Propaganda Handbook

kylebisme

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I just recently stumbled across this Hasbara Handbook ("hasbara" being Hebrew for "explanation"). Here are some highlights from one section:

Propaganda is used by those who want to communicate in ways that engage the emotions, and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote a certain message. To effectively present Israel to the public, and to counter anti-Israel messages, it is necessary to understand propaganda devices.

Name Calling

...Creating negative connotations by name calling is done to try and get the audience to reject a person or idea on the basis of negative associations, without allowing a real examination of that person or idea. ...

Testimonial

Testimonial means enlisting the support of somebody admired or famous to endorse an ideal or campaign. Testimonial can be used reasonably ... or manipulated... Whilst everybody is entitled to an opinion, testimonial can lend weight to an argument that it doesn't deserve...

Enlisting celebrity support for Israel can help to persuade people that Israel is a great country. ... A celebrity doesn't have to fully support Israel to be useful. Quotes can work as testimonial, even when they might be old or out of context.

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If celebrity support for Palestinian causes goes beyond humanitarian issues to the political, consider coordinating an organized protest. Most celebrities will care more about their public image than they do about the Middle East. Threats of tainting a celebrity's image will usually persuade them to back away from controversial political issues.

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Fear

... Listeners have deep-seated fears of violence and disorder, which can be tapped into by creating false dichotomies - 'either listen to me, or these terrible things will happen'. Listeners are too preoccupied by the threat of terrible things to think critically about the speaker's message.

Bandwagon

Most people, when in doubt, are happy to do what other people are doing. ... often it is possible to create the impression of extensive support - through gathering all supporters in one place, or through poorly conducted opinion polls - in an attempt to persuade people who are keen to follow the crowd.

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Much of the methods are actually adapted from pre-WWII era research conducted by the Institute for Propaganda Analysis. Of course Zionists are far from the only ones pushing their ideology though propaganda, and I hope people will take the time to investagate the methods of propoganda to better aviod being mislead by in in general. Propoganda Critic provides some guidence in that regard, as well as some notable histocial examples.

That said I highly recommended reading though Hasbara Handbook to understand the means by which the US public is mislead to rally public support for Israel's conquest over Palestine. It is a bit dated, suggesting all blame be shifted to the now dead Arafat rather than Hamas, but that historical context also does well to shed light on how the same propaganda methods are being employed to sway public opinion in the US away from supporting the peaceful resolution to the Israel/Palestine conflict which the vast majority of the rest of the world has been backing for decades now.

Anyway, I encourage others to post whatever propaganda methods and examples of them being applied you like, be it related to the Israel/Palestine conflict or otherwise, in the hopes of promoting more rational discussion in this form and elsewhere.
 

Atreus21

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Unless you can demonstrate that the vast majority of media outlets are cooperatively lying to us about who the suicide bombers are, I'm still voting for Israel. I don't hate palestinians. I hate Hamas.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: Atreus21
Unless you can demonstrate that the vast majority of media outlets are cooperatively lying to us about who the suicide bombers are, I'm still voting for Israel. I don't hate palestinians. I hate Hamas.

Why would you ask me to support a claim I never made? I don't support any attacks on civilians, be those of Hamas or the Israeli military. That is why I don't "vote" for one side or the other, but rather stand by the vast majority of the rest of the world who have long been wanting to persuade both sides into a real two-state solution. Unfortunately, as the sole superpower, our government holds the power to vote the world's will down.

That said, I can demonstrate many ways our corporate media cooperatively misleads the public though selective reporting if you like. Here a humorous moment they let someone who knows what he is talking about slip though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mk18af8z9Y

Also note that the woman laughing her head off is Mika Brzezinski, Zbigniew Brzezinski's daughter, and she is obviously overcome with the humor of Joe Scarborough getting put in his place by her father.
 

First

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Anyone using the term zionist automatically gets put in the loony bin along with 9/11 Truthers. To even pretend there is a moral equivalence between Hamas and Israel really doesn't deserve the time of day. How many Israeli suicide bombers are attacking, say, Lebanese women and children on a daily basis? Yeah, woops.
 

cubby1223

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
I just recently stumbled across this Hasbara Handbook ("hasbara" being Hebrew for "explanation"). Here are some highlights from one section:

You read that entire thing? Wow! Or did you take some lunatic's "critique" on the subject?
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: Evan
Anyone using the term zionist automatically gets put in the loony bin...

Wow, you revel in willful ignorance more than I ever suspected. Try a dictionary:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/zionist

Or for more detailed information on the movement, try the Jewish Encyclopedia.

http://www.jewishencyclopedia....etter=Z&search=zionism

Or you could have just read a description of the ideology in the Hasbara Handbook itself if you didn't perfer to live in the dark while waving your finger at those who don't.

Originally posted by: cubby1223
You read that entire thing? Wow!?

Am I to take it that a 131 pages is more than you could imagine reading?
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Unless you can demonstrate that the vast majority of media outlets are cooperatively lying to us about who the suicide bombers are, I'm still voting for Israel. I don't hate palestinians. I hate Hamas.

Why would you ask me to support a claim I never made? I don't support any attacks on civilians, be those of Hamas or the Israeli military. That is why I don't "vote" for one side or the other, but rather stand by the vast majority of the rest of the world who have long been wanting to persuade both sides into a real two-state solution. Unfortunately, as the sole superpower, our government holds the power to vote the world's will down.

That said, I can demonstrate many ways our corporate media cooperatively misleads the public though selective reporting if you like. Here a humorous moment they let someone who knows what he is talking about slip though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mk18af8z9Y

Also note that the woman laughing her head off is Mika Brzezinski, Zbigniew Brzezinski's daughter, and she is obviously overcome with the humor of Joe Scarborough getting put in his place by her father.

playing word games again...lol

That said, I can demonstrate many ways our corporate media cooperatively misleads the public though selective reporting if you like. can also be worded...
That said, I can demonstrate many ways our corporate media convieniently lies to the public though selective reporting if you like.

So YES you did say -- ....
 

wwswimming

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Anyway, I encourage others to post whatever propaganda methods and examples of them being applied you like, be it related to the Israel/Palestine conflict or otherwise, in the hopes of promoting more rational discussion in this form and elsewhere.

the terms "conspiracy theory", "Cold War", and "Vietnam War" are all examples of thought control, exercised in American society, and elsewhere around the world.

by "thought control" i don't mean something 1984-ish, it could refer to the control exercised by a high school history teacher when they teach the reduced version of history taught in American schools. for example, when they talk about Israel, they frequently mention Israel's 60th birthday, in 2008, but neglect to mention the parallel anniversary, the 60th anniversary of the Palestinian Holocaust - the destruction of 400 Palestinian villages that occurred as part of the creation of Israel.

as further documented at
http://www.palestineremembered.com/

note that when someone says that a group of 19 Muslims tried to hijack 4 planes, remote controlled by another Muslim named Osama, rarely is the term "conspiracy theory" used, although it is far from factual. some of the alleged hijackers have since announced that they are still alive - i.e., they were not on the planes, as alleged.

as soon as someone suggests that an American or Israeli group might have planned malevolent acts behind closed doors - which was certainly the case with the Iraq War, and Israel's Operation Cast Lead - then the term "conspiracy theory", and its modern derivatives, such as "foil head", are trotted out.

anybody who has studied the history of the Cold War knows it is far from a cold war. considering the number of people that died during it - most of them at American hands - it was quite the Hot War.

Also, the Vietnam War was not confined to Vietnam. about 4 1/2 million Southeast Asian civilians were killed by American forces during those 10 long years, in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Unless you can demonstrate that the vast majority of media outlets are cooperatively lying to us about who the suicide bombers are, I'm still voting for Israel.

Why would you ask me to support a claim I never made?
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That said, I can demonstrate many ways our corporate media cooperatively misleads the public though selective reporting if you like.

playing word games again...lol
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So YES you did say -- ....

You are tragically confused. I did not say what Atreus asked me to support, it was him who introduced the claim bolded above.

And yeah Wwswimming, all good points. Here is a bit from Propaganda Critic which does well in describing the current situation in general terms:

The information revolution has led to information overload, and people are confronted with hundreds of messages each day. Although few studies have looked at this topic, it seems fair to suggest that many people respond to this pressure by processing messages more quickly and, when possible, by taking mental short-cuts.

Propagandists love short-cuts -- particularly those which short-circuit rational thought. They encourage this by agitating emotions, by exploiting insecurities, by capitalizing on the ambiguity of language, and by bending the rules of logic. As history shows, they can be quite successful.

For those not aware of this, I highly recommend carefully reading though the whole website, for your on sakes as well as for society as a whole. I have favorited the site and will be responding to attempts to mislead opinion by quoting it from here out.
 

0marTheZealot

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The Jews learned from the master of propaganda, Joseph Goebbels. They saw how well it worked to convert normal German citizens into things like the SS, the Einsatzgruppen and how Germans lined up in droves to participate in the second world war.

Doesn't surprise me one bit, those who master history are the ones who can control it.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
The Jews...
No, some Jews, and many others too. Most are victims of propaganda as much as propagators. In the case of Zionists they are mislead into believing they are simply supporting Israel's right to exist rather than the ongoing conquest of what little is left of Palestine.

Your stereotyping of Jews demonstrates your own susceptibility to such indoctrination. Here is a book which will help you shake that if you can approach it with an open mind:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obi...15784/propagandacri-20
 

MovingTarget

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So? I don't think that this matters. Both sides are quite effective with their propaganda. This is nothing new to this conflict, or to any conflict. At least they fight words with words here. This thread seems more like a veiled anti-Israeli call-out than it does anything productive. Anyone who thinks that the 'Palestinians' are wide-eyed and innocent in this propaganda war is deluding themselves, not to mention the actual physical conflict.....
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: MovingTarget
I don't think...
Considering I just posted a link to a book on radical Islamic propaganda which includes analysis of Palestinian propaganda, and you are trying to accuse me of not seeing both sides, it is obvious that thinking isn't your strong suit.
 

kylebisme

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Well I finally got a response for Evan's inane argument above in this thread:

Originally posted by: First
^ LOL! Hate to break it to you, but virtually no one talks about Jews or Israelis using the term "zionist"...
I'm happy to inform you of the fact that "Zionist" doesn't apply to Jews as a whole, or Israelis as a whole for that matter, and there are many more Christian Zionists in this world than Jewish ones. Furthermore, the movement first gained prominence among Armageddonist Christians and WASP industrialists, while there was little interest and considerable opposition to Zionism in Jewish communities until the horrors of WWII. In regard specifically to Jews using the term, notable examples include the fact that it is how the World Zionist Orginization and the Zionist organization of America refer to themselves. Of course there are also Jewish groups who oppose Zionism, True Torah Jews Against Zionism being one notable example.

Originally posted by: First
....without some serious red flags going off about their sanity.
Your flagrant denial of reality here demonstrates the fact that you are in no position to question anyone's sanity.
 

Lemon law

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I do not know where first came up with, "How many Israeli suicide bombers are attacking, say, Lebanese women and children on a daily basis? Yeah, woops."

Nope, Israelis get to be truly civilized by bombing the whole country of Lebanon from the safety of a plane. And now are facing international war crimes charges from the UN regarding the Israeli rape of Gaza.

Maybe we should give the Palestinians the planes, tanks, and bombs, so like Israelis, they can become truly civilized in the ways they kill and brutalize their fellow man. And thus not need suicide bombers to defend themselves from being raped by continual Israeli theft of their own land. As the Palestinian people have been experiencing for the past 61 years.

I do not endorse either the Palestinian or the Israeli side, too many past mistakes to do that on both sides, but we will not have a viable mid-east peace until some compromise and sharing is reached on all sides. And first adds nothing but an idiots point of view.
 

Lemon law

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In terms of propaganda, its always been a equal opportunity employer. And is thousands of years old, why should we be surprised that all sides use propaganda and understand its principles.

The best defense against propaganda is the individual that thinks for their own self.

Independent thought absorbs 99.44 % of its weight in excess propaganda. And if you are fooled by propaganda, you have only yourself to blame.
 

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Did you know that the Nazis created all kinds of propaganda and attributed it to the Jews to build fear amongst the population?
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
And now are facing international war crimes charges from the UN regarding the Israeli rape of Gaza.
I'm not sure they will face charges, since the Obama administration pressured the Palestinian Authority into suspending their efforts to have the report looked at by the UN Security Council. Covering for war crimes while winning a Nobel Peace Prize is quite an accomplishment, eh?

Originally posted by: bobsmith1492
Did you know that the Nazis created all kinds of propaganda and attributed it to the Jews to build fear amongst the population?
I know, but if you are imaging that is how the propaganda handbook I posted came about, you are way off base. It is from the World Union of Jewish Students, and the link I proved to it is from a legitimate Zionist website. Here is another such website discussing the manual, and you can much more corroboration of this fact if you care to look into it rather than imagining up excuses to ignore it. Also, you can find a discussion on another such propaganda handbook here, critqued by a Zionist who I greatly respect as he doesn't condone such dishonesty and works hard to expose it.
 

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Originally posted by: kylebisme
I just recently stumbled across this Hasbara Handbook ("hasbara" being Hebrew for "explanation"). Here are some highlights from one section:

Name Calling

...Creating negative connotations by name calling is done to try and get the audience to reject a person or idea on the basis of negative associations, without allowing a real examination of that person or idea. ...

Testimonial
Kind of like the recent clinton and cater racist comments in regards to the current health care debacle.

Propoganda is a tool of ALL political ideologies. It isn't an exclusive Jewish thing.
 

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Originally posted by: Lemon law

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Maybe we should give the Palestinians the planes, tanks, and bombs, so like Israelis, they can become truly civilized in the ways they kill and brutalize their fellow man. And thus not need suicide bombers to defend themselves from being raped by continual Israeli theft of their own land. As the Palestinian people have been experiencing for the past 61 years.

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For 25 years the Palestinians had access to such. Apparently their own people would not trust them adn still do not.

Of course, the fact that the Palestinians tried for 25 yers to steal, rape and pillage Israel has no bearing either.