Project Pile- 90 Eagle talon Tsi awd

[Bignate603]

don't know how to respond to that except I think you think Jay Leno is not a real car nut and you are when the best you have had can be bought with almost anyone's weekly paycheck.

Jay loves a good junker, enough that he kept his own junker for decades before he got around to fixing it. He owns a 1955 Buick, when he originally bought it in the 70's it was already really old and dirt cheap. At times when he was trying to get his career started he even had to sleep in the car because he didn't have money to stay anywhere else. Eventually the car bad enough that he parked it when he had enough money to replace it but he never got rid of the thing. When he had the cash he had it rebuilt as a hot rod. Don't believe me? Video of him talking about his '55 Buick

So yes, Jay fits my criteria pretty well. He can find something to love in an old and junky car, he's just got a bit more resources to put polish it back up.

 

[BUTCH1]

Jay was also a mechanic at one point, worked on Mercedes Benz. I grew up about 5 miles from where Jay hails from..

 

[alkemyst]

Leno did that out of total necessity...you don't see him doing that crap now.

I can guarantee with a common car like these even he'd recommend starting with a better base that it and he has full time dudes working for him.

 

[Bignate603]

Leno did that out of total necessity...you don't see him doing that crap now.

I can guarantee with a common car like these even he'd recommend starting with a better base that it and he has full time dudes working for him.

Then why did he keep the pile of junk for decades after he didn't need it? He fell in love with the junker.

Another example of a wealthy person that fell in love with a junker is Richard Hammond. If you don't understand what I mean go look up the African special of Top Gear. He loved the junky Opel Kadett (which even brand new was not a nice car) that he drove that he bought it and shipped it back to the UK. It was in bad shape at the beginning of the trip and was in far worse shape by the end, but he loved it more than was rational. Why else would he buy a pile of beat of scrap metal and pay to drag it from Africa to the UK?

 

[alkemyst]

Then why did he keep the pile of junk for decades after he didn't need it? He fell in love with the junker.

Another example of a wealthy person that fell in love with a junker is Richard Hammond. If you don't understand what I mean go look up the African special of Top Gear. He loved the junky Opel Kadett (which even brand new was not a nice car) that he drove that he bought it and shipped it back to the UK. It was in bad shape at the beginning of the trip and was in far worse shape by the end, but he loved it more than was rational. Why else would he buy a pile of beat of scrap metal and pay to drag it from Africa to the UK?

He wanted to remember where he came from.

 

[Jbusch]

You'd have done far better buying a more solid base to start on.

By your last post you are now driving around in a deathtrap, get it off the road and to a real mechanic that would have seen all these issues.

As was stated above "someone" has obviously never bought a P.O.S car and brought it back to its former glory & performing better than when it came off the showroom floor.

This car has spent 21 years of it life living in the rust belt and used in wintertime for 19 of those years. I would rather fix it myself or with the help of friends than pay to have someone do what I can do myself. As part of the enjoyment of project pile is learning while rebuilding.

I was able to cut & crimp the rear brake lines stopping the leak. After topping off the master cylinder with the brake fluid I carried. (along with a basic set of tools, other auto oils and fluids for just such an occasion. )

The Talon made back home in the morning with no other issues and was safe to drive as long as I didn't drive it like an ass and tailgate. When I reached my driveway & checked the brake fluid it had not lost any more fluid & was still full.

 

[Zargon]

Not according to Mitsubishi at the time considering the car had about 49K on it when it just died at a stop sign and would not restart and it was under warranty so the dealer fixed all the damage. It bent four valves so the head had to be reworked along with the turbo that was spewing smoke due to bad design on the seals. I was about to take it to the dealer for the turbo when the belt went so I got it all fixed at the same time for free.

aaaaaah. I wasnt able tp lay with DSM's till I was in college, which was about 2000. by then everyone that knew DSM's preached 35-40k for it unless you really wanted to get new valves

 

[alkemyst]

As was stated above "someone" has obviously never bought a P.O.S car and brought it back to its former glory & performing better than when it came off the showroom floor.

This car has spent 21 years of it life living in the rust belt and used in wintertime for 19 of those years. I would rather fix it myself or with the help of friends than pay to have someone do what I can do myself. As part of the enjoyment of project pile is learning while rebuilding.

I was able to cut & crimp the rear brake lines stopping the leak. After topping off the master cylinder with the brake fluid I carried. (along with a basic set of tools, other auto oils and fluids for just such an occasion. )

The Talon made back home in the morning with no other issues and was safe to drive as long as I didn't drive it like an ass and tailgate. When I reached my driveway & checked the brake fluid it had not lost any more fluid & was still full.

You last point just means you were lucky...the car should have been towed.

As far as restoring old cars my very first car was a 1966 Mustang GT that I paid about $3k for. Once that was done my dad gave me tools and an open checkbook to restore it...he helped of course. Everything was removed and then refinished or replaced...down to every nut and bolt. Paint work was handled by pros as was the engine internals.

Since then I have helped on various cars including a late 50's Tbird, 96 Bronco with a 408 build up, and my own 98 240SX SE which pretty much has nothing stock underneath it any more.

Think of others on the road rather than bang for buck.

 

[Pulsar]

You last point just means you were lucky...the car should have been towed.

As far as restoring old cars my very first car was a 1966 Mustang GT that I paid about $3k for. Once that was done my dad gave me tools and an open checkbook to restore it...he helped of course. Everything was removed and then refinished or replaced...down to every nut and bolt. Paint work was handled by pros as was the engine internals.

Since then I have helped on various cars including a late 50's Tbird, 96 Bronco with a 408 build up, and my own 98 240SX SE which pretty much has nothing stock underneath it any more.

Think of others on the road rather than bang for buck.

Go back to off-topic to troll please. You've added nothing to this topic other than attempting to derail it, and most of the folks don't care how big your checkbook is around here.

 

[SuperSix]

alkemyst poisons any thread he posts in.

 

[hanoverphist]

Think of others on the road rather than bang for buck.

i rebuilt the 350 in my impala just because i knew how. i could have had someone else do it, but since i knew how i took care of it. i enjoy it. i also redid the top end of my 383 back in HS because i wanted to learn how it all worked. that car was also not a public menace and cost me about 100 bucks in parts to redo. i rebuilts the trans in my truck and redid the xfer case because it was a fun project and it was my 3rd vehicle. took a while, had some friends help with it and learned a ton. it was also not a public menace. ive built many different motorcycles from ground up, even though i could have had someone else do it for me. this is stuff i enjoy doing. im comfortable doing these things and i have access to good advice as well as proper tools.

sounds like youre more comfortable with basic maintenance and letting pros take care of the hard stuff. well, good for you. now shut the fuck up and stop bitching about people who know how to do the work doing it for themselves.

 

[Bignate603]

You last point just means you were lucky...the car should have been towed.

As far as restoring old cars my very first car was a 1966 Mustang GT that I paid about $3k for. Once that was done my dad gave me tools and an open checkbook to restore it...he helped of course. Everything was removed and then refinished or replaced...down to every nut and bolt. Paint work was handled by pros as was the engine internals.

Since then I have helped on various cars including a late 50's Tbird, 96 Bronco with a 408 build up, and my own 98 240SX SE which pretty much has nothing stock underneath it any more.

Think of others on the road rather than bang for buck.

I'm not really surprised. Try doing something when you don't have a ton of cash to dump into it.

 

[alkemyst]

Go back to off-topic to troll please. You've added nothing to this topic other than attempting to derail it, and most of the folks don't care how big your checkbook is around here.

That's the problem in what your heard only. The issue I had was a car with unsafe brakes does not below on the road, this guy is a danger to everyone else and you are simply patting him on the back for it.

People pay a lot of money to tow POS cars they want to restore because it's the smart thing to do.

You need to figure out what trolling really is, you seem to think it as anyone with more cash than you or a different opinion.

 

[alkemyst]

I'm not really surprised. Try doing something when you don't have a ton of cash to dump into it.

Have done that too. Most laughed about my 96 Saturn SC2 here. Not a bad college commuter in 1999.

 

[hanoverphist]

That's the problem in what your heard only. The issue I had was a car with unsafe brakes does not below on the road, this guy is a danger to everyone else and you are simply patting him on the back for it.

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nah, i wasnt patting anyone on the back. but when your back brakes fail, you still have about 70% effective brakes if you can keep the system pressurized. hardly a danger to kith and kin. its about as effective braking as someone with water or air in their lines. definitely needs to get fixed, but not an OMG drop and tow the sucker issue. youre still making much more out of it than is really necessary.

 

[Harrod]

Pretty cool project, I think everyone has had something like that happen to them at one point or another.

I had my anti lock brakes go out on my integra at one point, you should have seen the looks I got when I went to slow down on my way to home depot.

 

[alkemyst]

you still have about 70% effective brakes if you can keep the system pressurized.

Right, but with line problems that's just the thing to have a sane person throw in the towel and call for a tow.

hardly a danger to kith and kin. its about as effective braking as someone with water or air in their lines. definitely needs to get fixed, but not an OMG drop and tow the sucker issue. youre still making much more out of it than is really necessary.

in a panic stop, which happens quite frequently in today's motorist world (perhaps because someone else is trying to nurse a beater home on the highway), you probably will not stop in time, you may avoid hitting anyone; however be sending others into oblivion.

Much like the post I made a month or so ago about the idiot in the beater pickup truck towing some nice newer car with like 6' of rope in the HOV lane at 70mph+. Lane came to a halt, the chick being towed didn't.

Car was messed up, truck looked probably as bad as it did prior to it.

 

[jlee]

Right, but with line problems that's just the thing to have a sane person throw in the towel and call for a tow.



in a panic stop, which happens quite frequently in today's motorist world (perhaps because someone else is trying to nurse a beater home on the highway), you probably will not stop in time, you may avoid hitting anyone; however be sending others into oblivion.

Much like the post I made a month or so ago about the idiot in the beater pickup truck towing some nice newer car with like 6' of rope in the HOV lane at 70mph+. Lane came to a halt, the chick being towed didn't.

Car was messed up, truck looked probably as bad as it did prior to it.

You probably see more cars in a block of driving than he sees in his entire commute. Not everyone lives with city traffic (which I assume you have if you need an HOV lane). I think the last time I had an ABS-assisted stop on pavement was a couple of years ago while downtown, not on a rural highway.

Is it ideal? Absolutely not...but for the area we're talking about, worst-case you might hit a deer.

 

[CraigRT]

Have done that too. Most laughed about my 96 Saturn SC2 here. Not a bad college commuter in 1999.

I still want a 95/96 SC2.. I love 'em.

 

[hanoverphist]

Right, but with line problems that's just the thing to have a sane person throw in the towel and call for a tow.



in a panic stop, which happens quite frequently in today's motorist world (perhaps because someone else is trying to nurse a beater home on the highway), you probably will not stop in time, you may avoid hitting anyone; however be sending others into oblivion.

Much like the post I made a month or so ago about the idiot in the beater pickup truck towing some nice newer car with like 6' of rope in the HOV lane at 70mph+. Lane came to a halt, the chick being towed didn't.

Car was messed up, truck looked probably as bad as it did prior to it.

theres a difference between an idiot towing at 70+ on the freeway with a short rope and someone being cautious on back roads with 70% brake power.

one is an idiot, the other is not.

ive towed many of my broken cars/ trucks and even my bike before trying to get it on the road if it was risky. thats not even an issue. but not every problem with a car requires a tow, thats just silly in itself. and i live in a decent size city, my commute is about 45 miles but my work is 11 miles from my house. it takes me an hour to do that commute, and there is plenty of traffic to see and deal with.

 

[alkemyst]

theres a difference between an idiot towing at 70+ on the freeway with a short rope and someone being cautious on back roads with 70% brake power.

one is an idiot, the other is not.

ive towed many of my broken cars/ trucks and even my bike before trying to get it on the road if it was risky. thats not even an issue. but not every problem with a car requires a tow, thats just silly in itself. and i live in a decent size city, my commute is about 45 miles but my work is 11 miles from my house. it takes me an hour to do that commute, and there is plenty of traffic to see and deal with.

I don't know what to tell you...dude said he attempted a 27mile commute. City or not that is a huge danger when you end up having your brake pedal just slam into the firewall.

For every 100 yahoos that take the risk and make it, there is 1 that messes someone else's stuff or life up. Don't be that guy.

I don't get how your commute is 45 miles, but it's 11 miles away...you talking straight line, please don't tell me you are using that arguement.

 

[hanoverphist]

I don't get how your commute is 45 miles, but it's 11 miles away...you talking straight line, please don't tell me you are using that arguement.

i think we are arguing for the sake of arguing on the whole brake issue, so im going to stop it on my side. as for the quoted part, straight line is 11 miles. unfortunately, i take my kids to school every morning in a different city and have to travel a bit south of both work and home to get there. turns that 11 mile shot to about 45, and an hour drive in mesa/ tempe/ phx traffic. its all city, no highway. its worth it to keep the kids in the tempe district tho.

 

[sontakke]

My brother still has 1990 Tsi AWD. It is in immaculate condition for 21 year car. The only thing which does not work is the A/C. He tried few times but nobody was able to find the leak. Recently he put in almost 3K for new clutch, timing belt and bunch of other stuff. It is his first new car and he loves it and so do I. It is completely stock and it is blast to drive. The engine is completely original and the turbo still spools up as fast as it did when new. This is a New Hampshire car but now in Virginia. When he bought it, I bought SHO and we used to have fun on NH/VT roads. Even though my SHO was probably as fast as Talon, due to turbo, Talon always felt faster to me. I got rid of SHO in ten years but the Talon is still in the family. Now I have Maxima which I know is faster than Talon but when the boost comes on, watch out! And man that torque steer; hang on to your steering!!

Every time he takes it in anywhere for a service, the mechanic there always wants to buy it from him. Of course he is not selling. Now he is teaching his daughter to drive it.

- Vikas

 

[hanoverphist]

Every time he takes it in anywhere for a service, the mechanic there always wants to buy it from him. Of course he is not selling. Now he is teaching his daughter to drive it.

- Vikas

yikes!

im teaching my daughter on my civic first, then my manual trans truck when she has the basics. so far she does well in the civic, but shes a bit afraid of the truck. too much power, and too many things to keep track of for her yet. id never get something like that for an inexperienced driver to learn on.

 

[alkemyst]

i think we are arguing for the sake of arguing on the whole brake issue, so im going to stop it on my side. as for the quoted part, straight line is 11 miles. unfortunately, i take my kids to school every morning in a different city and have to travel a bit south of both work and home to get there. turns that 11 mile shot to about 45, and an hour drive in mesa/ tempe/ phx traffic. its all city, no highway. its worth it to keep the kids in the tempe district tho.

Using bee-flight in Arizona around Mesa is stupid with the fucking Loop you have. The traffic in Mesa and around phoenix is ridiculous though both on the highway and city.

A K. Hovnanian office I setup and decommissioned was there. I think the road was Stapley. There was an In and Out there and an Office Depot/Staples across the street in a little plaza.

Most of my same aged cousins left Chicago a few years ago to live there. There is a nice night life. I had a lot of great conversations there which made for 'eating alone' pretty fun.