Problem With New Build

blueicetwice

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I have the new rig all assembled with the exception
of the video card (still waiting for the Gigabite RX560).

Case - https://www.in-win.com/en/gaming-chassis/301
CPU - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113410
Mama/Board - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6BM56U1172
PSU - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095&ignorebbr=1
Memory - DDR3

In the test run, I disconnected the the HHD and turned on the power. The CPU cooler fan
cycled fine, however, the three LED fans would blink every five seconds or so. I have no
display hooked up.

Also, the fan of the PSU, is also not spinning.

Ran another test and the new LED fans worked fine in my other rig. I tried a different
outlet and the build ran for about 3 1/2 minutes before shutting itself off. The LED fans
lights were still blinking, however, the fan on the PSU was finally engaging!!

In addition, I checked the back of the mama/board and only the spacers provided
by In Win were installed. I am thinking that the SeaSonic PSU maybe defective.

I hope someone can be of helf, as I am a stumped, two legged computer builder.
 

Paperdoc

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First thing, your PSU appears to be doing exactly what it should. According to its web page, it includes its own fan control system (as many PSU's do). This system says it normally does NOT run its fan until the load gets to about 50% of its rating, and THEN it start up. From then on it will speed up its fan as necessary when the load increases, or slow own with reduced load or maybe even stop with low load.

Now, the "spacers" you mention under the mobo likely NEED attention. They actually are called Stand-Offs. Typically they are metal with a hole in their top for the screw that you put through a mobo mounting hole and tighten down. The mobo is supposed to be grounded at those mounting holes (note around each mounting hole a pattern of small metal "fingers" to contact the screw) but NOT anywhere else.

Any case comes with a back support plate that has more threaded holes in it for these Stand-Offs than you can use. That's because they can accept a few different mobo types. Usually the maker has pre-installed Stand-offs in the most commonly-used locations. BUT it is YOUR responsibility to check these and adjust if needed. So, remove the mobo from your case carefully. Compare the mounting holes of the mobo with the locations of the pre-installed metal Stand-offs. Ideally there will be a stand-off under every mobo mounting hole. But MOST IMPORTANT, there must NOT be any Stand-Off where there is no hole in the mobo. A Stand-Off in the wrong location can cause a short to Ground (the back plate) from a mobo metal trace. So review all the Stand-offs and adjust to match your mobo's mounting hole pattern, then re-install the mobo in the case.
 
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blueicetwice

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PaperDoc, thank you for your reply! Your remarks about the PSU, is
reassuring.

The Mamaboard came with only four Stand-Offs, which were installed.

There were eight screws installed on the m/b, however, there was one
near the bottom (center) which would not take a screw and had no
Stand-Off.

I will remove the m/b and examine my installation on Sunday.

Still on sure what would be causing the PSU shutdown nor the
LED fan lights to flicker.

Perhaps I errored in the m/b installation.
 

UsandThem

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PaperDoc, thank you for your reply! Your remarks about the PSU, is
reassuring.

The Mamaboard came with only four Stand-Offs, which were installed.

There were eight screws installed on the m/b, however, there was one
near the bottom (center) which would not take a screw and had no
Stand-Off.

I will remove the m/b and examine my installation on Sunday.

Still on sure what would be causing the PSU shutdown nor the
LED fan lights to flicker.

Perhaps I errored in the m/b installation.

By looking at a picture of your motherboard, it has eight mounting holes (which you should ensure the stand-offs all line up with). You move the stand-offs to the corresponding mounting holes. It sounds like you shorted your system. Hopefully you didn't cause any damage to your components.
 
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blueicetwice

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Usandthem, yes, I screwed in 8 screws into the mother board.

Sunday, I will remove it from the case and check my work.
 

zerokewl3

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Reseat the cpu & cooler. Make sure the cpu cooler is plugged in to the right slot.
 

UsandThem

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I found a Stand-Off mounted in the wong place. I
reinstalled the m/b and ran another test. Unfortunately,
the problem remains and I will more than likely have
to take the rig to a repair shop.

I strong suspect there is a parts failure.

Very likely. Unfortunately it can be one component (usually motherboard), but there can be additional components damaged as well. You powered it on multiple times, so who knows?

Taking it to a PC repair shop is your best choice right now.
 

zerokewl3

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The computer may not seem hot, but turning off by itself after a few minutes could be a thermal issue too.

Not only must the system power the CPU cooler, but it also needs to detect its STATUS. It may seem to work fine but if it's not seated correctly it will give errors, then shut down.
 

blueicetwice

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Thank you UsandThem and Zerokewl! This is my third build
I have never had this problem or for dat matter any issue with
the build.

Regarding the CPU, I was very careful in it's installation but I
will pull it and re-seat it again.

If that does not work, it is going into the shop. Personally, I
believe I have a bad PSU.
 

UsandThem

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Thank you UsandThem and Zerokewl! This is my third build
I have never had this problem or for dat matter any issue with
the build.

Regarding the CPU, I was very careful in it's installation but I
will pull it and re-seat it again.

If that does not work, it is going into the shop. Personally, I
believe I have a bad PSU.

Well, to be honest, having a standoff touching the motherboard can damage the PSU. I've only seen a few people have a standoff touching the back of the PCB, and the damaged components all differed. Some simply damaged the motherboard, while some also had damage to their RAM, PSU, and hard drives. I don't remember seeing a CPU damaged, but it's definitely possible.

Unfortunately the only way to know is to test each component. Anyways, good luck!
 

blueicetwice

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I re-seated the CPU. Good news is dat the LED fan lights
stop blinking but the system shut-down again in less than
1 1/2 minutes.

The strange thing is that the CPU fan keep spinning!!?? :eek::eek:

I am heading to Micro Center and hand over this build
to a tech.

I shall report back to Y'all.
 

Ketchup

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Gotcha. Your last two posts made it sound like it had already been fixed.
 

blueicetwice

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Gotcha. Your last two posts made it sound like it had already been fixed.

Ketchup, I believe I have an issue with either the PSU or the
Mama/board or maybe the memory. I was testing the build with
only those three items.

No display was hooked up. I will report back regarding the result of the bench test.
 

blueicetwice

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Pick up my rig from Mirco Center tech department.

They indicated a no post and suggested that either the
CPU or Mama/board or both are defective.

I am going to buy a PSU tester and go from there. If the PSU
good, then I may send the m/b back to big-a-bite.
 

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