Problem with 8800GTS?

sthaznpride17

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So I recently upgraded my old 6800 Vanilla to a brand new 8800GTS 320MB by eVGA. I expected to see a huge increase performance and image wise across all my games. I was surprised to see that in Counterstrike Source, my FPS still stayed the same at around 45-70 FPS. Guild Wars increased only slightly, LoTR: Online Beta gets only around 20fps in the towns with 8x AA and settings on Ultra High. Dark Messiah gets 20-30FPS average. All games run at 1280 x 1024 and every setting is turned to the max. I was even more shocked to see that the autodetect/reccomended settings for each game was LOWER than the reccomended settings when I had my 6800 in. (Example in CS under advanced options). What is going on? Should I be worried or is it just premature drivers (97.92) that nVidia has to work on? Am I expecting too much?
 

TheRyuu

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Well, I wouldn't use 8xAA, I'd try 8xCSAA or 16xCSAA as both would most likely have better framerates.

Also I never trusted auto-detect, that stuff is broken to me ;)

Now do you overclock the video card at all?
Because I've found that an overclocked 8800GTS can almost, just almost touch a stock GTX. Of course the reduced RAM will also lower performance slightly but still, it should be close.

It may be a little bit of both but I think that you should get slightly higher FPS then your getting now. In Dark Messiah a big thing was the (I think) texture detail. That just ate up RAM and you almost had to have a 512mb video card or higher to run. At least thats what I think.
 

PingSpike

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Man, something has got to be wrong there. You sure some one didn't stick a 9800pro in your 8800gts box and return it?
 

sthaznpride17

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So I should use driver cleaner and reinstall 97.92's? Yeah PingSpike that what I thought too. It certainly runs some games better than my old 6800 but not by that much. I thought 8800's should rip through all these games.
 

sthaznpride17

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Oh and I forgot to mention that in the Lost Coast Video Stress test, the buildings and the oil rig towers look like they are flickering. That can't be normal can it.
 

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8X AA in EQ2 with max detail at 1280x1024? On a 4000+ with 1GB RAM? I think you are expecting a lot from the card. Try 4x AA 16x AF and see what your frame rates are.

More importantly, use 3DMark05/06 to benchmark and see where you stand compared to similar systems.
 

sthaznpride17

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I just ran 3dMark06 and got a score of 6179. Is this in line with my system specs or is it a little to low?
 

BFG10K

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Your processor is holding the card back, especially at a low resolution like 1280x1024.
 

Wags1974

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Id say your processor is definitely the bottleneck. See if you can squeeze a few more hundred megahertz out of the 4000sandiego.
 

sthaznpride17

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Thanks a lot guys. I was hoping that a 4000+ would make a difference, but I guess it is better than my old 3000+ that I had in there earlier. Now that would have been painful.
 

JPB

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Originally posted by: sthaznpride17
Thanks a lot guys. I was hoping that a 4000+ would make a difference, but I guess it is better than my old 3000+ that I had in there earlier. Now that would have been painful.

I guarantee your cpu is holding you back. I have a GTS 640mb and a 3500+. I had to overclock the cpu to 2.6 to break 6500 in 3DMark 06.
 

Captante

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Originally posted by: JPB
Originally posted by: sthaznpride17
Thanks a lot guys. I was hoping that a 4000+ would make a difference, but I guess it is better than my old 3000+ that I had in there earlier. Now that would have been painful.

I guarantee your cpu is holding you back. I have a GTS 640mb and a 3500+. I had to overclock the cpu to 2.6 to break 6500 in 3DMark 06.


No question that your CPU is limiting performance quite a bit, HOWEVER you should still be seeing a substantial performance increase in any newer game with that upgrade at 1280x1024.

Follow the advice about running driver-cleaner in safe-mode, then re-install the drivers clean & report back.
 

TanisHalfElven

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Originally posted by: sthaznpride17
I just ran 3dMark06 and got a score of 6179. Is this in line with my system specs or is it a little to low?

hey i got higher than than (62xx) with less ram. but it inline. my specs are quite similar to your and i too have a 8800gts (evga) (haven't updated the sig yet).

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just because 3d mark score is low due to PCU should not mean anything to real games.
for ex. FEAR maxed at 12x10 put 100% load on my cpu. oblivion at 12x10 put only 50% so i knkow my grpahic card is holding it back .

btw oblivion is so pretty on 8800gts. i love my 8800.
 

JPB

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Originally posted by: Captante
Originally posted by: JPB
Originally posted by: sthaznpride17
Thanks a lot guys. I was hoping that a 4000+ would make a difference, but I guess it is better than my old 3000+ that I had in there earlier. Now that would have been painful.

I guarantee your cpu is holding you back. I have a GTS 640mb and a 3500+. I had to overclock the cpu to 2.6 to break 6500 in 3DMark 06.


No question that your CPU is limiting performance quite a bit, HOWEVER you should still be seeing a substantial performance increase in any newer game with that upgrade at 1280x1024.

Follow the advice about running driver-cleaner in safe-mode, then re-install the drivers clean & report back.

It's cool though because I have a X2 5400...M2N...and 2 gig of memory DDR 800 on the way. So it will be taken care of.:)