problem with waterbed and floor...not sure on what to do.

[Aceman]

<< What if you cut out about a 4-by-4 foot area fo the carpet, replace the wood, and glue the carpet back down. It will save you time to pull the whole carpet up. >>



ARE YOU SMOKING CRACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We've got a young lady here that's going to go at this repair with a power screwdriver. Seaming carpet properly take YEARS of experience!

 

[N8Magic]

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<< What if you cut out about a 4-by-4 foot area fo the carpet, replace the wood, and glue the carpet back down. It will save you time to pull the whole carpet up. >>



ARE YOU SMOKING CRACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We've got a young lady here that's going to go at this repair with a power screwdriver. Seaming carpet properly take YEARS of experience! >>



Actually, replace lady with man in that last statement and you are absolutely 100% correct.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

ya calling me a lady???

 

[Aceman]

Whatever! I go by avitars! I'd honestly look in a pennysaver or classifieds for a cheap handyman if you don't have any friends that know construction

 

[dude]

If you're gonna screw the floorboard down, then use a drill and make a small hole in the carpet first. Then drill the screw almost all the way down and pull the carpet back up through the hole. It'll go through the head of the screw.

You can also remove the carpet and then look to see how it's put down. If it's with the double sided tape, just go to home depot and get some. If it's stapled down, you can staple it back. The staple guns are cheap. Also, if where the wall and floor meet is covered with a long piece of wood (I dunno what it's called), just pry it out with a small chisel or screw driver or hammer. Then do the drilling down of the wood if you want to. Then just hammer that long wood slab back.

Alternatively, if you don't think the screwing of the wood works, just get a plane and plane it down (if you have one). A plane is a device with a razor like device that sticks out a small slit in the middle of the plane. It's used to shave wood down.

Damn, I think I used alotta bad words and pharases above.

 

[BlueApple]

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<< What if you cut out about a 4-by-4 foot area fo the carpet, replace the wood, and glue the carpet back down. It will save you time to pull the whole carpet up. >>



ARE YOU SMOKING CRACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We've got a young lady here that's going to go at this repair with a power screwdriver. Seaming carpet properly take YEARS of experience! >>


If it is something like berber carpet, it will be hard to noice... right?

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

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<< What if you cut out about a 4-by-4 foot area fo the carpet, replace the wood, and glue the carpet back down. It will save you time to pull the whole carpet up. >>



ARE YOU SMOKING CRACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We've got a young lady here that's going to go at this repair with a power screwdriver. Seaming carpet properly take YEARS of experience! >>


If it is something like berber carpet, it will be hard to noice... right? >>


i dont think it will be noticeable, its fairly furry carpet.

the plane idea was not bad, except that i dont think i wanna pull up the carpet.

 

[Aceman]

Berber carpet is the most difficult carpet to seam.

BingBongWongFooey, PM me with where in Iowa you're at. I may be able to help or have a friend check it out.

 

[waggy]

Here is an idea! Why not call the landlord and take responsibility for your mistake?

When the landlord sales the house most people have someone inspect it before they buy it. When it is found out that you tried to cover it up you are looking at getting sued by the landlord.

IF you manage to make it look good and the buyer don?t pay for a inspection you can still be sued. IF the buyer finds out (within a limited amount of time) that there was serious damage to the floor and you tried to hide it then they can sue the seller to fix it he then can sue you.


Either way you should take responsibility for what you did and call him and tell him you want to fix this. If you own up to it who knows he might let you off easy. IF he finds out you tried to hide it from him he will come down hard as he can on you. I know I would if I was him.

 

[CStroman]

<< i do realize that i have to replace the whole piece of plywood, thats no problem, plywood is like what? 10 bucks a sheet or something like that? >>



I was at Home Depot tonight buying plywood, and ten bucks will get you a 2'x4'x3/4" sheet. I don't think that will be enough. A sheet of plywood for flooring will probably be about thirty bucks.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

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<< i do realize that i have to replace the whole piece of plywood, thats no problem, plywood is like what? 10 bucks a sheet or something like that? >>



I was at Home Depot tonight buying plywood, and ten bucks will get you a 2'x4'x3/4" sheet. I don't think that will be enough. A sheet of plywood for flooring will probably be about thirty bucks. >>


hm...


<< Here is an idea! Why not call the landlord and take responsibility for your mistake?

When the landlord sales the house most people have someone inspect it before they buy it. When it is found out that you tried to cover it up you are looking at getting sued by the landlord.

IF you manage to make it look good and the buyer don?t pay for a inspection you can still be sued. IF the buyer finds out (within a limited amount of time) that there was serious damage to the floor and you tried to hide it then they can sue the seller to fix it he then can sue you.


Either way you should take responsibility for what you did and call him and tell him you want to fix this. If you own up to it who knows he might let you off easy. IF he finds out you tried to hide it from him he will come down hard as he can on you. I know I would if I was him. >>


you make alot of good points...i may just do what you suggest, i just want to -at least- get some ideas on my possible options.

 

[Christoph]

Like Aceman said, you probably have particle board or strandboard underlayment that has swollen from the moisture. Nailing or screwing it down won't help. If it's still wet, it will keep decaying. Eventually a hole may develop in the floor.

To verify this, you might try to pull up a little of your carpet in a corner (perhaps even in a closet) and see what's underneath.

Is your gf's dad the kind of guy who likes to be asked for help? If so, ask him to take a look/give you advice.

Then talk to the landlord once you have a better idea what the problem is. The fact that you're being honest with the landlord will probably impress gf's dad. Chances are, the repair will involve pulling back the carpet, cutting out the underlayment, replacing it, and then re-laying the carpet.

Does your landlord generally work on the house himself? If so, he may decide to do this job himself--you could offer to help. Otherwise, he probably knows relatively cheap/reliable handmen.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

<< Like Aceman said, you probably have particle board or strandboard underlayment that has swollen from the moisture. Nailing or screwing it down won't help. If it's still wet, it will keep decaying. Eventually a hole may develop in the floor.

To verify this, you might try to pull up a little of your carpet in a corner (perhaps even in a closet) and see what's underneath.

Is your gf's dad the kind of guy who likes to be asked for help? If so, ask him to take a look/give you advice.

Then talk to the landlord once you have a better idea what the problem is. The fact that you're being honest with the landlord will probably impress gf's dad. Chances are, the repair will involve pulling back the carpet, cutting out the underlayment, replacing it, and then re-laying the carpet.

Does your landlord generally work on the house himself? If so, he may decide to do this job himself--you could offer to help. Otherwise, he probably knows relatively cheap/reliable handmen. >>


well when we moved in, one of the rooms didnt have carpet (previous people dropped a hot iron on it and melted it ) and when it was put in, it was his dad and another guy doing it, so he seems to come from a 'handy' family...i really doubt that he'd pay someone to do it. he'd probably buy a piece of wood and have his dad do it or something. (or do it himself maybe, i dont know)

 

[Sluggo]

Well.....

Sounds to me like you dont even have a plywood subfloor, generally what will happen if subflooring gets wet

Particle board: wont hump up, just gets mushy and eventually falls through.

Plywood: Generally any plywood used for subflooring will be Exterior grade plywood (CDX, BCX etc.), meaning that it can stand some amount of water on it. Remember that when the house was built, the subfloor was exposed to the elements while under construction. Plywood that is not exterior grade and exposed to water will generally just delaminate, and feel slightly mushy and sqeaky underfoot, not hump up.

1x8 fir (or similar) wood strips used for subflooring will cup (the board will get a U shape to it) if wet, causing some humping, but smaller humps and more of them.

It sounds like the winner is:

Oak tongue and groove flooring, covered by carpet. Oak flooring will hump badly if exposed to water, and needless to say, it is the most expensive to repair by far, since it has to be done by a professional flooring company to make it turn out right. It has large humps since the boards are tied together by the tongue and groove feature, which also makes it really hard to work on.

I hope you have plywood, but it doesnt sound good, especially if it is a slightly older house.

 

[Jerboy]

<< Option 4. Imply that it's been there for awhile by leaving messages on the landlords answering machine saying stuff like "When are you going to come by and fix that floor? It seems to be getting worse. Oh well. Call back asap." Might not work, but it's worth a shot. >>




Might work. Discard the waterbed and swap it with a regular bed beforehand though.


By the way, do you have renter's insurance?


Option 5: Warranty statement usually say they're not responsible for consequential loss unless state you're in prohibits consequential limitation. If you're state is one of them and your bed is still within warranty, you might be able to sue them for consequential damage.

 

[gwlam12]

call for help..from a carpenter or something

 

[yakko]

<< part the carpet before you screw >>

I always do.

 

[RalphTheCow]

I can't decide if this thread is more like the angel and devil on each shoulder, or the 3 Stooges doing wiring. j/k, no offense to anyone, just struck me as funny in toto.