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Finns14

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So I just started playng on my new comp and things are going ok (the onboard sound is junk but thats another issue) So when every I'm not doing anything in game my FPS is great 100+ constantly but whenever I get into a fire fight my frame rate drops badly. Is it possible that its my CPU bottlenecking??

The specs that matter are

eVGA 7800GT
A64 3200+
2X512 MB corsair value select

Heat is not an issue I don't think because the hottest I've seen my internal temp to be is 94-95 F that temp is specific to parts but I could imagien them getting that much hotter.
 
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TheoPetro

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i doubt its a cpu bottleneck. im running the system in my sig ane ive got source running 1920x1200 all max 2xaa 4xaf and i get 99fps on average
 
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Finns14

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any idea what the problem is then I don't think its my rates i really think this is a hardware issue
 
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Mavrick007

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That sounds strange. Your machine would run laps around mine and everything was playable on my old machine even before I upgraded my vid card.

When you say you are dropping frames badly, how badly are we talking? How many people on screen during the frame drops?

Anything overclocked? Heat concerns?
 
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Finns14

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I just notice that its happening in COD2 as well is there anyway to monitor my Vid card temps I just have one thermometer inside the case which is reading ~95 at max strain and but a bad frame drop i mean to the point where the game freezes for a second. like 2-3 fps
 
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TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: Finns14
I just notice that its happening in COD2 as well is there anyway to monitor my Vid card temps I just have one thermometer inside the case which is reading ~95 at max strain and but a bad frame drop i mean to the point where the game freezes for a second. like 2-3 fps
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What are your in game settings and what drivers are you using, and is anything overclocked??
 
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Finns14

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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: Finns14
I just notice that its happening in COD2 as well is there anyway to monitor my Vid card temps I just have one thermometer inside the case which is reading ~95 at max strain and but a bad frame drop i mean to the point where the game freezes for a second. like 2-3 fps
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What are your in game settings and what drivers are you using, and is anything overclocked??
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I'm using the most up to date drivers, nothing is over clocked, I used the games recommended setting then after noticing the problems started to turn down the settings.
 
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skylord23

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sounds like a driver conflict. this has happened to me before. try a slightly older driver and make sure you have proper monitor drivers installed. also check motherboard drivers.
 
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Finns14

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hmm I just updated my MOBO drivers so maybe I will try that. What does a drivers conflict mean exactly?
 
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Finns14

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Ok so I went back to an older driver version for my MOBO I think maybe tomorrow I will try a different one for the vid card. Is there anyway to check temps of your vid card?
 
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imported_electron

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Wild guess here but maybe it's using up more ram and you've only got 1 gig. I can easily surpass my gig of ram and end up going to virtual memory in some cases, but I don't play CS:S so I don't know if that'd do it. See if your HD light comes on when you get the slowdowns.
 
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zagood

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Basic rules to optimize for video games:

1) Run antivirus/antispyware
2) Defrag your hard drive(s). Make sure there's at least 10gb free on the drive.
3) Set your Virtual Memory to twice your RAM
4) Make sure all drivers are current especially VGA and mobo.
5) Shut down all background applications when playing. Antivirus, messenger, yahoo, etc.

You can check your video card temps through the nVidia control panel under "Temperature Monitoring" in Windows. You can also set up something like SpeedFan and run that in the background, it's usually able to read your VGA temps. It'll log your temperatures as you're playing.

-z
 
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Mavrick007

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CSS is NOT that demanding at all. I was playing it fine with a GF4/AXP 3200+/1Gig machine so his machine would have no problems running pretty much any resolution.

I think you might have a driver conflict or something else is happening. Heat will make your video card to throttle down the speed, which would occur when lots of action occurs onscreen. It shouldn't be that bad of a throttle if your cooling is adequate, especially with no overclocking.

As zagood was saying, go to your nVidia properties and access the temperature monitor within the control panel. From there you should be able to leave it open and it will continue to record the temperature when you are in your game. After you find a place where it is slowing down, exit your game, and check your temperatures that were just recorded. If the temperature is really high, then you may need to rearrange things in your case or add another fan.
 
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Sforsyth

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I had troubles with BF2 and CS:S stuttered real bad turns out it was my on-board sound I put in a cheap PCI card and it stopped.
 
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imported_electron

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Originally posted by: Sforsyth
I had troubles with BF2 and CS:S stuttered real bad turns out it was my on-board sound I put in a cheap PCI card and it stopped.
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Wow really? That's odd. I have NF3 onboard sound and when I play mp3s in winamp I only get about 2% CPU usage spikes every couple of seconds and I'm pretty sure that's only when it's loading the song from the HD because most of the time CPU utilization is at 0% while the mp3 is still playing. I know winamp isn't the same as a video game but i just find it hard to believe that onboard sound alone can account for this.
 
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ghost image your current o/s.. or just reinstall from scratch to take that outa the equation
 
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Finns14

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hmm I can't disable onboard sound and record ingame CPU levels but if I turn the onboard sound back on I can't isolate if thats the problem
 
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