Problems installing new graphics card

[Redvers]

I have been trying to install the GeForce 6200 PCI 128Mb. This is a brand new card purchased two days ago. The manufacturer is 3dFuzion.

Just can't get the drivers to work/install correctly. Half the time I am told that the installation was successful but on rebooting the system prompts me to install the drivers again. When I check the device manager the GeForce 6200 is not to be seen and the drivers are not there. Device manager tells me that the display adapter is Video Controller (VGA Compatible). I have noticed that the IRQ for this card is 10 and it shares that with the USB ports. I do not know how to change this.

The previous graphics card was a GeForce 2 Ti400. I uninstalled the drivers before inserting the new card. I have updated all system drivers for chipset and motherboard, etc. My system is a Medion with AMD Athlon 1600+, 768Mb RAM, 2x 80Gb hard drives.

Have tried calling the product support number but the message tells me to call back during normal office hours, supposedly between 8am and 5pm CST. I think they must be on holiday.

I will be very grateful for any suggestions.

 

[ttimbo75]

I have a general rule that I format my drive every time I upgrade a video card. I have had lots of un explainable issues and low performance in the past when I have not done this. I think this is your best bet to get up and running fast. If this does not fix it, feel free to hate me lol

You should also go right to the Nvidia site and get the latest driver from there. Always the best bet to get the latest driver, don't bother with the bundled cd for drivers.

 

[Redvers]

Tried the latest nVidia drivers and get same problem. Formatting drive will be absolutely last resort since I did that six months ago.

 

[meltdown75]

Hi there & welcome.

Have you tried using "Driver Cleaner"? This is a handy app especially with nvidia products. Google it and download the latest version, try it and post back to see if you had any different results.

 

[Redvers]

Tried Driver Cleaner and it made no difference whatsoever. Completely baffled.

 

[boomerang]

I think your card is dead.

Edit: You might want to run the Check Disk utility. Also, take a close look at the slot. Check for scrunched connectors.

As a last resort, try the old card again to see if it still works. If it does, it's your new card.

 

[rasczak]

could you tell us a little ore about your setup? mobo, cpu, old video card, pci, pcie or agp? or onboard? if on board did you go into your bios and switch the primary display adapter to agp and disable onboard video?


that would help out our troubleshooting.

btw welcome to the forums

 

[Redvers]

Have tried card in two PCI slots. Same result. No scrunched connections.

Here is info about my system -

Processor
Model : AMD Athlon(tm) XP processor 1600+
Speed : 1.40GHz
Model Number : 1600 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR2030 (estimated)
Cores per Processor : 1 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s)
Internal Data Cache : 64kB Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way set, 64 byte line size
L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way set, 64 byte line size

Mainboard
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
MP Support : 1 Processor(s)
MP APIC : Yes
System BIOS : Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG
System : MEDIONPC 8366-8233
Mainboard : MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD MS-6382
Total Memory : 768MB DDR-SDRAM

Chipset 1
Model : VIA Technologies Inc VT8366/A,VT8367 Apollo KT266/A,KT333 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 133MHz (266MHz data rate)
Total Memory : 768MB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 133MHz (266MHz data rate)

Video System
Adapter : Video Controller (VGA Compatible)

Physical Storage Devices
Removable Drive : Floppy disk drive
Hard Disk : ST380011A (75GB)
Hard Disk : ST380020A (75GB)
CD-ROM/DVD : IDE DVD-ROM 16X (CD 40X Rd) (DVD 5X Rd)

Logical Storage Devices
1.44MB 3.5" (A : N/A
Hard Disk (C : 75GB (42GB, 57% Free Space) (NTFS)
Boot (D : 37GB (7GB, 19% Free Space) (NTFS)
Backup (E : 34GB (21GB, 60% Free Space) (NTFS)
Recover (F : 3.1GB (1.8GB, 58% Free Space) (FAT32)
Wxhoem_en (G : 588MB (CDFS)

MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : Game Port for Creative
Device : Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS (WDM)
Device : Creative Game Port
Device : Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)

Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Home (Win32 x86) 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 2)

Network Services
Adapter : NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethernet Adapter (NGRPCI) #3

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: Redvers
Have tried card in two PCI slots. Same result. No scrunched connections.

Here is info about my system -

Processor
Model : AMD Athlon(tm) XP processor 1600+
Speed : 1.40GHz
Model Number : 1600 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR2030 (estimated)
Cores per Processor : 1 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s)
Internal Data Cache : 64kB Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way set, 64 byte line size
L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way set, 64 byte line size

Mainboard
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
MP Support : 1 Processor(s)
MP APIC : Yes
System BIOS : Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG
System : MEDIONPC 8366-8233
Mainboard : MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD MS-6382
Total Memory : 768MB DDR-SDRAM

Chipset 1
Model : VIA Technologies Inc VT8366/A,VT8367 Apollo KT266/A,KT333 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 133MHz (266MHz data rate)
Total Memory : 768MB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 133MHz (266MHz data rate)

Video System
Adapter : Video Controller (VGA Compatible)

Physical Storage Devices
Removable Drive : Floppy disk drive
Hard Disk : ST380011A (75GB)
Hard Disk : ST380020A (75GB)
CD-ROM/DVD : IDE DVD-ROM 16X (CD 40X Rd) (DVD 5X Rd)

Logical Storage Devices
1.44MB 3.5" (A : N/A
Hard Disk (C : 75GB (42GB, 57% Free Space) (NTFS)
Boot (D : 37GB (7GB, 19% Free Space) (NTFS)
Backup (E : 34GB (21GB, 60% Free Space) (NTFS)
Recover (F : 3.1GB (1.8GB, 58% Free Space) (FAT32)
Wxhoem_en (G : 588MB (CDFS)

MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : Game Port for Creative
Device : Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS (WDM)
Device : Creative Game Port
Device : Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)

Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Home (Win32 x86) 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 2)

Network Services
Adapter : NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethernet Adapter (NGRPCI) #3

You bought a PCI graphics card for a system with an AGP bus? Hmm... that's odd. You might consider getting an AGP card; you'll get higher performance and pay less money too. Cards considerably faster than the 6200 are $75 - $100 if you check the hot deals forums....

My guess is you've a bad card. Is the BIOS set to use AGP devices first? Does the BIOS have any options to control the video device?

 

[SuperSilicon]

I reccomend a reformat as well when upgrading videocards. PCI cards are junk, might as well have onboard video.

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: SuperSilicon
I reccomend a reformat as well when upgrading videocards. PCI cards are junk, might as well have onboard video.

That really didn't make any sense..but oh well.

OP..did you go into the bios and have your video set to PCI instead of AGP?

 

[SuperSilicon]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: SuperSilicon
I reccomend a reformat as well when upgrading videocards. PCI cards are junk, might as well have onboard video.

That really didn't make any sense..but oh well.

OP..did you go into the bios and have your video set to PCI instead of AGP?

Makes perfect sence, someone else in the thread said you should reformat when u upgrade to another videocard (I definately agree). My statement about PCI videocards being junk (just like onboard video its junk) Gets the job done for web surfing and minor apps, but your not going to be doing anything video intensive.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: SuperSilicon
Makes perfect sence, someone else in the thread said you should reformat when u upgrade to another videocard (I definately agree). My statement about PCI videocards being junk (just like onboard video its junk) Gets the job done for web surfing and minor apps, but your not going to be doing anything video intensive.

We have two people that agree that one should reformat and reinstall when upgrading *VIDEO CARDS*?

I think reinstalling is absolutely nuts, particularly for something as simple as a video card change. Why in the world would anyone do this? PnP dynamically handles driver loads and unloads, and has since Windows 2000. For the other add-in programs that ATI and nVidia gives you, you can simply uninstall them. "Driver Cleaner" and all of that is unnecessary - just uninstall what you can, then pop the card out and put the new one in.

This machine, obviously, has other issues.

 

[Redvers]

Tried absolutely everything and then decided to reformat drive and reinstall Windows. Works fine now. There probably were some underlying issues but could not find anything.
Regarding PCI graphics card - I live and learn. Will get an AGP card next.

 

[ChonChon]

definetely. pci graphics are just not there, and never will be. especially when u have an AGP slot, take advantage of it. i have a GeForce FX5200 128MB and i can play KING KONG, F.E.A.R., DOOM3, QUAKE4, COD2, NFS: Most Wanted...

see where im going with this? i have only 512MB RAM (cuz i cant find my other 512 ) and a 1.66GHz CPU (Athlon 2000) only a lil faster, but ur RAM takes the slack. i can play every new game. of course not on the best quality, however i can play them at a comfortable level. unfortunately not for me because, as u can tell, im a hardcore gamer and need PCIe graphics which i will have pretty soon.

but if this card does what u want, there is no reason why u should regret buying it. just saying what i think

 

[Redvers]

I am beginning to regret getting PCI now. I was wrong about everything working fine too. Now that I have tried playing games or playing movies or anything where the graphics are needed, the PC slows down to the point that the only way to proceed is to reboot. It looks like it is frozen but it is not; just slowed right down. Have tried to run programs like Sandra Lite but that causes the same problem. The problem starts as soon as I try to run anything. Baffled more than before.

 

[rasczak]

have you gone into your bios and made sure that you set the display adapter to pci from agp?

 

[Redvers]

Yes, it is set to PCI. If there are any other BIOS options that need tweaking, please let me know.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: Redvers
I am beginning to regret getting PCI now. I was wrong about everything working fine too. Now that I have tried playing games or playing movies or anything where the graphics are needed, the PC slows down to the point that the only way to proceed is to reboot. It looks like it is frozen but it is not; just slowed right down. Have tried to run programs like Sandra Lite but that causes the same problem. The problem starts as soon as I try to run anything. Baffled more than before.

Have you tried a new / another card?

 

[Redvers]

GeForce 2 worked fine. The GeForce 6200 is new out of the box.

 

[dclive]

Hence suggesting, again, a problem with the card itself....

>>> My guess is you've a bad card.

 

[Redvers]

Guess I'll take it back to the shop.

 

[Redvers]

Took card back and got replacement. Popped it in machine and worked first time.



Thanks for all the suggestions.