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processor intensive task - ivy or wait for haswell?

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bkzed

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hi
my primary use is 3d rendering. you know its processor hungry when it comes to rendering. so i want upgrade from lynfield. what u guys suggest price performance wise

sb-e is already there but expensive. what about ivy and haswell will i get more processing power compaered to sb?
 
If you need it now, get it now. The IB is a few months away and haswell is about 14 months away. It really depends what you already have.
 
obviously haswell will be faster but like seven says, if you need something now, get ivy which you still need to wait a bit.
 
Depends how much money your time is worth. A 2011 hex core would be in its element with 3d rendering software but you would have to weigh up the pros (Less time spent rendering) against the cons (greatly increased cost).

Have you looked into bulldozer, the FX8150 seem to trade blows with the 2500K in anands cinebench tests although you will be chugging down a lot more juice from the wall especially if you overclock.
 
bkzed said:
hi
my primary use is 3d rendering. you know its processor hungry when it comes to rendering. so i want upgrade from lynfield. what u guys suggest price performance wise

sb-e is already there but expensive. what about ivy and haswell will i get more processing power compaered to sb?
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1) What 3D rendering app are you using?

2) Do you overclock?

3) Is electricity/power-consumption a deciding factor?

4) Budget?

5) How much ram do you have now, how much ram do you want in new system?

6) Are you setup with SSD?

7) Do you do anything else with this rig? Gaming? Office apps? Other?
 
Haswell will bring more performance on the gpu side... which is what i've read. If your tasks are cpu bound, then get Ivybridge, as Haswell will have only minor improvements. Well, there's the ISA's that they are including, which may give you noticeable jump, but that depends on your software provider. Given they are both on 22nm, i expect not so much difference in power draw either.

Of course, for gaming and all, just add a discrete gpu.
 
Ask the vendor of your rendering software if you would benefit from more cores. The difference between SB & IVB won't be very dramatic.
 
bkzed said:
my primary use is 3d rendering. you know its processor hungry when it comes to rendering. so i want upgrade from lynfield. what u guys suggest price performance wise

sb-e is already there but expensive. what about ivy and haswell will i get more processing power compaered to sb?
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Wait for Haswell. It will have double the peak processing power per core.
 
Puppies04 said:
moar cores!!!!111!!!
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Idontcare said:
1) What 3D rendering app are you using?

2) Do you overclock?

3) Is electricity/power-consumption a deciding factor?

4) Budget?

5) How much ram do you have now, how much ram do you want in new system?

6) Are you setup with SSD?

7) Do you do anything else with this rig? Gaming? Office apps? Other?
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1) What 3D rendering app are you using?
3dsmax and Vray or Maya and Renderman
2) Do you overclock?
Yes I can
3) Is electricity/power-consumption a deciding factor?
Yes
4) Budget?
$1000 - $1200
5) How much ram do you have now, how much ram do you want in new system?
now 16GB, I want atleast 32GB
6) Are you setup with SSD?

I would like my OS on SSD atleast
7) Do you do anything else with this rig? Gaming? Office apps? Other?
Yes, but mainly this will be used for 3D rendering work, I will have Nvidia Quadro FX3800 in new system which I already have in my old system
 
If you want 32GB now with an option to expand it later the only platform supporting that is 2011, with 8GB DIMMs and 8 DIMM slots on the motherboard. I was pricing some components on newegg but I already ended up at $1300
CPU 3930K - $599 (out of stock)
MB - Intel X79 - $209
4*8GB RAM XMS3 1333 - $279
SSD - Intel 520 120GB - $229

If this is too expensive you could go for socket 1155/Ivy and still get 32GB RAM, but you won't be able to expand it later on. Quadcore Ivy Bridge is also the end of the road for 1155. Socket 2011 is expected to get 8-core Ivy Bridge in the future. Of course, with 2011 CPUs being as expensive as they are, swapping out the motherboard and CPU on the cheaper 1155 platform would cost at most the same as getting a 2011 CPU upgrade or probably less.
 
where are the sb-e processors? I feel like I have been waiting forever. We only have westmere xeons still.

I'm looking at the 1650 as a nice 6 core cpu and only $500 compared to the 1660 at $1k but the wait is killing me.
 
JSt0rm said:
where are the sb-e processors? I feel like I have been waiting forever. We only have westmere xeons still.

I'm looking at the 1650 as a nice 6 core cpu and only $500 compared to the 1660 at $1k but the wait is killing me.
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What are you talking about? They have been out since November.
 
Intel17 said:
Just like SNB has twice the theoretical floating point throughput of NHM but is only about ~12% better in real world apps per clock? 😛
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Not at all. FMA is already part of most compilers and OSes. Also part of most GPU accelerated applications. The transition to FMA (and other Haswell instructions) will be much quicker and widespread than AVX was for SB.
 
JSt0rm said:
So by march? I feel like sb-e will be shortlived as ivybridge xeon parts should be right there too.
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Last I heard, they were approximately a year out, maybe Intel can pull it in a bit, but the delays with IVB will probably affect the IVB-EPs as well.
 
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