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Muse

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All this is theoretical. The best thing you could do for the environment is kill yourself, but it wouldn't even be noticed. Any individual doesn't matter, unless they're fans of burning tires in the backyard or something, but it's at least a useful exercise doing the best you can, and you can say "I tried". I use my CFLs at work mostly. There's a couple lights that are never turned off, and that's where CFLs excel. If you have lights that are on for long periods of time, that's the place to use them. Intermittent lighting is best handled by LEDs.
But I'm a warrior for the environment, if I kill myself the world is a poorer place.

I'm not David Brower, but I do have some cred.


Have a good time saving the world. Otherwise you're just going to depress yourself.


 
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Captante

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My reading lamp has a 75-watt "warm" incandescent lamp but every other light I own has been all-LED for several years.

(I have 26 of the precious "old-school" 75's and maybe 10 100's stashed in the closet lol)
 

Muse

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My reading lamp has a 75-watt "warm" incandescent lamp but every other light I own has been all-LED for several years.

(I have 26 of the precious "old-school" 75's and maybe 10 100's stashed in the closet lol)
I have some incandescents in my bulb drawer, more in a box. I haven't used any for several years. My ex-GF used to complain about the flourescent I have installed over my bed. It's still here but I don't use it nearly as much as I used to, not since I bought those Miady DC lamps a few months ago.

Edit: Thinking, I realized I do have a 15w incandescent custom installed in my DIY nightstand. I never leave it on longer than a few seconds. I haven't had to change it out for must be 10 years at least. I don't know that I have a replacement bulb. If it burns out I'll likely replace it with some kind of low light LED. And I think the lights in my fridge are incandescent, but that's just the way that goes. I did replace one around 2 years ago.
 
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lxskllr

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I was hording 40W incandescents cause at the time, nothing else was as nice. Still isn't really, but LEDs are close enough. I'm pretty happy with them, even with the reliability problems.
 

Red Squirrel

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The LEDs do have the advantage that they turn on faster, the CFLs often need time to warm up. I tend to use CFLs in areas that I want them to just work, such as crawlspace and use LEDs where they will be turned on a lot and just deal with fact that like 2/3 of the ones I buy will be duds within a few years. I have a few incandescent but don't use them, I just keep them around as it's harder to find now. Kind of the same reason I keep a VCR and CRT around. I don't really use them but I have them. I have an odd soft spot for old tech. Like when the old tech is immediately being replaced I kind of don't care about it but when it reaches a point where they actually don't really sell it anymore, I feel more inclined to want to hold on to it.

That said I had an actual incandescent in my night stand lamp, I did not even realize until it burnt out recently. It's been in there since I bought the house. That light does not get used that much though.
 

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My reading lamp has a 75-watt "warm" incandescent lamp but every other light I own has been all-LED for several years.

(I have 26 of the precious "old-school" 75's and maybe 10 100's stashed in the closet lol)
Our reading lamps, actually floor lamps with adjustable arms and light can vary the brightness and the color, and no glare into our eyes. Dim and warm color for watching TV, computer time, etc. At full brightness is great for detail work, or reading.
 

GodisanAtheist

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I have some incandescents in my bulb drawer, more in a box. I haven't used any for several years. My ex-GF used to complain about the flourescent I have installed over my bed. It's still here but I don't use it nearly as much as I used to, not since I bought those Miady DC lamps a few months ago.

- Yeah wow with regard to the fluorescent lighting. My wife wanted to put in 5000K lighting all over the house and that resulted in a huge argument (about a weird but important thing) because I didn't want my living space lit up like an office building.

She felt 2700K was too "yellow" and made everything look super dingy, while I felt 5000K looked too bright/blue/washed out.

We settled on 3500K and because it can be a difficult temp to find for all bulb types, 3200K sometimes. Still a bit sharp, still a bit yellow, everyone is equally "ok" with it :p
 

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Our reading lamps, actually floor lamps with adjustable arms and light can vary the brightness and the color, and no glare into our eyes. Dim and warm color for watching TV, computer time, etc. At full brightness is great for detail work, or reading.
I don't have anything dimmable. LEDs that can dim are more expensive. I don't know anything about the tech, I'd need special switches, I believe. I see no need for that. Those Miady lamps' switch (which is super responsive) go from High-->Medium-->Low-->Off. With the new 2600mah batteries I just bought they are way nice. The color temp isn't warm but I don't mind it.

There are two overhead lights in my kitchen. When one isn't enough I switch on the other as well.
 
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Muse

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I like very yellow lighting. Candlelight is the standard I go for. Most of my lights are "vintage" Edison style LEDs.
I like warm for most places, esp. the bathroom and kitchen. I have a box of 6 800lumen LEDs and I put one in the kitchen yesterday before I went looking for something else and wound up starting this thread. I hated the look, it was 5000k, what they call "Daylight," and I immediately removed it and put it back in the box, deciding to replace the dead Philips lamp with another 800 lumen (or 750 lumen) 2700k LED.
 

BoomerD

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3 watt, 60 watt equivalent, 800 lumens, 11,000 hour life.

And if you don't want to use your CFL bulbs, donate them. Let someone else get the benefit of them over incandescent bulbs.
 

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5000K isn't daylight, 6500K is. Also, the lower the Kelvin temp the warmer the hue.
I think it was some marketing info that said 5000k is Daylight. Being used to 2700k in my kitchen 5000k did look very chilly, especially in my unheated house. I don't know what I'm going to do with those six 5000k bulbs.
 

Muse

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Yes, they call those 5000k bulbs "Daylight."
3 watt, 60 watt equivalent, 800 lumens, 11,000 hour life.

And if you don't want to use your CFL bulbs, donate them. Let someone else get the benefit of them over incandescent bulbs.
No, if you look at the info on those Home Depot bulbs it says 9w.

I figure if I put those CFL bulbs in a box on the street they'll disappear soon enough. There are all kinds living around here... the educated and the uneducated.
 

BoomerD

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Yes, they call those 5000k bulbs "Daylight."
No, if you look at the info on those Home Depot bulbs it says 9w.

I figure if I put those CFL bulbs in a box on the street they'll disappear soon enough. There are all kinds living around here... the educated and the uneducated.

yeah, there's some discrepancy in their info:

The EcoSmart LED 60-Watt equivalent LED light bulb uses only 3-Watt of energy that is a 90% savings over traditional lighting and that means savings on your energy bill every-month. The 11000-hour lifespan and 5-year warranty makes these light bulbs a great choice for applications in your home and office. Start saving today with EcoSmart.
  • Brightness: 800 Lumens
  • Estimated-yearly energy cost: $1.08 (based on 3-hours/day, $0.11/kWh, cost depends on rates and use)
  • Life: 10-years (based on 3-hours/day)
  • Light appearance: daylight (5000K)
  • Energy used: 9-Watt (equivalent to a 60-Watt standard incandescent light bulb)
 

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Why didn't you just ask a forum member for help in remailing? Send them to me and I send them to you ... maybe.
 

Red Squirrel

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I do notice when it comes to LED it seems they try to push 5000k as being daylight. Maybe because they have not quite gotten LEDs to do 6500k yet.

For 6500k I find T8 bulbs are still the best for that. They installed some at my work in one of the equipment rooms years back and the first time they got turned on I thought someone left a bay door open, it really did look like actual day light.

Not ideal for living room, bedroom or even home office as it's a bit too harsh for that, but it's great for basement, garage, shed etc where you want as much light as possible to see things well.
 

Muse

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For 6500k I find T8 bulbs are still the best for that. They installed some at my work in one of the equipment rooms years back and the first time they got turned on I thought someone left a bay door open, it really did look like actual day light.

Not ideal for living room, bedroom or even home office as it's a bit too harsh for that, but it's great for basement, garage, shed etc where you want as much light as possible to see things well.
When I contracted my garage roof repair job I asked to have a skylight installed at a certain location. They installed one but in the wrong location (between the wrong rafters). I offered the roofing company owner a proposal. I asked if I bought another skylight would they install it for free (in my new stipulated location) to compensate me and he had it done. With those two skylights the interior of the garage is invariably adequately illuminated without turning on a light. The AC to the garage isn't connected presently anyway! I don't park my car there, it's filled with tools, materials and such. Much to do here.