Problems with my 7900gt

zylander

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I just bought an evga 7900gt CO superclocked from another member here on AT (who will remain nameless). I just got it in the mail today and just now put it in. When I boot up, the screen is all distorted and there are lines everywhere. Here are two pictures;

DFI Lanparty Logo screen

BIOS

I tried the card in both PCI-E slots. I tried both of the DVI plugs and I get the same thing. I also checked the GPU and ram voltage on the card. The GPU is running at 1.19v and the ram is running at 1.99 volts. Are these the stock voltages? I thought the stock GPU voltage was 1.3, correct me if I'm wrong.

Any idea whats wrong with this card? I havent don anything to it since I have gotten it other than put it in my computer. Any chance of getting this repaired by EVGA?

edit: rest of my system specs;

A64 3000+
2gb OCZ ram
Antec Neo Power 430W PSU
 

Doctorweir

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1.2v is default core voltage, yes..and 2.0 for mem is also ok...
Looks like a distortion from a cracked core...is the stock cooler still on? Has the pre-owner removed it for an aftermarket heatsink and re-attached it?

The cores are really sensible and some Ebay buyer tried to fool me on that one... Also re-attached the aftermarket heatsink and cracked the core edges...than he complained to me about the distorted picture...well needless to say I told him to get lost as he already paid and it was completely his fault... :roll:
 

akshayt

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isn't your power supply less for that?
try with another power supply.
Possible that your card has gone though.
 

domoMKIV

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could be this:

Shortly after the initial launch of the 7900GT CO/KO/Superclock series, a trend of hardware instability became more and more prevalent. Some symptoms of the unusually large number of defective cards include: artifacting while rendering graphics in graphics benchmarks such as 3DMark03, 3DMark05, 3DMark06 (all programmed by Futuremark, Inc.) Futuremark and Aquamark3, artifacting while playing games, BSODs (blue screens of death), total system restarts, and blinking screen.

A large batch of the 7900GT XX (note: XX may signify CO/KO/SC variants of the 7900GT) are believed to have defective and/or malfunctioning memory modules, thus causing instability and ultimately, total card failure. Another proposed cause of large-scale instability among the 7900GT XX include undervolting from the factory. That is, the 7900GT XX run at a 1.2 volt GPU core voltage, while their higher end relatives, the 7900GTX, have 1.4 volt GPU voltages, thus permitting higher clock frequencies (GPU/RAM). The 1.2 core volt coupled with factory clocks of up to 520/770 (1540 effective) may suggest that the core voltage is simply too low to allow for higher clock speeds. Another point to note is that the 7900GT XX and the 7900GTX are both based around the exact same core, featuring a 90nm process, allowing for a smaller die size and fewer total transistors within the core itself; it now becomes apparent that the 7900GT XX are actually meant to run at 1.4 volts, much like the 7900GTX, but are factory undervolted to 1.2 volts, for whatever reason nVidia may propose for doing this.

A term dubbed by myself and another fellow, known as the 'Fourth Day Syndrome' is in reference to the fact that many nVidia patrons who have purchased a 7900GT XX from a sub-manufacturer such as eVGA have frequently run into the aforementioned hardware failures synonymous with a significant number of 7900GT XX after the fourth day of using the card itself. The Fourth Day Syndrome itself is very likely a mere coincidence, but it may be a trend within a subset of the defective cards; something triggers massive card failure after four days, for an unknown reason. Recent speculation has determined the this Fourth Day Syndrome is most likely a continuation of the batch of 7900GTs with defective RAM. This batch first apeared with stock clocks of 520/1540, however the current KOs are clocked at 500/1500.

We believe that nVidia decided to downclock the core and RAM so that the problems with the defective RAM would propogate less often in the average user (who leaves their system at stock clock speeds). We are assuming of course that nVidia and its subcontractors are working to resolve this problem, and the future revisions of the card should be free of any defects. Currently, cards containing BIOS revisions up to 05.71.22.14.15 have had confirmed instances of Fourth Day Syndrome. Also note that even though this trend is common in enthusiast groups (such as EOCF), the actual number of defective GPUs makes up somewhere between five and ten precent of total 7900GT sales, based on RMA numbers.

which evga addressed:
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1029472994&postcount=79
 

zylander

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Thanks for the info domo. I emailed Joe Darwin at evga. The link he supplied in his post at hardforum no longer works so we'll see if anything happens with evga.

Doctorweir; The card came with a zalman vf-700 already on it, so it sounds like a cracked core might be a possibility, Ill examine it more closely tomorrow.

Also, could anyone confirm if my PSU is enough for this card? If its running at 1.2v then its obviously getting enough power so does that automatically mean my PSU is enough?
 

Doctorweir

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PSU is enough...even with my heavily overclocked 7900GT my rig consumes only ~270W under full 3D load

VF700Cu sounds familiar to me...easy to crack the core with as it can tilt back and forth on the core edges even when mounted and also during install, when the screws are not tightened / loosened alternating bit by bit...
 

zylander

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Well, Evga called me this morning and they said judging by my pictures I deffinitely had a core or mem problem. They said they would RMA the card for me a cross ship me a new one. Thanks for all the help everyone.
 

Fallengod

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Well good for you. Hopefully the person you bought it off of didnt know it was broken when he sold it to you. That sounds a bit fishy to me. Anyways, id pm the guy you bought it from to at least PAY for the cost of shipping to the RMA department. At least its replaceable. This is the reason I wont buy any other company than EVGA or BFG. :thumbsup:
 

zylander

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Ive been in contact with the guy I bought it from, he has been very helpful. He did not know it was broken, the zalman that was on the card was installed by the owner that HE bought it from. The seller did offer to pay for my shipping charges, but since I am doing cross shipping, EVGA is paying for all of that. This is the first evga product I have ever bought, and although the card was broken, I am still very impressed with EVGA, they called me 12 hours after I emailed them and told me exactly what I needed to do, they were very helpful.

As for the card; I removed the zalman fan and found the problem. Aparently the first owner who installed the zalman heatsink did it VERY carelessly. as you can see from teh following picture (sorry for the poor quality) all four corners of the core are cracked and the core itself is scratched and is obviously in poor condition.

GPU Core


This next picture is of the bottom of the zalman heatsink. The darkened areas are actually where the corners of hte GPU core DUG into the heatsink. This thing was tightened down way too much and there are now grooves and scratches in the heatsink.

Zalman Heatsink


edit: one more question. When applying an aftermarket heatsink to a video card, can I use any type of thermal paste? I have some AS3 from when I put in my last CPU that can be used on a GPU too right?
 

GundamSonicZeroX

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edit: one more question. When applying an aftermarket heatsink to a video card, can I use any type of thermal paste? I have some AS3 from when I put in my last CPU that can be used on a GPU too right?[/quote]
Yes. you can use thermal paste.