Problem with small home network...

[Smurfwow]

Hey,

I am trying to set network my two computers together for the fun of it (and mabye ics/gaming/filesharing/printersharing )

the problem is the two computers fail to see each other.
in network neighbourhood, my old comp can see itself, but not the new one.
and the new one cant even see itself, and I get a message saying I am unable to browse the network
also... when i try to ping the other comp I get "request timed out"

I have given the computers the ip's 192.168.0.1 and 2(with subnetmask 255.255.255.0). and left dns and win's setting to disabled.
are there any settings I should be careful of when setting up the network config's on each computer?

the specs are:
old comp-
p200
32mb
realtek 8139 nic
win98 fe
new comp
k7-750
256mb
realtek 8139 nic
dual boot win98fe/win2k pro

 

[b0red]

Go to your network properties and check under Identification. Both of your computers should be in the same workgroup.

 

[ktwebb]

Yeah, if you cant ping, your workgroup name is irrelevant. Try removing your TCP/IP stack, rebooting, readding the stack, assigning IP's again and pinging again. If you cannot ping the remote machine, can you ping the local machine? Can you ping the loopback address? (127.0.0.1)

 

[Kanly]

Do you have file and prin sharing enabled on both computers?

 

[Smurfwow]

both comps are in the same workgroup....

file and printer sharing are on in both....

C:\>ping 127.0.0.1

Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


C:\>ping 192.168.0.1

Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

 

[ktwebb]

Which machine are you pinging and pinging from. The local machine, or the remote machine? In either case, TCP/IP seems to be setup properly on that machine. If you are pinging the remote machine unsuccessfully(192.168.0.2) and your subnet mask is the same on both machines, you need to start troubleshooting the materials/devices between the nodes. You didnt say if you were using a hub or crossover cable. If you are using a hub, do you have any other patch cables you can use. Is the link light on, etc... If you are using a crossover in lieu of a hub, do you have another crossover to try. How about another NIC that you know is good to test in either/both machines? Process of elimination.

 

[Smurfwow]

I get the same results no matter which computer i try to ping from.

I am using an accton 8port 100mbps switch

on the switch, there are 3 led's for each of the first 2 ports... 100mb, Link and fdx(full duplex mode)

I have tried different cables.

at any one time, 1 computer is able to browse the network.. and 1 cant. the one that cant gets an error message saying &quot;cannot browse the network&quot; in network neighbourhood. and that computer cant even see itself.


I might install Win2k on the other computer, and try it with both using win2k, it might be easier. are there any good sites out there with a good guide to setting up a 1in2k network?

 

[Spiff]

you can browse the network? with explorer I take it? this says your two systems are talking to each other. that you cannot browse from one machine is irrelevant... it may be inconvenient, but's irrelevant to whether or not the machines are able to communicate with each other.

what is important:

can they ping each?
can you map drives? (provided file and printer sharing are enabled on both)
can they talk on the internet?

if the answer is yes to all of these, then they are working.

 

[han888]

how to ping??

 

[Smurfwow]

sorry spiff, what i ment to say was:
I CANNOT browse the network
by &quot;browse the network&quot; i ment can browse through the local shared content(pretty pointless).
but now both computers can do that, so its irrelivent.

I think the problem is the old computer.

I ran a diag program that i got from the realtek site, and on the new computer, I can so all sorts of stuff. when i test the card out the lights on the switch flash and everything seems fine.
but on the old computer the diag program doesnt do anything, when i tell it to send, it does'nt, no lights go off or anything. and it ussually crashes aswell.

the problem is definatly with my old comp... which is what i suspected in the first place, but wasnt sure.