Profiled today

[SlitheryDee]

I know a retired teacher. She's in her 60s now. We had a talk one day about profiling, and she told me that when she goes into a store, security stares at her and will actually follow her around until she leaves. She's well educated. Has a masters in education. Also, has apartments in the area that generate 6 figures a year. Yet, she gets stared at and gets treated like a criminal. I wouldn't think you people would understand since many people here are white and male. I'm a white man myself, but I can at least sympathize with the OP.

Ok here's what I hear when I read this post:

Educated black woman --> Likely strong liberal beliefs --> Interest in justifying those beliefs anecdotally --> Strong probability of confirmation bias in recounted stories.

 

[eng2d2]

OP gave no context to the staring, and unlike your example of the retired teacher, he wasn't followed. Should the deputy and or guard not look at anyone? Maybe OP's behavior drew attention to them. Maybe he was the youngest person walking in with a group of 60+ year olds. It is unclear what the circumstances were, just that he was stared at. Hardly the worst "profiling" thing to happen to someone.

Point is, it's their job to look at people coming in.

Look but don't stare. Not a good business practice(staring)if you ask me. Security guard in this situation was a better profiler than the deputy.

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Look but don't stare. Not a good business practice(staring)if you ask me. Security guard in this situation was a better profiler than the deputy.

Ah, so you are ok with profiling as long as it's not you being profiled. Got it.

 

[feralkid]

Felt weird to say the least being stared at as I don't even own a gun.

There's your problem; he was no-doubt wondering what kind of un-American freak enters a government building without packing heat?

 

[eng2d2]

Ah, so you are ok with profiling as long as it's not you being profiled. Got it.

Actually everyone should be profiled across the board.

 

[Mai72]

I'm just saying we should sympathize with OP.

: (

 

[cronos]

Walked in a government building to pay tax that is usually manned by a security guard and surprise to see a deputy with security guard assigned there. The deputy stared at me and I had to look back for the stare. I am brown skin but not a muslim or arabic look.

I can guarantee you 100% that you do have a 'muslim look'.

And if you don't know why, then you need to go and find out.

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Actually everyone should be profiled across the board.

Now you have me confused.

You start a thread complaining about being profiled, stating you were stared at for a length of time. There were no other circumstances regarding this profiling you provided except for your race. You are upset that the deputy stared at you because their profiling lead them, you feel, to believe something incorrect about you.

This leads me to think you are upset that people profile in general because inaccuracies in profiling can lead to situations like the one you posted about, though in this instance not really a "situation".

You then state you are ok with the guard because, whether through profiling or just not caring at the time, he didn't stare at you. This lead you to believe he is a better profiler since he did not target you. You further state you are ok with being profiled in general, and think everyone should be "profiled across the board".

I don't understand what your point in this thread is now. Sorry you were stared at, I guess. Maybe you reminded him of someone he helped. Someone he knows. Maybe he recognized you and was trying to determine where from. Maybe he thought you were attractive and couldn't help himself. Or maybe he's racist. I don't know.

But more to the point, you don't know either.

 

[eng2d2]

Now you have me confused.

You start a thread complaining about being profiled, stating you were stared at for a length of time. There were no other circumstances regarding this profiling you provided except for your race. You are upset that the deputy stared at you because their profiling lead them, you feel, to believe something incorrect about you.

This leads me to think you are upset that people profile in general because inaccuracies in profiling can lead to situations like the one you posted about, though in this instance not really a "situation".

You then state you are ok with the guard because, whether through profiling or just not caring at the time, he didn't stare at you. This lead you to believe he is a better profiler since he did not target you. You further state you are ok with being profiled in general, and think everyone should be "profiled across the board".

I don't understand what your point in this thread is now. Sorry you were stared at, I guess. Maybe you reminded him of someone he helped. Someone he knows. Maybe he recognized you and was trying to determine where from. Maybe he thought you were attractive and couldn't help himself. Or maybe he's racist. I don't know.

But more to the point, you don't know either.

Wasn't really complaining. Just made a statement on my observation today. I don't think its good business. Looking at it in a business POV.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Actually everyone should be profiled across the board.

That's exactly what happened. The guy profiled everyone present and by his criteria you represented the highest potential threat, therefore he focused in on you.

What do you think profiling is? It isn't knowing with certainty who presents a threat regardless of religion, race, gender, clothing or skin tone. It's using things like religion, race, gender, clothing, and skin tone to make YOUR BEST GUESS at who presents the most threat.

As he surveyed the assorted people moving through the government building, the guy's thought process was probably something like:

white middle aged woman = no threat
white twenty something male = low to moderate threat
octogenarian black woman = no threat
middle aged asian guy = no threat
Middle aged hispanic male = low to moderate threat
young arabic man = medium to high threat --> highest threat present

Then of course he focused on what he considered to be the highest threat present.

 

[nakedfrog]

Ok here's what I hear when I read this post:

Educated black woman --> Likely strong liberal beliefs --> Interest in justifying those beliefs anecdotally --> Strong probability of confirmation bias in recounted stories.

I figured she was just being tailed because old people are known to steal stuff sometimes. Didn't assume she was black.

 

[eng2d2]

That's exactly what happened. The guy profiled everyone present and by his criteria you represented the highest potential threat, therefore he focused in on you.

What do you think profiling is? It isn't knowing with certainty who presents a threat regardless of religion, race, gender, clothing or skin tone. It's using things like religion, race, gender, clothing, and skin tone to make YOUR BEST GUESS at who presents the most threat.

The guy's thought process was something like:

white middle aged woman = no threat
white twenty something male = low to moderate threat
octogenarian black woman = no threat
middle aged asian guy = no threat
Middle aged hispanic male = low to moderate threat
young arabic man = medium to high threat --> highest threat present

Then of course he focused on what he considered to be the highest threat present.

Profiling is different from being stared at. You look at someone that is suspicious. You put that in the back of your mind as very suspicious as I am perceived. You dont need to follow and stare. You are aware that he is suspicious. YOur guard is up that he will do something sinister. I conduct my business with no issue and because of that, the threat is over.

My observation today was very surprised that there is a deputy station at the building. I noticed he was staring at me. I look back and he was still staring. I diffused it by not looking at him and to conduct my business. In my mind this person is not good for business.

 

[Ns1]

Profiling is different from being stared at. You look at someone that is suspicious. You put that in the back of your mind as very suspicious as I am perceived. You dont need to follow and stare. You are aware that he is suspicious. YOur guard is up that he will do something sinister. I conduct my business with no issue and because of that, the threat is over.

My observation today was very surprised that there is a deputy station at the building. I noticed he was staring at me. I look back and he was still staring. I diffused it by not looking at him and to conduct my business. In my mind this person is not good for business.

you're actually being gangstalked bro.

 

[Ruptga]

I choose to believe this is a sockpuppet thread, because otherwise I'd have to be depressed by the stupid.

 

[Pulsar]

security was really nice to me only the deputy.

Deputy was mean because he looked at you funny. Quick, call a personal injury lawyer.

 

[disappoint]

Prolifed today.

I prolifed today man. No I didn't attack a Planned Parenthood. I went to a Trump rally and I yelled: "Trump you dimwit! You're going to hand all the Muslims over to ISIS to be radicalized by shunning them! Also your hair looks like an aborted orangutan fetus!"

Then I ran away before they could taze me.

Hey self preservation man. Self preservation. Don't judge me!

 

[Humpy]

I noticed he was staring at me. I look back and he was still staring. I diffused it by not looking at him and to conduct my business. In my mind this person is not good for business.

You and the security guys were all thinking the exact same thing.

 

[CPA]

Typical answers coming from a white audience. News flash: Until you've been profiled you will never EVER understand what people of color go through when they shop and go about their business.

I know a retired teacher. She's in her 60s now. We had a talk one day about profiling, and she told me that when she goes into a store, security stares at her and will actually follow her around until she leaves. She's well educated. Has a masters in education. Also, has apartments in the area that generate 6 figures a year. Yet, she gets stared at and gets treated like a criminal. I wouldn't think you people would understand since many people here are white and male. I'm a white man myself, but I can at least sympathize with the OP.

Because security knows she has a masters, is well educated and lives in an affluent area. Yep, they know that when they use their facial recognition software and pull up her tax records, birth certificate, college background and last flu shot.

 

[CPA]

Wasn't really complaining. Just made a statement on my observation today. I don't think its good business. Looking at it in a business POV.

Business? LOL, it's a f'in government agency. If you want to feel real low, head over to the DMV where they could give a rat's ass about how well the provide "good business".

That said, I think you're trolling.

 

[disappoint]

Because security knows she has a masters, is well educated and lives in an affluent area. Yep, they know that when they use their facial recognition software and pull up her tax records, birth certificate, college background and last flu shot.

You wait till Google and Facebook merge. There will be an app for that.

 

[CPA]

Profiling is different from being stared at. You look at someone that is suspicious. You put that in the back of your mind as very suspicious as I am perceived. You dont need to follow and stare. You are aware that he is suspicious. YOur guard is up that he will do something sinister. I conduct my business with no issue and because of that, the threat is over.

My observation today was very surprised that there is a deputy station at the building. I noticed he was staring at me. I look back and he was still staring. I diffused it by not looking at him and to conduct my business. In my mind this person is not good for business.

You were surprised there was a deputy in a government building? When's the last time you were in a government building?

 

[disappoint]

You were surprised there was a deputy in a government building? When's the last time you were in a government building?

He doesn't remember. He hit his head after they tazed him and he dropped like a sack of potatoes.

 

[OutHouse]

Walked in a government building to pay tax that is usually manned by a security guard and surprise to see a deputy with security guard assigned there. The deputy stared at me and I had to look back for the stare. I am brown skin but not a muslim or arabic look. Is this the sign of times? Would it be different if I walk in with my caucasian wife? Would a white person get the same stare down? I might as well wear black ninja outfit with a mask and get the same stare down. Felt weird to say the least being stared at as I don't even own a gun.

FAIL.

 

[eng2d2]

Business? LOL, it's a f'in government agency. If you want to feel real low, head over to the DMV where they could give a rat's ass about how well the provide "good business".

That said, I think you're trolling.

I used to believe that but at the end of day it is still a business if you think about it. It's not the old days anymore where they can tell you to FU.

Answer to your other question. Some govt. agency do not have deputy in the building. The health officer are against having law enforcement in their building.

 

[Joepublic2]

Typical answers coming from a white audience. News flash: Until you've been profiled you will never EVER understand what people of color go through when they shop and go about their business.

Really? I've done business in majority black and Latino establishments and gotten piercing stares, scowls, frowns and incredulous looks. Maybe I should have started a thread to cry about how uncomfortable it made me. I mean it didn't make me uncomfortable because I'm not an insecure baby, but you get my point.

So.... he looked at you. He didn't prevent you from walking into the building, stop you from conducting your business, didn't speak to you to find out why you were there.... just stared at you?

Maybe he was checking you out? How attractive would you say you are on a scale of 1-10?