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SP33Demon

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"moderate" holds no discernible relevance in a party that voted in very large numbers for Donald Fucking Trump. Anyone that supports this proven fascist has no business calling themselves a moderate. The GOP has not been a majority moderate party since well before New Gingrich.

If your immediate response is to yet again repeat: "Yeah, well thinking that is why you dems will lose again," then I repeat: It is not on dems to apologize to you for your lack of self-reflection. If you support Donald Trump, for any reason, but consider yourself a moderate, it is not an issue with the rest of the world and how they understand you--it's an issue with your fast and loose understanding of the world and your ever-sliding fall off the cliff of rational discourse.
Run someone better next time, because Trump wasn't the one who put in an entire team of Citibank marionettes into his cabinet (Obama). What is worse - putting in globalist bankers into all of our government positions or successful business owners?
 

Jhhnn

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Blame yourself, blame hillary's horrible statistical polling team, and create a PAC that can convince Reagan Democrats to come back to your party. Otherwise, talk is cheap. Trump did the legwork and had more intelligent higher-IQ people working with his campaign (e.g. Cambridge Analytica) so to the victor goes the spoils, and the victors get to write the history books - not the losers.

Don't forget Donald's clever Russian friends. He probably couldn't have done it w/o them, bless their hearts. They're only in it for the MAGA, I'm sure.
 

shortylickens

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Blame yourself, blame hillary's horrible statistical polling team, and create a PAC that can convince Reagan Democrats to come back to your party. Otherwise, talk is cheap. Trump did the legwork and had more intelligent higher-IQ people working with his campaign (e.g. Cambridge Analytica) so to the victor goes the spoils, and the victors get to write the history books - not the losers.

Who are you trying to convince?
 

ivwshane

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Run someone better next time, because Trump wasn't the one who put in an entire team of Citibank marionettes into his cabinet (Obama). What is worse - putting in globalist bankers into all of our government positions or successful business owners?

Are you trying to be funny? Because trump did put an entire team of Goldman Sachs on his cabinet.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/15/inv...an-trump-treasury-deputy-secretary/index.html

As far a successful business people go? Sure, if by successful you mean shady.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...history/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2d0e5c2794b1


Trump is the greatest president in the world...so long as you don't look at the actual facts or the details about the man and his cabinet members

Quite the cult you've joined there.
 
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SP33Demon

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Don't forget Donald's clever Russian friends. He probably couldn't have done it w/o them, bless their hearts. They're only in it for the MAGA, I'm sure.
Also be sure to include the Chinese, NK, Cuba, Venezuela, and a number of other bad actors who try to disrupt our country's elections. They won't be investigated but if you think they're not trying to/do hack our systems every day then I got news for you. We also fix elections in other countries. Remember Hillary talking about wanting to rig the elections in Palestine? lol. Right on tape:
https://youtu.be/w7U5linVC1U?t=116
 

SP33Demon

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Are you trying to be funny? Because trump did put an entire team of Goldman Sachs on his cabinet.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/15/inv...an-trump-treasury-deputy-secretary/index.html

As far a successful business people go? Sure, if by successful you mean shady.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...history/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2d0e5c2794b1


Trump is the greatest president in the world...so long as you don't look at the actual facts or the details about the man and his cabinet members

Quite the cult you've joined there.
Yes, he hired Donovan and Mnuchin who are qualified to run those positions, so? Wow, 2 people. Obama hired hundreds off of a list given to him by Citi according to WLeaks. Trump wasn't given a list of hundreds of people and given marching orders to turn our government into a bank. He vetted and hired two people who were the most qualified.
 

Jhhnn

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Also be sure to include the Chinese, NK, Cuba, Venezuela, and a number of other bad actors who try to disrupt our country's elections. They won't be investigated but if you think they're not trying to/do hack our systems every day then I got news for you. We also fix elections in other countries. Remember Hillary talking about wanting to rig the elections in Palestine? lol. Right on tape:
https://youtu.be/w7U5linVC1U?t=116

So what? Trumpsters are chumpsters for Russian psyops. Brains softened by decades of relentless GOP right wing agitprop are apparently easy targets. Utterly defenseless.
 

Jhhnn

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Yes, he hired Donovan and Mnuchin who are qualified to run those positions, so? Wow, 2 people. Obama hired hundreds off of a list given to him by Citi according to WLeaks. Trump wasn't given a list of hundreds of people and given marching orders to turn our government into a bank. He vetted and hired two people who were the most qualified.

Goalpost shifting, huh? That's not what you said the first time, nor is any of it accurate-


Trump wasn't the one who put in an entire team of Citibank marionettes into his cabinet (Obama)

Froman, the guy who wrote the list, is a longtime Obama advisor who also worked at Citi. Deep dark conspiracy not found, but you can believe there was one if you want.

https://newrepublic.com/article/137798/important-wikileaks-revelation-isnt-hillary-clinton
 

SP33Demon

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So what? Trumpsters are chumpsters for Russian psyops. Brains softened by decades of relentless GOP right wing agitprop are apparently easy targets. Utterly defenseless.
Oh brother. Yes, those 12 russians posting on social media from FL really did a number on the masses b/c Mueller indicted them! Wow, those 12 Russians really swung the election, omg!
 

SP33Demon

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Goalpost shifting, huh? That's not what you said the first time, nor is any of it accurate-




Froman, the guy who wrote the list, is a longtime Obama advisor who also worked at Citi. Deep dark conspiracy not found, but you can believe there was one if you want.

https://newrepublic.com/article/137798/important-wikileaks-revelation-isnt-hillary-clinton
From your own article:
"Michael Froman, who is now U.S. trade representative but at the time was an executive at Citigroup, wrote an email to Podesta on October 6, 2008, with the subject “Lists.” Froman used a Citigroup email address. He attached three documents: a list of women for top administration jobs, a list of non-white candidates, and a sample outline of 31 cabinet-level positions and who would fill them. “The lists will continue to grow,” Froman wrote to Podesta, “but these are the names to date that seem to be coming up as recommended by various sources for senior level jobs.”

The cabinet list ended up being almost entirely on the money. It correctly identified Eric Holder for the Justice Department, Janet Napolitano for Homeland Security, Robert Gates for Defense, Rahm Emanuel for chief of staff, Peter Orszag for the Office of Management and Budget, Arne Duncan for Education, Eric Shinseki for Veterans Affairs, Kathleen Sebelius for Health and Human Services, Melody Barnes for the Domestic Policy Council, and more. For the Treasury, three possibilities were on the list: Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, and Timothy Geithner."

So a citibank executive sent the email to Obama with a sample of 31 people, most of which were hired (and hired scores of other people), including the citibank executive. Riiiight. Why would a citibank exec be recommending cabinet positions to obama? Gee, I wonder why. Are you this blind? They obviously have ties to Citi.
 

ivwshane

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From your own article:
"Michael Froman, who is now U.S. trade representative but at the time was an executive at Citigroup, wrote an email to Podesta on October 6, 2008, with the subject “Lists.” Froman used a Citigroup email address. He attached three documents: a list of women for top administration jobs, a list of non-white candidates, and a sample outline of 31 cabinet-level positions and who would fill them. “The lists will continue to grow,” Froman wrote to Podesta, “but these are the names to date that seem to be coming up as recommended by various sources for senior level jobs.”

The cabinet list ended up being almost entirely on the money. It correctly identified Eric Holder for the Justice Department, Janet Napolitano for Homeland Security, Robert Gates for Defense, Rahm Emanuel for chief of staff, Peter Orszag for the Office of Management and Budget, Arne Duncan for Education, Eric Shinseki for Veterans Affairs, Kathleen Sebelius for Health and Human Services, Melody Barnes for the Domestic Policy Council, and more. For the Treasury, three possibilities were on the list: Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, and Timothy Geithner."

So a citibank executive sent the email to Obama with a sample of 31 people, most of which were hired (and hired scores of other people), including the citibank executive. Riiiight. Why would a citibank exec be recommending cabinet positions to obama? Gee, I wonder why. Are you this blind? They obviously have ties to Citi.

Wait, so Eric holder was a Citibank employee?! Shit you better alert the presses! The guy whose career included prosecuting a Democrat for bribery, being appointed as a DC judge by Ronald FUCKING Reagan, worked for Citibank?

Look out guys sp33didiot found some real crazy shit! A sitting president actually took advice from his advisor!! Why I never!

Wow its almost like you pulled your concern from the same place you get all of your facts from, your ass!
 

SP33Demon

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Wait, so Eric holder was a Citibank employee?! Shit you better alert the presses! The guy whose career included prosecuting a Democrat for bribery, being appointed as a DC judge by Ronald FUCKING Reagan, worked for Citibank?

Look out guys sp33didiot found some real crazy shit! A sitting president actually took advice from his advisor!! Why I never!

Wow its almost like you pulled your concern from the same place you get all of your facts from, your ass!
Yup, he was Citi-approved, just like a credit card. You don't end up on Citi's list before being vetted by them. Citi told obama who to put in his cabinet and he did it.
 

trenchfoot

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Blame yourself, blame hillary's horrible statistical polling team, and create a PAC that can convince Reagan Democrats to come back to your party. Otherwise, talk is cheap. Trump did the legwork and had more intelligent higher-IQ people working with his campaign (e.g. Cambridge Analytica) so to the victor goes the spoils, and the victors get to write the history books - not the losers.

Allow me to start off by mentioning that Trump beat Hillary the very same way he beat all of the other Repubs that were in the running. Hillary is in very distinguished company with her loss to Trump.

Trump won his primary and the general by blustering and lying a whole lot more and at a level that his competition wouldn't dare go to. He made promises any sane person knew was impossible to keep, like making Mexico pay for his (their) wall. He got/gets away with his incessant lying because he's convinced enough voters/supporters that his lying, his childish assaults against his competition/enemies, his acrimonious sarcastically laced innuendo, (birtherism anyone?) his adulterous lifestyle, his financial difficulties and his many financial dealings with the Russians were things that should be totally ignored in favor of the false promises he made and the hate/fear he cultivated in those who were/are strangely attracted to such vapid rhetoric.

He surely didn't run on policy, or factual reasoning where any of his competitors would eat him up alive. He ran on stirring the emotions of a demographic, making them angry, making them wanting to look for and then hang all of their grievances on the victim of Trump's choosing. He ran a campaign that involved hate and fear, jingoisms and absolutely not on anything of substance that could actually benefit the middle class and the poor, but rather what he could actually get away with lying about. And since he can now get away with lying about anything and everything he can think of there's no limit to what he can get away with as far as what his base will allow him to. For example, he's convinced his base that Putin of all people "is a fine man".

I mean, all anybody has to do is compare those many grandiose promises he made to the working class and what he's actually done for them in a positive meaningful way and then compare that with those bountiful money grabbing tax cuts and write-offs he's given himself and his fellow aristocrats from the donor class.

I understand that you're committed to Trump and I don't personally hold that against anyone who does. I have close friends that support Trump for a single reason or another but I just can't ignore, as they do, the many damaging things Trump has already done to the nation and how he has failed to make good on those promises he made to the working class that involved improving in any meaningful and lasting way their quality of life and their prospects for a better future for themselves.

What he has given his supporters for the most part has nothing of what I just previously mentioned, but very much so in the way of those many emotionally driven issues that he keeps front and center in their minds such as stopping those murderous rapist brown illegals from crossing our borders, tacitly supporting the racists, Nazi's and KKK groups that and most of all, defending the nation against those evil godless Democrats who would freely open our borders "like Obama did" to any and all of those "murderous latino gang members that rape and terrorize Americans" any time they wish.

edit - apologies for stringing this post out - I had the time and the notion to do it so..... ;)
 

fskimospy

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Yes, he hired Donovan and Mnuchin who are qualified to run those positions, so? Wow, 2 people. Obama hired hundreds off of a list given to him by Citi according to WLeaks. Trump wasn't given a list of hundreds of people and given marching orders to turn our government into a bank. He vetted and hired two people who were the most qualified.

‘He didn’t hire a bunch of globalist bankers!’

—is informed that Trump hired a bunch of globalist bankers—

‘Yeah but they were the good ones!’

This is why conservative politicians and conservative media have such complete contempt for your intelligence. You will buy anything they’re selling and they know it.
 

Moonbeam

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Allow me to start off by mentioning that Trump beat Hillary the very same way he beat all of the other Repubs that were in the running. Hillary is in very distinguished company with her loss to Trump.

Trump won his primary and the general by blustering and lying a whole lot more and at a level that his competition wouldn't dare go to. He made promises any sane person knew was impossible to keep, like making Mexico pay for his (their) wall. He got/gets away with his incessant lying because he's convinced enough voters/supporters that his lying, his childish assaults against his competition/enemies, his acrimonious sarcastically laced innuendo, (birtherism anyone?) his adulterous lifestyle, his financial difficulties and his many financial dealings with the Russians were things that should be totally ignored in favor of the false promises he made and the hate/fear he cultivated in those who were/are strangely attracted to such vapid rhetoric.

He surely didn't run on policy, or factual reasoning where any of his competitors would eat him up alive. He ran on stirring the emotions of a demographic, making them angry, making them wanting to look for and then hang all of their grievances on the victim of Trump's choosing. He ran a campaign that involved hate and fear, jingoisms and absolutely not on anything of substance that could actually benefit the middle class and the poor, but rather what he could actually get away with lying about. And since he can now get away with lying about anything and everything he can think of there's no limit to what he can get away with as far as what his base will allow him to. For example, he's convinced his base that Putin of all people "is a fine man".

I mean, all anybody has to do is compare those many grandiose promises he made to the working class and what he's actually done for them in a positive meaningful way and then compare that with those bountiful money grabbing tax cuts and write-offs he's given himself and his fellow aristocrats from the donor class.

I understand that you're committed to Trump and I don't personally hold that against anyone who does. I have close friends that support Trump for a single reason or another but I just can't ignore, as they do, the many damaging things Trump has already done to the nation and how he has failed to make good on those promises he made to the working class that involved improving in any meaningful and lasting way their quality of life and their prospects for a better future for themselves.

What he has given his supporters for the most part has nothing of what I just previously mentioned, but very much so in the way of those many emotionally driven issues that he keeps front and center in their minds such as stopping those murderous rapist brown illegals from crossing our borders, tacitly supporting the racists, Nazi's and KKK groups that and most of all, defending the nation against those evil godless Democrats who would freely open our borders "like Obama did" to any and all of those "murderous latino gang members that rape and terrorize Americans" any time they wish.

edit - apologies for stringing this post out - I had the time and the notion to do it so..... ;)
Really, you are going to apologize for this? I have been struggling to even find any words for what I experienced. Closest I can get is Di Vinci apologizing for the Mona Lisa.
 
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Younigue

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2 years to send Breyer and Ginsburg a Stay Well card.
Go the fu*k away you diseased, heinous, loathsome, ugly, hate beast!

You're so fu*king stupid you don't even see the problem in your previous comment. They don't get the popular vote because you sick fu*king republicans/conservatives have unpopular (hate filled) agendas. Geezuz you're just too fu*king stupid!
 
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fskimospy

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Go the fu*k away you diseased, heinous, loathsome, ugly, hate beast!

You're so fu*king stupid you don't even see the problem in your previous comment. They don't get the popular vote because you sick fu*king republicans/conservatives have unpopular (hate filled) agendas. Geezuz you're just too fu*king stupid!

This is very true. If you look at the Republican governing agenda it is highly unpopular. It’s not even popular among Republicans. That’s why Republicans go all in on identity politics.
 
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Go the fu*k away you diseased, heinous, loathsome, ugly, hate beast!

You're so fu*king stupid you don't even see the problem in your previous comment. They don't get the popular vote because you sick fu*king republicans/conservatives have unpopular (hate filled) agendas. Geezuz you're just too fu*king stupid!
Bless you in your fight against Trump Derangement Syndrome. You have my prayers for an eventual recovery.
 

Jhhnn

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Does Pruitt get to keep the soundproof booth, the bulletproof desk & the bulletproof SUV?

Inquiring minds want to know...