBox and PS2 will.
Probably true about the game design. Let's hope they learned from the N64. We'll see as more games come out how difficult it really is to develop for the PS2 and Xbox. As far as patches, what are you smoking? Again, I don't know enough about the Xbox to say for sure whether or not any games will require patches, but I have yet to hear of a console game that has required patches, on ANY system. Maybe you can enlighten us. 🙂
>> It is a real console: no OS, no HD, dedicated hardware, only for graphics and sound, and no time wasted with booting. >>Also: no BSOD's like with the XBox
About the "real" console thing, I think all of these are "real" consoles. And again, we can't speak for the Xbox (or the GC, for that matter) since it isn't out yet, but I don't think that an OS will be holding back any of these systems.
The only thing about the Xbox that worries me is the hard drive. With all the moving and carrying around of consoles that people do, the Xbox's hard drive worries me. It just seems too easy to jostle it around and break something in there.
All that said, I'm pretty happy with my PS2 purchase. I can play fun games, and I have a built-in DVD player. There are great games coming out (Final Fantasy), and I also have a legion of PSOne games to choose from when playing games. I don't think I'll be getting the Xbox or the GC.
<< The GC has no OS, so when you turn it on, it is instantly ready.>>
Huh? I don't think that an OS will be holding back any of these consoles, particularly the PS2 and GC. Will the Xbox be using a version of WinCE, like the dreamcast does (I think)? If so, then the OS won't be too much of a factor there, either.>>
The XBox will be using a stripped version of Windows 2000.
I don't know about the DC, but the XBox will require time to boot, just like a PC (which it actually is, is uses 'standard' PC-parts).
<< The GC doesn't use cartridges, CD's or any other 'old' data-carrier, but instead uses DVD like disks that can carry more >>than 1 Gb of data, much more than the CD's the PS2 and the XBox will use.>>
Sorry, but wrong. The Xbox and PS2 both use DVD's, which are over twice as big as the proprietary discs that the GC will use. Plus, I know the PS2 plays DVD movies, and I'm pretty sure the Xbox will, as well.>>
Admitted, the XBox and PS2 can use DVD's (although the XBox requires you to buy an extra piece of equipment to 'enable' this function), but what's the use of playing DVD movies on a console? From what I've seen, the quality of the movies using the PS2 isn't really spectacular, you can better buy a real DVD player.
FYI: the games for the PS2 and XBox will first only be on normal CD-roms, it'll take some time before the first games on DVD will hit the market.
<<The GameCube is easy to design games for and those games won't need patches like games for the XBox and PS2 will.>>
Probably true about the game design. Let's hope they learned from the N64. We'll see as more games come out how difficult it really is to develop for the PS2 and Xbox. As far as patches, what are you smoking? Again, I don't know enough about the Xbox to say for sure whether or not any games will require patches, but I have yet to hear of a console game that has required patches, on ANY system. Maybe you can enlighten us.>>
With a console that has no HD, all the games must be working, without any serious bugs. But since the XBox requires you to install games, patches will be the next logical step. Just like with games on a PC.
It's actually nothing new, M$ just created a stripped down PC with a stripped down version of Win2k on it and sells it as being a game-console, but since in its core it's just an ordinary PC, you'll have to install games and have the 'possibility' to upgrade/patch it.
Without a HD, or a 'real' OS like WinCE/2k/Linux, the GameCube is the only console which will come close to all previous brought out consoles, while the DC, PS2 and XBox are some kind of hybrid-console/PC's.
Huh? I don't think that an OS will be holding back any of these consoles, particularly the PS2 and GC. Will the Xbox be using a version of WinCE, like the dreamcast does (I think)? If so, then the OS won't be too much of a factor there, either.>>
The XBox will be using a stripped version of Windows 2000.
I don't know about the DC, but the XBox will require time to boot, just like a PC (which it actually is, is uses 'standard' PC-parts).
<< The GC doesn't use cartridges, CD's or any other 'old' data-carrier, but instead uses DVD like disks that can carry more >>than 1 Gb of data, much more than the CD's the PS2 and the XBox will use.>>
Sorry, but wrong. The Xbox and PS2 both use DVD's, which are over twice as big as the proprietary discs that the GC will use. Plus, I know the PS2 plays DVD movies, and I'm pretty sure the Xbox will, as well.>>
Admitted, the XBox and PS2 can use DVD's (although the XBox requires you to buy an extra piece of equipment to 'enable' this function), but what's the use of playing DVD movies on a console? From what I've seen, the quality of the movies using the PS2 isn't really spectacular, you can better buy a real DVD player.
FYI: the games for the PS2 and XBox will first only be on normal CD-roms, it'll take some time before the first games on DVD will hit the market.
<<The GameCube is easy to design games for and those games won't need patches like games for the XBox and PS2 will.>>
Probably true about the game design. Let's hope they learned from the N64. We'll see as more games come out how difficult it really is to develop for the PS2 and Xbox. As far as patches, what are you smoking? Again, I don't know enough about the Xbox to say for sure whether or not any games will require patches, but I have yet to hear of a console game that has required patches, on ANY system. Maybe you can enlighten us.>>
With a console that has no HD, all the games must be working, without any serious bugs. But since the XBox requires you to install games, patches will be the next logical step. Just like with games on a PC.
It's actually nothing new, M$ just created a stripped down PC with a stripped down version of Win2k on it and sells it as being a game-console, but since in its core it's just an ordinary PC, you'll have to install games and have the 'possibility' to upgrade/patch it.
Without a HD, or a 'real' OS like WinCE/2k/Linux, the GameCube is the only console which will come close to all previous brought out consoles, while the DC, PS2 and XBox are some kind of hybrid-console/PC's.
StageLeft
No Lifer
Elledan is right - although regarding DVD play on PS2 - yes you can get a better standalone DVd player for a lot of money. From what I can tell personally and have heard from others and the review at sharky extreme for the average person with a decent TV (not top of the line) and stereo system the PS2 is adequate to bring such a setup to look as good as it can. Afterall there is no point in having a $600 stand alone if you have a crappy TV and the impression I have is that a PS2 is not the weak point for DVd on the average person's home setup. I know that I personally have no intention whatsoever in purchasing a standalone now that I have a PS2.
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