Prop K: San Francisco tries to legalize a real treat

[NoStateofMind]

Prop K is on the ballot in San Fransisco, but the question is, what is Prop K? Legalized prostitution! There are many reasons for this measure including better protection for victims of sex crimes, removing fear of reprisals and providing legitimacy to their profession. I think it should be legalized, what say you?

Prop K: San Francisco tries to legalize a real treat

San Franciscans have voted for free citywide wireless, banning handguns and impeaching President Bush.

Now the question is whether residents, no strangers to groundbreaking ideas, think the world's oldest profession should be considered a crime.

Proposition K would effectively decriminalize prostitution in the city by barring the Police Department from investigating and prosecuting it. The measure is being alternately hailed as a human rights landmark or a misguided venture that will turn San Francisco into a playground for sex tourists and pimps.

Prop. K is far from the first attempt to decriminalize prostitution in San Francisco - a city task force recommended the move in 1996 - but the reaction to it has been visceral.

It's triggered a court fight over ballot language, drawn swift condemnation from Mayor Gavin Newsom and District Attorney Kamala Harris, split Democratic and Green party officials alike, and caused a heated debate over whether it will help or thwart investigations into the $8 billion global sex trafficking industry, in which San Francisco is a major hub.

 

[Farang]

Sweet that is only 6 hours away from me.. now they just have to legalize cocaine an lift the embargo on Cuban cigars.

 

[fskimospy]

I really don't see a downside to legalizing prostitution. It would help limit the spread of disease, it would help reduce violence against prostitutes (and johns for that matter), it would limit the exploitation of young men and women, etc... etc. Good job San Francisco.

 

[Duwelon]

Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

 

[Infohawk]

This other measure is my favorite San Francisco measure.

This prostitution measure is a good example of something being a good idea on a state or national level but bad on a local level. If San Francisco is the only place to legalize prostitution, it risks being a regional whorehouse. (But maybe it would help tourism?)

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

A SIN?!?!?!?!? NOT A SIN!?!?!?! Oh wait I'm not a Christian and neither is the government so that shouldn't matter. Weaker families? Don't tell me you're going to go on about that indefinable term, "family values," now..

 

[IronWing]

If it passes (I'm ambivalent about it but lean toward legalization) I foresee a massive wave of zoning changes as, neighborhood by neighborhood, block by block, brothels are banned via zoning.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

I'm sure that's how the Amish think about you, but then again they're driving around in horses and buggies. California might not share your irrational fear of sin, but it's sure a bigger economic powerhouse and technological center than your run-of-the-mill backwater red state.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

Except that California seems to get richer and richer.

Edit: Infohawk said it better.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

That tells me quite enough.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

Yeah, because women are totally going to grow up thinking, "Instead of going to university to become a doctor, I'm going to enjoy the high life of a street whore!"

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

Yeah, because women are totally going to grow up thinking, "Instead of going to university to become a doctor, I'm going to enjoy the high life of a street whore!"

:laugh:

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

I'm sure that's how the Amish think about you, but then again they're driving around in horses and buggies. California might not share your irrational fear of sin, but it's sure a bigger economic powerhouse and technological center than your run-of-the-mill backwater red state.

Irrational fear of sin? The only reason we have any social problems at all is because of "sin". Any society that abandons Judeo Christian values will inevitably fall into a mire of social problems that make it just plain dangerous to live in. Do realize i know my audience, I'm just stating my beliefs.

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

Yeah, because women are totally going to grow up thinking, "Instead of going to university to become a doctor, I'm going to enjoy the high life of a street whore!"

Not everyone can grow up to be a doctor. Despair.com could make a demotivator about this, show a brothel with the caption "because not everyone can grow up to be a doctor"

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

I'm sure that's how the Amish think about you, but then again they're driving around in horses and buggies. California might not share your irrational fear of sin, but it's sure a bigger economic powerhouse and technological center than your run-of-the-mill backwater red state.

I have to admit, this is true.

 

[Kerouactivist]

Hopefully this will one day happen everywhere...It's only illegal because of calvinist tards...
It's legal and regulated in most places in Europe and seems to work out much better especially in regards to STD control...It's not my thing but who am I to tell somebody what they can't do with their body...

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

I'm sure that's how the Amish think about you, but then again they're driving around in horses and buggies. California might not share your irrational fear of sin, but it's sure a bigger economic powerhouse and technological center than your run-of-the-mill backwater red state.

Irrational fear of sin? The only reason we have any social problems at all is because of "sin". Any society that abandons Judeo Christian values will inevitably fall into a mire of social problems that make it just plain dangerous to live in. Do realize i know my audience, I'm just stating my beliefs.

Your belief doesn't make it so. I could send you a brochure on The Enlightenment if you'd like.

 

[Drift3r]

Anyone ever been to Nevada ?

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

I'm sure that's how the Amish think about you, but then again they're driving around in horses and buggies. California might not share your irrational fear of sin, but it's sure a bigger economic powerhouse and technological center than your run-of-the-mill backwater red state.

Irrational fear of sin? The only reason we have any social problems at all is because of "sin". Any society that abandons Judeo Christian values will inevitably fall into a mire of social problems that make it just plain dangerous to live in. Do realize i know my audience, I'm just stating my beliefs.

Japan doesn't have Judeo-Christian values and hasn't fallen into a mire of social problems.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

I'm sure that's how the Amish think about you, but then again they're driving around in horses and buggies. California might not share your irrational fear of sin, but it's sure a bigger economic powerhouse and technological center than your run-of-the-mill backwater red state.

Irrational fear of sin? The only reason we have any social problems at all is because of "sin". Any society that abandons Judeo Christian values will inevitably fall into a mire of social problems that make it just plain dangerous to live in. Do realize i know my audience, I'm just stating my beliefs.

Japan doesn't have Judeo-Christian values and hasn't fallen into a mire of social problems.

Except for developing the most bizarre culture this side of Beetlejuice.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

I'm sure that's how the Amish think about you, but then again they're driving around in horses and buggies. California might not share your irrational fear of sin, but it's sure a bigger economic powerhouse and technological center than your run-of-the-mill backwater red state.

Irrational fear of sin? The only reason we have any social problems at all is because of "sin". Any society that abandons Judeo Christian values will inevitably fall into a mire of social problems that make it just plain dangerous to live in. Do realize i know my audience, I'm just stating my beliefs.

that's why the roman empire reached its apex as it abandoned the old vice of the Pax Romana and embraced Christianity.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

I'm sure that's how the Amish think about you, but then again they're driving around in horses and buggies. California might not share your irrational fear of sin, but it's sure a bigger economic powerhouse and technological center than your run-of-the-mill backwater red state.

Irrational fear of sin? The only reason we have any social problems at all is because of "sin". Any society that abandons Judeo Christian values will inevitably fall into a mire of social problems that make it just plain dangerous to live in. Do realize i know my audience, I'm just stating my beliefs.

Japan doesn't have Judeo-Christian values and hasn't fallen into a mire of social problems.

Except for developing the most bizarre culture this side of Beetlejuice.

lololol

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

I'm sure that's how the Amish think about you, but then again they're driving around in horses and buggies. California might not share your irrational fear of sin, but it's sure a bigger economic powerhouse and technological center than your run-of-the-mill backwater red state.

Irrational fear of sin? The only reason we have any social problems at all is because of "sin". Any society that abandons Judeo Christian values will inevitably fall into a mire of social problems that make it just plain dangerous to live in. Do realize i know my audience, I'm just stating my beliefs.

Japan doesn't have Judeo-Christian values and hasn't fallen into a mire of social problems.

Except for developing the most bizarre culture this side of Beetlejuice.

Of course that is a direct result of censorship imposed on their movie and print media by some of our Judeo-Christian generals after WW2 in regards to pornography. Sexual repression can breed some odd sexual desires.

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Weaker families, the potential for increases in STD's, young women taking up a life as a prostitute instead of a real rewarding profession, the fact that it's a SIN, all should tell the people to reject it. It is CA though so I expect it to pass. You watch though, CA is going to decline in almost every imaginable metric the longer time goes on.

I'm sure that's how the Amish think about you, but then again they're driving around in horses and buggies. California might not share your irrational fear of sin, but it's sure a bigger economic powerhouse and technological center than your run-of-the-mill backwater red state.

Irrational fear of sin? The only reason we have any social problems at all is because of "sin". Any society that abandons Judeo Christian values will inevitably fall into a mire of social problems that make it just plain dangerous to live in. Do realize i know my audience, I'm just stating my beliefs.

Japan doesn't have Judeo-Christian values and hasn't fallen into a mire of social problems.

It seems to me that the Japanese are some of the most respectful people in the world. Love your neighbor as yourself, the golden rule. As long as that persists i think they'll be better off than most parts of the world.

 

[gevorg]

I wonder how low California will go on human values. Whats next, legalized Polygamy or Zoophilia?