Profiles in Courage vs Profile in Cowardism

[Queasy]

Courageous American Soldier
Another Courageous Soldier


Conscience Objector or Coward? - Seriously, how can you join the Marines, go through boot, and then get upset because you might have to kill people once you find out that your are being deployed?!?

 

[GTaudiophile]

This guy also came out of the closet recently.

Does that explain anything?

 

[HappyPuppy]

At first he said he was a conscientious objector. Then he said he's homosexual. This guy really, really doesn't want to go.

Toss him out with the trash.

 

[Queasy]

Or it could be just another way for him to try not to get deployed....

 

[HappyPuppy]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Or it could be just another way for to try not to get deployed....

No kidding.

 

[arcitech2]

I don't like or agree with him, but we don't need him. I would rather serve with men and women who want to be in the military. This young man just want's to have the benefits of our blood, sweat and tears. As far as I am concerned, he is rotten to the Corps.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Our troops are better off without him.

Edit: He's also a disgrace to the uniform.

 

[swifty3]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
This guy also came out of the closet recently.

Does that explain anything?

Just curious, but are you homophobic? Have some kind of prejudice against homosexuals?

 

[Morph]

He doesn't want to kill other human beings for an unjust war that he doesn't believe in. You f***in war-mongers just can't comprehend that, can you?!

 

[sandorski]

Klinger?

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Our troops are better off without him.

Edit: He's also a disgrace to the uniform.

Agreed on both counts. They need to give this guy plenty of time in the brig to think about his initial decision to join the military.

 

[Leon]

He doesn't want to kill other human beings for an unjust war that he doesn't believe in. You f***in war-mongers just can't comprehend that, can you?!

You he doesn't want to kill other human beings, why did he sign up for the military?

 

[calpha]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
At first he said he was a conscientious objector. Then he said he's homosexual. This guy really, really doesn't want to go.

Toss him out with the trash.

I'm at a big military town, and there's been more then one story in the past 10 years about guys getting out of their service contracts because they said they were gay , and they weren't. One of them actually got sent to Levenworth.

I suspect he joined with the hopeful expectation of not having to fight......because if he really was against the war, then he would have just been a conscientious objector, and not used his sexuality to his advantage as it would seem like he did. I can understand his desire to not go, and I can respect his objection to the war. But also using his sexuality at that time gives me strong doubts about his intentions.

But then again.......if he was being truthful, I'm glad he didn't go. Someone with reservations about doing his duty is not someone I want on my backside protecting my hide.

 

[rufruf44]

Then why did he join the military then? He should realizes that there's always a possibility he'll go to war and kill people for some reason.
He's nothing but a coward who took the easy way out.

 

[DoctorPizza]

You he doesn't want to kill other human beings, why did he sign up for the military?

He gave context -- he doesn't want to kill other human beings in an unjust war.

I would speculate that he joined up so that he could defend his nation/uphold his constitution (i.e. the things that soldiers are supposed to do).

Since this war is neither, he rightly feels aggrieved.

 

[owensdj]

Morph, you might have a point if that guy had been drafted into the military. He volunteered to be a Marine. IMO he doesn't have the right to pick and choose what wars he thinks are just and unjust. The US Congress and the President decided that it was in the interest of defending the nation to go to war with the regime of Saddam Hussein. That's all he needs to hear.

Morph, did you know that the majority of the popular vote went against Bill Clinton in the 1992 Presidential Election? That's right, most people didn't want him to have even been President.

The Presidental election is decided by the electoral vote, so it's meaningless to bring up the popular vote just because you don't like the result of the election.

 

[308nato]

War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

--John Stuart Mill

 

[Toasthead]

Since this guy is unwilling to do his job duties, can we make him repay all of his military pay? It seems only fair. I mean sheesh if I can get paid to hang out and train, but then just say I object when the $h1t hits the fan, then why not?

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: Morph
He doesn't want to kill other human beings for an unjust war that he doesn't believe in. You f***in war-mongers just can't comprehend that, can you?!

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Then WHY?! did he sign up? This guy is ridiculous

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: Morph
He doesn't want to kill other human beings for an unjust war that he doesn't believe in. You f***in war-mongers just can't comprehend that, can you?!

The why did the dipshit join the marines? As a marine you can be sent where ever the U.S. has an embassy. You may have to go to a place or a war you do not believe in to protect those embassies and kill people. The dipshit should have joined the coast guard at least.

 

[friedpie]

Originally posted by: Morph
He doesn't want to kill other human beings for an unjust war that he doesn't believe in. You f***in war-mongers just can't comprehend that, can you?!

That logic is so fallacious it is beyond comprehension. So yes, we just don't get why someone would join a MILITARY FIGHTING FORCE if they were opposed to killing someone. He could have joined the stinking Coast Guard (no offense to them, my cousin is retired CG) if he didn't want to kill anyone. The fact that he is a Marine makes it even worse. Marines are expected to kill people. The Air Force, which I served in, is not necessarily (the average airman are not expected to see combat like a Marine is) considered a combat force.

p.s. nowhere in the Yahoo page did it say he didn't want to fight in an UNJUST war as you said. That appears to be your spin. Maybe he said it somewhere else, but that was not what was presented here, so either post a link or stop embellishing to fit your own silly agenda.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Morph
He doesn't want to kill other human beings for an unjust war that he doesn't believe in. You f***in war-mongers just can't comprehend that, can you?!

Well....I was going to write a response to you, but I decided to just cut and paste my response to you from this thread

Some of the pieces don't exactly fit this thread....but the general idea is the same...

You're an asshole and need to go on a vacation. Better yet you need to go somewhere far far away where the rest of the gutless, spineless, sub-humans live. Maybe there you can surround yourself with other morons who have nothing better to do than come into a thread about an incredibly brave man doing his best to save an American, an American by the way who is 10000 times the person you will ever be, life and make an amazingly insensitive and stupid comment. Compared to her you are nothing more than the lowest form of scum on the Earth.

Mods send me on vacation if you must....but it cannot be argued that morph is not a worthless puddle of donkey piss. He's proven it time and again in these forums and by God he needs to be taken to task for it.

 

[sandorski]

It's obvious the guy had a reason, Morph could be right, or it could be something else. Just take note, you can't choose what war you fight after joining the military, so if you have concerns over "types" of war, remain a civilian.

 

[ConclamoLudus]

I disagree with him, and I think he's foolish. But he made a choice, and he'll face the consequences. Its better to have him in the brig than quietly whining on the front lines.

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: Morph
He doesn't want to kill other human beings for an unjust war that he doesn't believe in. You f***in war-mongers just can't comprehend that, can you?!

Actually yes i can comprehend that. But the fact that claims he didn't realize that becoming a marine would mean he may have to kill people is ludicrous. Anyonw who can honestly say that they didn't know that marines kill people and break things has to have been living in a bubble totally cutoff from any contact with another human being. My take on it is maybe he really does have a problem with having to kill people or just as likely maybe he has a problem with people trying to kill him. In either case he had no business becoming a marine reservist and enjoying the benefits of that status. Those things are reserved for the people that are ready and willing lay down their lives to preserve our constitution and our right to be foolish and call people "f***in war-mongers".

Thanks for the great sig materiel Shinerburke