Progressive Oregon goes after Beer drinkers

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CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Good thing I don't live in Oregon and also brew my own I guess. :) I infact just brewed a batch of honey Ale last night. Should be ready for Memorial day weekend. Mmmmm beer.

:laugh:

Yeah, just image how big a commie I'd be if I had a barrel of my homebrewed Honey Nut Brown on tap in my garage! Oh wait... I do.

MMmm... beer. Time to have a few.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Good thing I don't live in Oregon and also brew my own I guess. :) I infact just brewed a batch of honey Ale last night. Should be ready for Memorial day weekend. Mmmmm beer.

:laugh:

Yeah, just image how big a commie I'd be if I had a barrel of my homebrewed Honey Nut Brown on tap in my garage! Oh wait... I do.

MMmm... beer. Time to have a few.

Heh heh. Commie.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Good thing I don't live in Oregon and also brew my own I guess. :) I infact just brewed a batch of honey Ale last night. Should be ready for Memorial day weekend. Mmmmm beer.

:laugh:

Yeah, just image how big a commie I'd be if I had a barrel of my homebrewed Honey Nut Brown on tap in my garage! Oh wait... I do.

MMmm... beer. Time to have a few.

Heh heh. Commie.

I actually might be racist.. I have co2 pressurizing the keg...you know...trying to hold the brown down... ;)

Alright - that was lame...and I've hijacked this thread enough. Time for beer.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Heh heh. Commie.

I actually might be racist.. I have co2 pressurizing the keg...you know...trying to hold the brown down... ;)

Alright - that was lame...and I've hijacked this thread enough. Time for beer.

Actually you are a knuckle-dragging heathen RepugliCON Joe-sixpack. With all of the elitists in P&N, you better be drinking a fine red wine.
 

jpeyton

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The tax rate OR is proposing is adding 15 cents per 12 oz (bottle), or 20 cents per 16 oz (pint).

A six pack of beer would go up 90 cents.

That's a bit high. I think the proposed increase will be whittled down during the legislation process to something along the lines of a 5 cent increase per 12 oz.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Robor
A stiff tax increase on beer in Oregon? Doesn't Oregon have a pretty large micro brew industry?

We have probably the largest microbrew industry in the country (and certainly the best IMO). And a powerful restaurant association. Which is why this bill is doomed to fail, despite all the media hype. There is tremendous public pressure against it.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
The tax rate OR is proposing is adding 15 cents per 12 oz (bottle), or 20 cents per 16 oz (pint).

A six pack of beer would go up 90 cents.

That's a bit high. I think the proposed increase will be whittled down during the legislation process to something along the lines of a 5 cent increase per 12 oz.

They should just leave beer alone and bump the bottle bill to 10 cents like they've been talking about forever.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
The tax rate OR is proposing is adding 15 cents per 12 oz (bottle), or 20 cents per 16 oz (pint).

A six pack of beer would go up 90 cents.

That's a bit high. I think the proposed increase will be whittled down during the legislation process to something along the lines of a 5 cent increase per 12 oz.

A tax that a leftist doesnt like?


Maybe we should hold hands and sing kumbaya! (sp)
 

RU482

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Scott Jantze would be thrilled if somebody - anybody - would price cigarettes so high he wouldn?t buy them.

LOL, I guess for now the guy's health is less important than money.

This article is too short. I don't see how $.15 on a pint in a barrel can turn into $1.50 down the line.

yeah...how do "middlemen" add to a tax increase?
I don't get it
 

piasabird

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People will just cross the border to buy beer. What will that do for Oregon.

Drinking beer is kind of stupid.
 

AFMatt

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I dont live in Oregon, so I dont know what you currently pay for beer at the store.. From what I have heard, the current tax on a barrel of beer (31 gallons) is $2.60. This tax will raise it to about $47. Sure, that looks like quite a jump, if you look at it on that scale. When you break it down, however, that's 66 cents a gallon or roughly $1 per 12-pack.
I wouldn't really dont see a problem with the price of my 12-packs going up a buck or two. Seriously. Beyond that, I also wouldn't complain much if this bottle of Bacardi I have goes up a couple bucks either if it means my state won't have to cut every program under the sun to fix some shit.
Alcohol taxes have been avoided for years. Would you rather your state just increase sales tax, gas tax, car tax, and any other kind of tax that screws you on every possible purchase instead? Yes, I live in California.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: jpeyton
The tax rate OR is proposing is adding 15 cents per 12 oz (bottle), or 20 cents per 16 oz (pint).

A six pack of beer would go up 90 cents.

That's a bit high. I think the proposed increase will be whittled down during the legislation process to something along the lines of a 5 cent increase per 12 oz.

They should just leave beer alone and bump the bottle bill to 10 cents like they've been talking about forever.
That would be nice. The deposit has not kept up with inflation, and it shows.

Although as for the matter of the beer tax, I don't see a problem here. We certainly could use the money for drug/alcohol abuse, Oregon has no shortage of addicts. And no matter how they go about it it's going to look bad; you can't meaningfully raise a tax from less than a penny without ending up with a percentage representation that results in eyes popping out of heads.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: jpeyton
The tax rate OR is proposing is adding 15 cents per 12 oz (bottle), or 20 cents per 16 oz (pint).

A six pack of beer would go up 90 cents.

That's a bit high. I think the proposed increase will be whittled down during the legislation process to something along the lines of a 5 cent increase per 12 oz.

They should just leave beer alone and bump the bottle bill to 10 cents like they've been talking about forever.
That would be nice. The deposit has not kept up with inflation, and it shows.
:thumbsdown: I'd like to kick whoever thought up the can/bottle deposit square in the nuts. There is ZERO reason we cant curb side cans but no... we have to pay a deposit, then hold on the the refuse until we have time to take a bunch back. Have you been to the redemption centers? They are nasty. And not to mention it creates a haven for bugs and bees since I have to store them until taking them in. It's just absolutely stupid to have a deposit.
 

Thump553

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CAD-you must be too young to remember life before the bottle deposit laws. There was tons of litter along all highways in the sixties due to the "convenience" of no-deposit bottles. It was a change well worth making. Rinse out your bottles and man-up. If a bottle return center is the worst place you go, you have a charmed life.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Thump553
CAD-you must be too young to remember life before the bottle deposit laws. There was tons of litter along all highways in the sixties due to the "convenience" of no-deposit bottles. It was a change well worth making. Rinse out your bottles and man-up. If a bottle return center is the worst place you go, you have a charmed life.

You must be too obtuse to realize that with the price of aluminum and the recycling mentality more and more people have, it takes away that littering excuse.
 

evident

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oregon has the most microbrews in the US. i think doing this will hurt their sales
 

BoomerD

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As a smoker who gets tired of having all the sin taxes levied on tobacco...I support the idea of putting a $5.00 tax on a six-pack of beer, $10 on a bottle of wine, and $25 on a bottle of hard liquor.

But then again, like the non-smokers who support increased cigarette taxes, I don't drink, so tax away on the booze...it doesn't affect me.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
As a smoker who gets tired of having all the sin taxes levied on tobacco...I support the idea of putting a $5.00 tax on a six-pack of beer, $10 on a bottle of wine, and $25 on a bottle of hard liquor.

But then again, like the non-smokers who support increased cigarette taxes, I don't drink, so tax away on the booze...it doesn't affect me.
It sucks for the drunken smokers.
 

night

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Originally posted by: Thump553
CAD-you must be too young to remember life before the bottle deposit laws. There was tons of litter along all highways in the sixties due to the "convenience" of no-deposit bottles. It was a change well worth making. Rinse out your bottles and man-up. If a bottle return center is the worst place you go, you have a charmed life.


ya... had to look that up. had no clue
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: night
Originally posted by: Thump553
CAD-you must be too young to remember life before the bottle deposit laws. There was tons of litter along all highways in the sixties due to the "convenience" of no-deposit bottles. It was a change well worth making. Rinse out your bottles and man-up. If a bottle return center is the worst place you go, you have a charmed life.


ya... had to look that up. had no clue

What? Aluminum is 65 cents a pound right now. People everywhere are scrambling for that easy money. ;)

* It takes 28 empty cans to make a pound of aluminum.