Proposed rule canges for NFL... WTF????

[Proprioceptive]

W... T... F...????

ILLEGAL HITS
NFL to be more aggressive with suspensions for illegal hits next season. Rules defining defenseless players expanded to eight categories:

• QB in act of throwing
• Receiver trying to catch pass
• Runner in grasp with forward progress stopped
• Player fielding punt or kickoff
• Kicker or punter during kick
• QB after change of possession
• Receiver who receives blind-side block
• Player already on ground

KICKOFF CHANGES?
• Competition committee will propose moving kickoff to 35-yard line, and bringing touchback out to 25. No changes for touchbacks on any other plays, with ball coming out to 20.
• No player other than kicker would be allowed to line up more than 5 yards behind ball.
• Outlawing wedge on kickoffs; all blocking wedges were reduced to two players in 2009.

REPLAY CHANGES?
• Committee will propose making all scoring plays reviewable. Replay official would order replays on any touchdowns, field goals, safeties and extra points without the coaches needing to challenge. Similar to current system for final two minutes of each half and overtime.
• Eliminating third coach's challenge if he is successful on first two.

NFL SCHEDULE
NFL plans to release regular-season schedule in mid-April, despite current work stoppage.

NO-GO
There will be no "Calvin Johnson rule" proposal on what is a catch.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6223700

 

[child of wonder]

Oh golly goodness gee willickers!!!!!! We can't let those mean old men touch the quarterback or kicker!

Goodness gracious!!!

 

[Patranus]

Wow. Terrible.

 

[Proprioceptive]

Oh golly goodness gee willickers!!!!!! We can't let those mean old men touch the quarterback or kicker!

Goodness gracious!!!

Yeah... you can't hit the quarterback in the process of throwing?? So I guess this means that QBs can just do pump fakes the whole time and if they get tackled in the process, the defender will always get penalized... absolutely retarded.

 

[rcpratt]

I'm trying to find something they got right.

Nope.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Proposed...

 

[Proprioceptive]

Proposed...

Just because they're "proposed" doesn't make them any less stupid... hell, even just "proposing" them is asinine.

 

[Soccerman06]

W... T... F...????

ILLEGAL HITS
NFL to be more aggressive with suspensions for illegal hits next season. Rules defining defenseless players expanded to eight categories:

• QB in act of throwing
• Receiver trying to catch pass
• Runner in grasp with forward progress stopped
• Player fielding punt or kickoff
• Kicker or punter during kick
• QB after change of possession
• Receiver who receives blind-side block
• Player already on ground

KICKOFF CHANGES?
• Competition committee will propose moving kickoff to 35-yard line, and bringing touchback out to 25. No changes for touchbacks on any other plays, with ball coming out to 20.
• No player other than kicker would be allowed to line up more than 5 yards behind ball.
• Outlawing wedge on kickoffs; all blocking wedges were reduced to two players in 2009.

REPLAY CHANGES?
• Committee will propose making all scoring plays reviewable. Replay official would order replays on any touchdowns, field goals, safeties and extra points without the coaches needing to challenge. Similar to current system for final two minutes of each half and overtime.
• Eliminating third coach's challenge if he is successful on first two.

NFL SCHEDULE
NFL plans to release regular-season schedule in mid-April, despite current work stoppage.

NO-GO
There will be no "Calvin Johnson rule" proposal on what is a catch.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6223700

I can understand people not wanting to play now, fucking ridiculous rules are killing the sport, LET THE MEN PLAY. Some of those are ok and should be in there, like not hitting the player on the ground and hitting when forward progress has stopped, but others are just dumb.

 

[The_Dude8]

i thought there won't be a nfl season this year.

 

[sactoking]

W... T... F...????

ILLEGAL HITS
NFL to be more aggressive with suspensions for illegal hits next season. Rules defining defenseless players expanded to eight categories:

• QB in act of throwing
• Receiver trying to catch pass
• Runner in grasp with forward progress stopped
• Player fielding punt or kickoff
• Kicker or punter during kick
• QB after change of possession
• Receiver who receives blind-side block
• Player already on ground

This is for illegal hits, like to the head. If you lead with your helmet and pop a QB in the chin while he's throwing (which was already a penalty) you'll get suspended instead of fined. This does not mean hitting a QB while throwing is now a penalty.

KICKOFF CHANGES?
• Competition committee will propose moving kickoff to 35-yard line, and bringing touchback out to 25. No changes for touchbacks on any other plays, with ball coming out to 20.
• No player other than kicker would be allowed to line up more than 5 yards behind ball.
• Outlawing wedge on kickoffs; all blocking wedges were reduced to two players in 2009.

A bit over-the-top, but understandable. Something like 40% of all injuries occur on kickoff/return. By changing the kick location and TB rule, there will be more touchbacks, fewer returns, and fewer injuries. Less exciting overall, but safer. Same with reducing the distance coverage players run pre-kickoff and eliminating group blocking.

REPLAY CHANGES?
• Committee will propose making all scoring plays reviewable. Replay official would order replays on any touchdowns, field goals, safeties and extra points without the coaches needing to challenge. Similar to current system for final two minutes of each half and overtime.
• Eliminating third coach's challenge if he is successful on first two.

Wouldn't be surprised if most replay challenges occur on scoring plays. You take away a general challenge but make all scores replayed. Wouldn't be surprised if it's a wash. Of course, that doesn't change the fact that the NFL's replay system is HORRIBLE. Seriously, hire 16 reasonably intelligent people, give them the broadcast feed, and they could literally replay every down before the next snap.

NFL SCHEDULE
NFL plans to release regular-season schedule in mid-April, despite current work stoppage.

Whatever

NO-GO
There will be no "Calvin Johnson rule" proposal on what is a catch.

This is stupid. The rule is terrible and not applied consistently. It desperately needs to be changed.

 

[Patranus]

i thought there won't be a nfl season this year.

That doesn't mean they cannot fuck up the rules any more than they have in the last 3 years.

 

[ElFenix]

we should outlaw the forward pass and helmets. real men played that way, and if it was good enough for them, it's good enough for us. grrrrr!

 

[thegimp03]

Pretty soon the QB will get to wear their practice uniforms in games so they can't be tackled/hit.

 

[joesmoke]

we should outlaw the forward pass and helmets. real men played that way, and if it was good enough for them, it's good enough for us. grrrrr!

now if only somebody would deal with the foppery going on in the boxing ring! padded hands?! 15 rounds?! real men fight bare-knuckle for as many rounds as it takes to relieve the opponent of his life force! the truest of sports!

 

[The Boston Dangler]

perhaps no football is better

 

[wheresmybacon]

Coming soon to a Sunday near you: the NFL goes from tackle to touch.

Stupid stupid stupid

 

[sactoking]

The lack of understanding in this thread WRT "illegal hits" is astounding.

 

[ShawnD1]

now if only somebody would deal with the foppery going on in the boxing ring! padded hands?! 15 rounds?! real men fight bare-knuckle for as many rounds as it takes to relieve the opponent of his life force! the truest of sports!

The original purpose of wearing gloves was so the boxers could punch to the head without breaking their hand

 

[Proprioceptive]

The lack of understanding in this thread WRT "illegal hits" is astounding.

Hits to defenseless players ARE illegal hits... therefore, expanding categories in regards to the above will establish players as defenseless, thus making hits to them illegal.... sooooo... either the article is wrong or our understanding is perfectly fine.

 

[joesmoke]

The original purpose of wearing gloves was so the boxers could punch to the head without breaking their hand

so... they implemented a change... for the safety and longevity of the competitors?

 

[darkswordsman17]

so... they implemented a change... for the safety and longevity of the competitors?

The problem there is that its actually had the opposite results. Now, instead of someone messing their hands up (and so giving them incentive to not go to the head), they're actually beating the shit out of each others' brains.

As for the original topic, the only two parts I'm confused about are:

Receiver who receives blind-side block

Er...? Receiver getting blocked? Do they mean giving? I can only guess this is aimed at Hines Ward's infamous blocks.

Eliminating third coach's challenge if he is successful on first two.

They're going to punish the coach for being right/the refs fucking up?

 

[sactoking]

Hits to defenseless players ARE illegal hits... therefore, expanding categories in regards to the above will establish players as defenseless, thus making hits to them illegal.... sooooo... either the article is wrong or our understanding is perfectly fine.

How about "None of the above"?

The listed items, 8 in all, are already illegal in certain circumstances. The proposed rule would change the penalty for such an illegal hit in those circumstances from a fine to a suspension. The proposed rule would not expand the circumstances in which a hit would be considered illegal.

Currently, if you hit a QB in the head or below the knee while the QB is dropped back to pass that is an illegal hit subject to a fine. If you hit a QB from the shoulder to above the knee while the QB is dropped back to pass or pretty much anywhere, including below the knee or in the head, while the QB is running it is not an illegal hit.

Under the proposed rule if you hit a QB in the head or below the knee while the QB is dropped back to pass that will be an illegal hit subject to a suspension. If you hit a QB from the shoulder to above the knee while the QB is dropped back to pass or pretty much anywhere, including below the knee or in the head, while the QB is running it will continue to not be an illegal hit.

Everyone here is acting like hitting the QB while passing under any circumstance will now be a penalty. That is not the case; the legal hits remain legal and the illegal hits just get a stiffer penalty.

So, the article isn't wrong and your understanding isn't perfectly fine.

 

[OCGuy]

Holy shit this is bad.

 

[sactoking]

Er...? Receiver getting blocked? Do they mean giving? I can only guess this is aimed at Hines Ward's infamous blocks.

I think they mean "Defender who receives a blind-side block". That's aimed at cutting down on blind-side crackback blocks WRs like Ward were famous for using against OLBs and safeties in the box.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Time to just change it to the NFFL. National Flag Football League.