Proof Trump has ZERO interest in protecting the country from Russian interference in our elections

HomerJS

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Wait a minute, I thought that was the primary responsibility of the President??

1. Our intelligence chiefs labeled Russian interference in our election a cyber version of 9/11. What has Trump done to thwart the next attack? Nothing
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/27/...a-cyber-command-russia-election-meddling.html

2. Kirsten Neilson was attempting to make plans to counter future Russian interference but guess who didn't want to hear any of it? That's right, Trump.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...p-2020-russian-election-interference-to-trump

3. Now Jared Kuschner is trying to downplay the Russian attack as just a couple of Facebook ads and that the investigation is worse then the crime.
https://www.politico.com/video/2019...ses-russias-interference-2016-election-068023
 

hal2kilo

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Wait a minute, I thought that was the primary responsibility of the President??

1. Our intelligence chiefs labeled Russian interference in our election a cyber version of 9/11. What has Trump done to thwart the next attack? Nothing
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/27/...a-cyber-command-russia-election-meddling.html

2. Kirsten Neilson was attempting to make plans to counter future Russian interference but guess who didn't want to hear any of it? That's right, Trump.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...p-2020-russian-election-interference-to-trump

3. Now Jared Kuschner is trying to downplay the Russian attack as just a couple of Facebook ads and that the investigation is worse then the crime.
https://www.politico.com/video/2019...ses-russias-interference-2016-election-068023
He is our #1 national security threat.
 

hal2kilo

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More tales of Russian interference (counter intelligence side of Maria Butina case)

New Revelations in Maria Butina Case Highlight Russia’s Infiltration Efforts in 2016
A Justice Department filing details a Russian influence scheme possibly related to the Trump-Russia scandal.
More connections

Really just a couple Facebook ads.
 

woolfe9998

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Apr 8, 2013
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Why would Trump want to do anything about it? If the Mueller report taught us one thing, it's that, provable conspiracy or not, Trump welcomed the benefits of the Russian interference in 2016, meaning we should expect him to welcome it again in 2020. It's not merely that he's ignoring it or in denial. He actually wants it.

I would think dem institutions like the DNC are going to have cyber-security up to their eyeballs next year, so probably no successful hacking, but expect another torrent of social media based propaganda from the Kremlin, aimed at helping to re-elect Trump. They may try other things as well that they haven't done before. Things we haven't even considered. We'll see.
 

Moonbeam

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Wait a minute, I thought that was the primary responsibility of the President??

1. Our intelligence chiefs labeled Russian interference in our election a cyber version of 9/11. What has Trump done to thwart the next attack? Nothing
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/27/...a-cyber-command-russia-election-meddling.html

2. Kirsten Neilson was attempting to make plans to counter future Russian interference but guess who didn't want to hear any of it? That's right, Trump.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...p-2020-russian-election-interference-to-trump

3. Now Jared Kuschner is trying to downplay the Russian attack as just a couple of Facebook ads and that the investigation is worse then the crime.
https://www.politico.com/video/2019...ses-russias-interference-2016-election-068023
He benefited from the crime and risks jail with the investigation No wonder he sees it that way.
 

ImpulsE69

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He's too busy worrying about his twitter follower count to worry about peasant issues.
 

Jhhnn

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It makes no sense to Trump to stop foreign meddling in our elections when they're on his side. All he has to do is let it happen. No collusion required.
 

UglyCasanova

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I agree both he and republicans don’t take this as seriously as they should. The integrity of our election system is critical to a functional democracy and the cornerstone is public trust in it. If foreign nations are potentially interfering in it that should be a problem and every American should want to get to the bottom of it. I’m glad the Mueller investigation was done, it was needed to show the public what happened and reassure them the election process is intact.

The assurance of the legitimacy of the election process is a reason we need voter ID laws. To reassure the public that fraud or non-citizens aren’t voting. IDs are incredibly easy to get and I don’t buy the idea that it’s too big of a hurdle.
 

cytg111

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.... I’m glad the Mueller investigation was done, it was needed to show the public what happened and reassure them the election process is intact.

The assurance of the legitimacy of the election process is a reason we need voter ID laws. To reassure the public that fraud or non-citizens aren’t voting. IDs are incredibly easy to get and I don’t buy the idea that it’s too big of a hurdle.

Its like a slow post with an IQ reaching for average. Impressive.
 

trenchfoot

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As Trump goes so goes the party. Ergo, the whole party is complicit with Trump's going out of his way to ignore what happened with the Russians aiding and abetting his election bid.

I say this because it's the whole party that is doing absolutely nothing to stop the Russians and others from jacking the upcoming elections again. IMO, it's due to their perceiving that without the Russians giving them another huge helping hand in corrupting the elections in their favor ie - via social media they're going to suffer as badly or worse than the last one where the Dems took the House by storm.

As we all know, the Repubs have also gotten addicted to legislating restrictive voting laws that suppress and disenfranchise voters that most likely vote Dem along with the outrageously excessive gerrymandering they're presently getting away with. Things can only get more desperate for the Repubs and their acts of desperation will of course increase in frequency and severity commensurate with their rising level of paranoia.

These ploys are acts of desperation and defiance of the rule of law, of which Trump is again if not the role model for these acts then he is the cause of it all.
 

BoomerD

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interchange

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I agree both he and republicans don’t take this as seriously as they should. The integrity of our election system is critical to a functional democracy and the cornerstone is public trust in it. If foreign nations are potentially interfering in it that should be a problem and every American should want to get to the bottom of it. I’m glad the Mueller investigation was done, it was needed to show the public what happened and reassure them the election process is intact.

The assurance of the legitimacy of the election process is a reason we need voter ID laws. To reassure the public that fraud or non-citizens aren’t voting. IDs are incredibly easy to get and I don’t buy the idea that it’s too big of a hurdle.

How would voter ID laws have prevented any election interference from Russia?

What do you suggest gets done about the actual problems? Foreign election interference and government persons who refuse to address it.
 

cytg111

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How would voter ID laws have prevented any election interference from Russia?

What do you suggest gets done about the actual problems? Foreign election interference and government persons who refuse to address it.

That is why its a slow post. Take a concept of something and therefor conclude on something entirely different.

Here he is, getting hammered hard, no lube, for three years straight by Vlad boy and gang ... and UCs response to this travesty is that you must adopt voterids.. wtaf.. knowing that it would hurt dems more than reps and thus indirectly play into Putins hand. A man of simple deductions can only surmise that UC likes what he is getting. It makes no sense any other way.
Or he is just not that bright.
 

fskimospy

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I agree both he and republicans don’t take this as seriously as they should. The integrity of our election system is critical to a functional democracy and the cornerstone is public trust in it. If foreign nations are potentially interfering in it that should be a problem and every American should want to get to the bottom of it. I’m glad the Mueller investigation was done, it was needed to show the public what happened and reassure them the election process is intact.

The assurance of the legitimacy of the election process is a reason we need voter ID laws. To reassure the public that fraud or non-citizens aren’t voting. IDs are incredibly easy to get and I don’t buy the idea that it’s too big of a hurdle.

Voter ID laws would do literally nothing to prevent the sort of interference we are talking about here.

How about you propose some election integrity measures that actually address the problem at hand as opposed to using interference by hostile foreign powers to push your preferred method of helping Republicans win elections?
 

Paratus

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How would voter ID laws have prevented any election interference from Russia?

What do you suggest gets done about the actual problems? Foreign election interference and government persons who refuse to address it.

If we had restrictive voter ID laws that only allowed the right people to vote (get it? right, as in conservatives ;) ) then the GOP wouldn’t need foreign help to win!
 

fskimospy

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If we had restrictive voter ID laws that only allowed the right people to vote (get it? right, as in conservatives ;) ) then the GOP wouldn’t need foreign help to win!

It is kind of amazing how his reasoning was ‘a hostile foreign power intervened in our election to help Republicans, therefore we must enact this irrational voter ID law to help Republicans’.
 
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HomerJS

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I agree both he and republicans don’t take this as seriously as they should. The integrity of our election system is critical to a functional democracy and the cornerstone is public trust in it. If foreign nations are potentially interfering in it that should be a problem and every American should want to get to the bottom of it. I’m glad the Mueller investigation was done, it was needed to show the public what happened and reassure them the election process is intact.

The assurance of the legitimacy of the election process is a reason we need voter ID laws. To reassure the public that fraud or non-citizens aren’t voting. IDs are incredibly easy to get and I don’t buy the idea that it’s too big of a hurdle.
Still bringing up that bullshit? Its been proven in court voter ID as implemented by Republicans is for suppressing the minority vote. Its also been proven in court we don't have a problem with widespread voter fraud.

Biggest problem is the integrity of ballots after votes cast. We need minimum federal standards including paper backups in every state.
 

VRAMdemon

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The "Information Highway" turns out to be a bunch of cul-de-sacs as it applies to political information.

Years ago, junkies of Hearst newspapers would sit elbow-to-elbow with readers of Pulitzer newspapers, and there could be common agreement about basic facts.

Now we live in bubbles. We hear mainstream media talk of how damaging the Mueller Report is to Trump, while 83% of Fox Potatoes think it exonerates him. Bad actors like the Kremlin or the GOP can poison the Information Highway with lies. Google and social media can be hindrance rather than help: Type "Tell me about Elizabeth Warren" and your click-history may be examined before doing the search: Google wants to improve its ad revenue by feeding you the stories it thinks you want to click on.
 

Jhhnn

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Voter ID laws would do literally nothing to prevent the sort of interference we are talking about here.

How about you propose some election integrity measures that actually address the problem at hand as opposed to using interference by hostile foreign powers to push your preferred method of helping Republicans win elections?

He's going for the Duh-version. Don't fall for it.

The Dunning-Kreuger effect is in full force with Trump voters. Those most likely to have been affected by Russian propaganda & disinformation are absolutely certain it didn't happen to them, because they're too smart...

Fake news has been a bonanza for other enterprising & unscrupulous people, as well-

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...-teen-earns-thousands-publishing-lies-n692451

Trumpsters loved his bullshit.
 

sportage

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This guy Donald Trump is sooooo corrupt.
He won't allow anyone to know what really happened between him and Russia.
He won't allow anyone to look at his taxes.
Donald Trump won't answer any subpoena.
He won't allow any committee or individual to talk to his people except for Trump loyalist.
And his most loyal loyalist included Robert Mueller.
Which frankly I think Trump, Mueller, and AG Barr had this all arranged from day one when AG Barr first took over.
While temp AG Matt Whitaker was being "phased out", we now know what was going on behind the scene between Donald Trump and William Barr.
"And, with the full orchestration by Robert Mueller."

For our system of laws, checks and balances to put up with this crap is insane.
WHO IS IT EXACTLY that runs this country?
Obviously, it is only Donald Trump.

All along I thought Trump and his cult of stoney eyed misfits, and that includes some 37% of YOU America, were attempting to take over our country.
To have their COUP.
But now I believe they have already succeeded in that goal.
That America has indeed been coup-ed.
it's now a done deal.

No system of laws nor any other political party nor any future election is going to change this.
Donald Trump is now the full blown, the fully self anointed KING Of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
They have taken over.
And Trump now has an full array of government officials who work for and only work for Donald Trump.
Having an election now or in 2020 would be pointless.
They will use their new government to twist, rewrite, redefine every election outcome from now on.
That outcome to forever favor Donald Trump.
We all should already know that.

King Donald has his AG, has his Senate, has his US Supreme Court, and if one really wants to be truthful King Donald also has his military and his police force.
His military, to shield against any outside interference.
And his police across America to suppress any threat from within.
Because come 2020, King Donald will need that acting suppression across the land.

Yes, We have experienced a coup within America.
Why should Donald Trump be concerned about Russia now?
Or be concerned about anything once considered normal for any president?
It no longer matters. Any of it.
Coup's toss out old government and enact entirely new government, from top to bottom.
This is now Donald Trump's America and only Donald Trump's America.
Donald Trump is the King.
Only what King Donald sees as important will be important from not on.
And only what King Donald decides will be the decision made.
Historical law and constitution and institutional foundations no longer apply. None of it....
We have no US Constitution, we have only what King Donald Trump decides.
Only what he wishes to do, only what he wants, how we as a nation under him expected to act and react, and whatever he decides to be allowed or not allowed.
This coup was so extensive engulfing every aspect of out government that now King Donald Trump "is" the US Constitution.
F$$K the forefathers, as Trump puts it....
Or soon will because he can.
After all, he is THE KING.
 
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Fenixgoon

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i imagine if trump actually had to respond (in words) to russian interference, it would be something along the lines of "who wouldn't help winning? not that i need it of course. i had the most legitimate election. ever."