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problem with a POS computer **PICS**

nick1985

nick1985

Lifer
ive got an old POS computer lying around that i wanted to get running to run UD-Agent on 24/7.

its got:
233mhz celleron
64 megs of pc-100
6 gig hard drive
cd drive
ati rage video card


i tried to instal windows 2k, but when it gave me a BSOD. i tried an xp disc for the heck of it, i still got a BSOD. i switched cd drives, still BSOD. i tried a different IDE cable, still BSOD. what else can i do so i can get this turd up and running?

the dream PC
 
What does the BSOD error message say? Anyways, that POS computer does meet the minimum requirements for either OS... that could be the reason.
 
If you have any more sticks of memory laying around, try that. Also, you could try running Memtest or the Windows memory tester on it to see if the memory could be the problem. Hope this helps. 🙂

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Also, I have installed Win2K on a Pentium 133 with 64MB of ram so I know it will install. 😉
 
He isn't using it for a normal use computer, just as a machine for a DC project. I'm sure he knows it's going to be slow. Celeron 233 screams slow from the start.
 
so try a new stick of ram? is it safe to take ram out of a computer that is already on? i have a server running with 2 sticks of pc-100 and its a pain in the ass to shut it down then get it running again. can i just take one out while its on?
 
wHAT ?!? . Remove theram and you computer will cease to operate. You operate a server but cant do routine maintance? Turn it off and unplug it to do ANYTHING. Ive heard of some ppl crossin wires and killing HD's.
 
First off, DO NOT TAKE ANY RAM OUT WITH THE SYSTEM POWERED ON!!

Now with that out of the way, pretty much all the problems I have had with 2k and XP on older systems and getting Blue Screens were RAM problems. One old K6/2 system the Cache one the motherboard was bad, but otherwise it's always been memory problems. Try other memory. Do you know what brand/model the motherboard is on that old system? I recently installed XP on a old PII Socket Celeron 266 and had some blue screens and it was a setting in the bios. Wish I can remember what setting I changed. Been a few months back. Try different RAM first and also check your Bios settings. I hope you motherboard is not the same old POS DTK that this system had. I got it working but could not find an updated Bios that properly supported ACPI so the system will not shut down all the way but at least it works and is stable.

Also since it's an old motherboard check the Caps by the CPU to be sure they did not blow. The Tops should be flat with nothing buldging out the top.

 
Originally posted by: DaFinn
What does the BSOD error message say? Anyways, that POS computer does meet the minimum requirements for either OS... that could be the reason.
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Those O/S's will install regardless of spec.
 
Wow, nick, have you had too much egg nog? NEVER unplug or disconnected ANYTHING with the computer on with the exception of USB and Firewire devices.
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Wow, nick, have you had too much egg nog? NEVER unplug or disconnected ANYTHING with the computer on with the exception of USB and Firewire devices.
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hehe, i was feeling lazy and i didnt want to power down 😉

anyway i think its some sort of CD-rom issue. ive tried 3 different cd roms, but only one of them will let me open and close it for some reason, although they all had power 😕 now i cant even get to the BSOD, it says "please insert system diskette and reboot" what the heck?
 
Originally posted by: txxxx
Originally posted by: DaFinn
What does the BSOD error message say? Anyways, that POS computer does meet the minimum requirements for either OS... that could be the reason.
Click to expand...

Those O/S's will install regardless of spec.
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min req. is i believe 133mhz cpu, 64mb ram.

try installing 2000/xp on a 286 with 2mb ram, see what happens
 
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
Originally posted by: txxxx
Originally posted by: DaFinn
What does the BSOD error message say? Anyways, that POS computer does meet the minimum requirements for either OS... that could be the reason.
Click to expand...

Those O/S's will install regardless of spec.
Click to expand...

min req. is i believe 133mhz cpu, 64mb ram.

try installing 2000/xp on a 286 with 2mb ram, see what happens
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Well, the least spec you could actually attempt to install it on is a 386, because it is fully 32 bit. Hmm, what a great idea :evil:.
 
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
Originally posted by: txxxx
Originally posted by: DaFinn
What does the BSOD error message say? Anyways, that POS computer does meet the minimum requirements for either OS... that could be the reason.
Click to expand...

Those O/S's will install regardless of spec.
Click to expand...

min req. is i believe 133mhz cpu, 64mb ram.

try installing 2000/xp on a 286 with 2mb ram, see what happens
Click to expand...

Well, the least spec you could actually attempt to install it on is a 386, because it is fully 32 bit. Hmm, what a great idea :evil:.
 
, it says "please insert system diskette and reboot" what the heck?
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Did you even go into the BIOS and change the boot order?
Do you click a button when you get the booting from cdrom message?
 
Originally posted by: Dug
, it says "please insert system diskette and reboot" what the heck?
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Did you even go into the BIOS and change the boot order?
Do you click a button when you get the booting from cdrom message?
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since it doesnt have a floppy, i disabled it in bios, but i still keep getting this message.
 
Originally posted by: nick1985
ok, i powered down 😉

i installed new ram, and i still got a BSOD.
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did you replace the old ram with the new one or did you just add the new one ? you need to replace to rule out bad ram scenario



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Originally posted by: Dragon365


Well, the least spec you could actually attempt to install it on is a 386, because it is fully 32 bit. Hmm, what a great idea :evil:.
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sweet idea !!!

I wish I had a 386 close by 🙂


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If your BSOD is telling you you have parse errors when installing, it's a sure bet it's the memory... I've had this happen twice, and the first time it happened it took me FOREVER to figure out what it was
 
This may be a bit of a blind jump but is it possible that your motherboard's BIOS doesn't support Win2k? Can you try a Win9x variant?

-Por
 
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