Project: The AIGO-Loop

PCTC2

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Update:

So I figured I'd give an old thread a bump and start a new project.

I still haven't finished my old HAF932 build, and it's already getting ripped apart. I need more room in both my Q6600 and i7 builds, so I'm swapping cases and rebuilding a bit. Currently:

Q6600 in P182 with modified MCR320 top
Core i7 920 in HAF932 with PA 120.3

But I want to add a second loop to the Core i7 build (or just make the loop larger. My temps are fine), and I want to mount the MCR320 internally. So this is the plan:

I love my HAF932 and I found something to replace it. The CM ATCS RC-840. Basically a nicer looking Aluminum version of the HAF932. No side vents, but it has a 230mm intake and 2x 230mm exhausts and a 120mm exhaust, removable motherboard tray, and two internal 120mm mid-fans. My plan is to mount my PA 120.3 up top again in the RC840, and see if I can squeeze a TFC X240 on the two front fans. If not, just a Swiftech MCR220. Replace the MCP655 with the MCP355 w/ XSPC top from my Q6600 loop, and pick up a second MCP355 with XSPC top. Depending on case case, I would see loop order. I would also pick up another Swiftech MCW60-B Rev 2 for my second SLI'd GTX260. This way I can crank these suckers up to 700/1512/1040 and get great temperatures.

Then the Q6600 would be moved to the HAF 932 and instead of its MCP355, it would get the old MCP655 since it only has an ApogeeGTX and EK-FC88GT. It would be almost exactly like LOUISSSSS's build. HAF932, MCR320, Swiftech ApogeeGTX block (he has GTZ), EK-FC88GT (he has his on an 8800GT. I have the GTS512), and a Gigabyte EP45-UD3P board.

Then the old server, the E6400, would be put into the P182. Only aircooled for now. Since it's underclocked to 1.6GHz and only running a web, VM, and file server (4 VMs. XP and a few Linux distros). I would have to find a replacement top for it.

Damnit Aigo.

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So I'm redoing my i7 loop to put more components on water and replacing the pumps.

I'm going to be using dual DDC-3.2's and I was wondering at a certain point, is it too much. Using Martin's Flow Rate Estimator, it puts the pressure drop of the loop around 10 PSI and the flow rate at around 2 GPM. Just wondering about flow rate.

Also, just saying I got Aigo'd again. BOLD is NEW.

Res -> MCP355 w/ top -> MCP355 w/ top -> TC PA120.3 -> ApogeeGTZ -> TFC X240 -> MCW60 -> MCW60 -> Res

So yeah. Just wondering. If you post a LMGTFY link, please don't. I've been extremely sick lately (check out the DC BBQ thread) and can't really think straight and a new thread is an easy way to get my question answered.
 

Gillbot

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Anything Aigo does is overkill. Why not just do two loops? Or just use 1 pump and simplify?
 

aigomorla

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split your loop up.

Your a F@Her, so means your gpu is under constant load.

Well your cpu is under constant load also, but your GPU's are less heat sensitive then your cpu, so id say split the loop up.
 

PCTC2

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What happens if I already have this?

Otherwise, I guess I could put the i7 on the TFC X120.2 and the GTX260's on the TC PA120.3 and pick up 2 new tops. But the space in the case is easier to manage with a single long loop.
 

PCTC2

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Would it be so bad? I don't have room for another reservoir and I'd need another T-line. I'm afraid to run a loop with just a T-line and no res because I killed a pump that way. I don't fold anymore because I can't afford the electricity. It's now just a gaming/HTPC rig.

Also, is it okay to run MCP355's vertically?
 

Gillbot

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As long as the pump suction isn't pointing down, you should be ok.

I run my loops with only a T line and have since setting them up, i've never had a single issue. I doubt it's the "t-line" that killed your pump.
 

aigomorla

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mmmm not happy with dual tops as of this moment.

no real testing was done on them. Some say that EK is great, however i dont think so.

Its based off eddies old top design which is actually bad compared to the spiral volutes.

Also single inlet is very bad for a pump like that.

In short i remember getting into a fight with eddie about it, at best i would call it a novelty, you would get better performance tho using 2 xspc tops and connecting them with a bitspower dplug or a 1 card sli bridge from koolance.

I think i started that dual top crazy from resurfacing a second time when i showed this puppy off:

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0081.jpg

Its an old top by HWLuxx that had to be heavily modified. I dont recomend that top either unless you have a mill.
 

PCTC2

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Maybe I'll just try this out and if it sucks, I'll just split it up into two loops. I'm actually ditching the TFC X120.2 for 2x TFC 120.1 because of the current state of my case. I have an idea and it might work out. Might. We'll see.
 

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Testing new configs is the fun part in h2o.

After that its building and moding... then comes TEC's.

UGH... stupid TEC's. Theres a facination with them, but there so unefficient.
 

PCTC2

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NO TECs. BAD AIGO. Don't mention TECs and testing. My electricity bill is bad enough. :p
 

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Originally posted by: PCTC2
NO TECs. BAD AIGO. Don't mention TECs and testing. My electricity bill is bad enough. :p

but its like a moth to a flame....

ohhhhh purty lights... :p
 

aigomorla

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PCTC2 the best aigo advice i can give ya, if you feel your gonna take this hobby further, get a torture rack.

This pic should spell 1000 words.

Yes those are fesser 480's mounted on that sucker.

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_1330.jpg

heh.. those are the blocks on my P6T tweaken wants which you cant get anymore. :p
 

thilanliyan

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Originally posted by: Gillbot
As long as the pump suction isn't pointing down, you should be ok.

I have my inlet angled slightly down (it's a bit more angled than in the picture below since I changed the layout a bit)...everything seems to be running fine so far.

http://i53.photobucket.com/alb...thilan29/P3054880x.jpg

Is it bad to run it like that? I can see when you're bleeding the pump may be starved a bit but once it's running it should be okay right?
 

PCTC2

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
PCTC2 the best aigo advice i can give ya, if you feel your gonna take this hobby further, get a torture rack.

This pic should spell 1000 words.

Yes those are fesser 480's mounted on that sucker.

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_1330.jpg

heh.. those are the blocks on my P6T tweaken wants which you cant get anymore. :p

Maybe next rig. When I grab some 32nm parts next year. I think I'm going to try to keep this project in my case for now and see how much I squeeze into it.

So in 2010, you'll see "I got AIGO'd AGAIN! And this time it's outside the box". :p
 

Gillbot

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Originally posted by: thilan29
Originally posted by: Gillbot
As long as the pump suction isn't pointing down, you should be ok.

I have my inlet angled slightly down (it's a bit more angled than in the picture below since I changed the layout a bit)...everything seems to be running fine so far.

http://i53.photobucket.com/alb...thilan29/P3054880x.jpg

Is it bad to run it like that? I can see when you're bleeding the pump may be starved a bit but once it's running it should be okay right?

No, that's fine. You don't want it pointing directly down because it can trap air.
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: Tweakin
Originally posted by: aigomorla
heh.. those are the blocks on my P6T tweaken wants which you cant get anymore. :p

Just rub it in.....

my 975 D0 is coming in next week.

Yes i'll show it off in cpu and overclocking.

That better? :p
 

PCTC2

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Taking a different route right now. Picked up a new EP45-DS3P rev 1.1 and I'm going to toss that into my MCR320/ApogeeGTX system with my Q6600 and overclock that sucker.
 

Gillbot

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Originally posted by: PCTC2
Taking a different route right now. Picked up a new EP45-DS3P rev 1.1 and I'm going to toss that into my MCR320/ApogeeGTX system with my Q6600 and overclock that sucker.

Is the Apogee GTX the one with the Alu top?
 

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You should build one big loop for all the machines. Think a pool pump would be big enough for that? :D
 

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: Tweakin
Originally posted by: aigomorla
heh.. those are the blocks on my P6T tweaken wants which you cant get anymore. :p

Just rub it in.....

my 975 D0 is coming in next week.

Yes i'll show it off in cpu and overclocking.

That better? :p

You are cruel.....just after I lost my case...
 

PCTC2

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Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
You should build one big loop for all the machines. Think a pool pump would be big enough for that? :D

Bump for an update. Maybe I'll just cool it with pool water. Or tap into the complex's water system outside.