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Problem: Asian Male marries a White Female

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I think some hollywood producers have "yellow fever". That's why they depict asian males in a negative light & almost non-existant. However, I've seen many foreign films where us Americans are depicted as fools as well. That's just how the world works.
 
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: jimikim
White people feel threatened by asian males. We make more and are generally more successful than any other race/gender combination.


"Brown people feel threatened by white males. We make more and are generally more successful/powerful than any other race/gender combination."

If a white person said this I'm guessing you would be screaming "racist ignorant white trash!".

Or how would you feel if a white person said "Asian males feel threatened by white males. Generally more of their hot women date us while fewer hot white women date them."

Thinking you are somehow superior because of your race is one of the main causes of racism. Don't make that mistake.


And note that I didn't say Asian males are "smarter" or genetically "superior." It is because of customs, culture, and work ethic that Asian males in America are generally more successful. D4mn, when/where did you go to college?
 
Originally posted by: jimikim
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: jimikim
White people feel threatened by asian males. We make more and are generally more successful than any other race/gender combination.


"Brown people feel threatened by white males. We make more and are generally more successful/powerful than any other race/gender combination."

If a white person said this I'm guessing you would be screaming "racist ignorant white trash!".

Or how would you feel if a white person said "Asian males feel threatened by white males. Generally more of their hot women date us while fewer hot white women date them."

Thinking you are somehow superior because of your race is one of the main causes of racism. Don't make that mistake.


And note that I didn't say Asian males are "smarter" or genetically "superior." It is because of customs, culture, and work ethic that Asian males in America are generally more successful. D4mn, when/where did you go to college?

No need to get defensive😉. I know what you were trying to say and I wasn't calling you a racist. I was merely trying to point out how a white person probably would be called a racist if he made the same kind of statement.

I do find your belief that white males feel threatened by asian males somewhat strange though.

 
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: jimikim
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: jimikim
White people feel threatened by asian males. We make more and are generally more successful than any other race/gender combination.


"Brown people feel threatened by white males. We make more and are generally more successful/powerful than any other race/gender combination."

If a white person said this I'm guessing you would be screaming "racist ignorant white trash!".

Or how would you feel if a white person said "Asian males feel threatened by white males. Generally more of their hot women date us while fewer hot white women date them."

Thinking you are somehow superior because of your race is one of the main causes of racism. Don't make that mistake.


And note that I didn't say Asian males are "smarter" or genetically "superior." It is because of customs, culture, and work ethic that Asian males in America are generally more successful. D4mn, when/where did you go to college?

No need to get defensive😉. I know what you were trying to say and I wasn't calling you a racist. I was merely trying to point out how a white person probably would be called a racist if he made the same kind of statement.

I do find your belief that white males feel threatened by asian males somewhat strange though.

Hmmm....touche once again.

To you it may seem strange because you are not an Asian male (I'm assuming). However, it seems like my friends and I notice that when one of us reach a cap or stop in advancement, it's always seems to me a white male that "keeps us down." I guess sort of how black people feel when they say "the man" keeps us down. Difference is we don't let that stop us, we'll just move elsewhere or start our own thing =P.
 
Originally posted by: jimikim
Hmmm....touche once again.

To you it may seem strange because you are not an Asian male (I'm assuming). However, it seems like my friends and I notice that when one of us reach a cap or stop in advancement, it always seems to me a white male that "keeps us down." I guess sort of how black people feel when they say "the man" keeps us down. Difference is we don't let that stop us, we'll just move elsewhere or start our own thing =P.

Keyword is "seems". You just claimed in your other post that asian males are far more likely to be successful and now you are saying the white man is trying to keep you down 😕. At least when black people make this argument they kinda have the statistics of them being in the lower income brackets to support them.

I think white people generally make positive racial stereotypes about asians. Some white people think asians are automatically straight A students and exceptionally smart, whereas blacks might be thought of negatively. I would imagine these more positive stereotypes would lead to many white employers/bosses wanting asian employess over others.

Could you give more details of the times you or your friends have been held down by a white because your asian?
 
LoL, I guess in the whole view of things, Asian males and black women seem to come up less and usually ignored in the grand scheme of interracials. I mean the whole blacks on blondes, more white women are going for black just cause, even though that black guy has a bigger dick isn't really true and mostly apply to AFRICAN born(non us for you dumasses) males. White women have an obsession for black guys cause parents suppress them and human nature is to go against the grain. White guys like asian women due to their fascination to the asian culture and Asian women are more likely to provide security which white males usually long for, something which white women usually don't provide. Also, while I wouldn't say that asian males are totally ignored, I say there are less interest in general, I have only seen few women who prefer to date only asians as I have others who prefer certain ethnicity, guess we just got the shaft in this contest. Although in terms of racial definition, the term ASIAN usually refers to chinese/Korean/japanese males, I'm filipino, although called Asian, I prefer the PACIFIC ISLANDER term due to it being more accurate.

Sad but true, alot of hot asian women wouldn't mind dating a white guy than a hot white girl to an asian guy, its due to the asian race being more open in general and have some fascination to the white race as the color white is viewed as beautiful compared to darker colors here in the asian countries, also western culture influences from movies and such, asian women have this thing for blue eyes. Oh well, Guess I'll go date a white girl to even things out abit. Also White women prefer tall guys which I can't really say all too common in asian background.
 
lol tallness🙂 u know they have height discrimination in china these days? in basically any decent service industry they have height requirements for workers that deal with the public haha
 
Originally posted by: Pnoy02
LoL, I guess in the whole view of things, Asian males and black women seem to come up less and usually ignored in the grand scheme of interracials. I mean the whole blacks on blondes, more white women are going for black just cause, even though that black guy has a bigger dick isn't really true and mostly apply to AFRICAN born(non us for you dumasses) males. White women have an obsession for black guys cause parents suppress them and human nature is to go against the grain. White guys like asian women due to their fascination to the asian culture and Asian women are more likely to provide security which white males usually long for, something which white women usually don't provide. Also, while I wouldn't say that asian males are totally ignored, I say there are less interest in general, I have only seen few women who prefer to date only asians as I have others who prefer certain ethnicity, guess we just got the shaft in this contest. Although in terms of racial definition, the term ASIAN usually refers to chinese/Korean/japanese males, I'm filipino, although called Asian, I prefer the PACIFIC ISLANDER term due to it being more accurate.

Sad but true, alot of hot asian women wouldn't mind dating a white guy than a hot white girl to an asian guy, its due to the asian race being more open in general and have some fascination to the white race as the color white is viewed as beautiful compared to darker colors here in the asian countries, also western culture influences from movies and such, asian women have this thing for blue eyes. Oh well, Guess I'll go date a white girl to even things out abit. Also White women prefer tall guys which I can't really say all too common in asian background.

the only thing you really had to say was us asian guys are screwed no matter what 😛
 
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: jimikim
Hmmm....touche once again.

To you it may seem strange because you are not an Asian male (I'm assuming). However, it seems like my friends and I notice that when one of us reach a cap or stop in advancement, it always seems to me a white male that "keeps us down." I guess sort of how black people feel when they say "the man" keeps us down. Difference is we don't let that stop us, we'll just move elsewhere or start our own thing =P.

Keyword is "seems". You just claimed in your other post that asian males are far more likely to be successful and now you are saying the white man is trying to keep you down 😕. At least when black people make this argument they kinda have the statistics of them being in the lower income brackets to support them.

I think white people generally make positive racial stereotypes about asians. Some white people think asians are automatically straight A students and exceptionally smart, whereas blacks might be thought of negatively. I would imagine these more positive stereotypes would lead to many white employers/bosses wanting asian employess over others.

Could you give more details of the times you or your friends have been held down by a white because your asian?
By "seems" I mean this. My friend is an investment banker at one of the bulge bracket firms. He is one helluva superstar. However, his caucasian counterparts, some of whom are quite frankly morons (I personally know a couple of them), are the ones being promoted. All the VPs and Managing Directors are naturally caucasian. A couple of Asian ex-bulge bracket bankers are recruiting him to their smaller firms, explaining to him that the reason why they left the bulge-bracket is that they were outrightly discriminated against.

Even at the college level, one of my white roommates told me during the fraternity rush meetings that he wanted one of his buddies to be in the frat. However, the rush committee told him that they had filled their quotas for Asians for that quarter (it was said not quite that nicely).

Even at my CPA firm, a national mid-tier firm, it seems like very few Asian males get promoted. There are tons of Asian females in senior and managing positions, but there seems to be a void in Asian males.

You say white people generally make positive racial stereotypes about Asians. And you are right. And because they expect the Asian to outperform, they feel threatened by them. And that is the point I was trying to make.

And to reply to when it comes to black people, their problem is that they play the victim, and don't do anything about it. When Asians are discriminated against, they fight with will and hard work. I mean look at the Chinese railroad workers. Probably treated just as badly as blacks, yet you generally see Chinese-Americans living well. AND Asians didn't even demand "civil rights" or "equality." Same goes with most Asian immigrants. Story after story is that they come to America with nothing, yet in a few years they succeed.

And to respond to Pnoy: White guys like asian women because they are in generally slimmer, are more "tight," and "submissive," not because of their fascination of their "culture."
 
And to respond to Pnoy: White guys like asian women because they are in generally slimmer, are more "tight," and "submissive," not because of their fascination of their "culture."

well yea, seen as more brought up to be like a home maker type wife... less womens lib.. atleast relatively since the parents were probably much less free than a white parent of the same gen would have been.


And to reply to when it comes to black people, their problem is that they play the victim, and don't do anything about it. When Asians are discriminated against, they fight with will and hard work. I mean look at the Chinese railroad workers. Probably treated just as badly as blacks, yet you generally see Chinese-Americans living well. AND Asians didn't even demand "civil rights" or "equality." Same goes with most Asian immigrants. Story after story is that they come to America with nothing, yet in a few years they succeed.

sorta, not entirely. we just dind't have the numbers. our civil rights came along with the blacks civil rights. course actually we lagged. what people don't know is that far after blacks got citizenship and voting, asians could have neither for a long time after, with law after law passed against their entrance or eligibility for citizenship.

and early in the last century congress actually passed laws that made any american woman marrying an asian to lose her citizenship😛

http://www3.niu.edu/ptaa/history.htm


Even at my CPA firm, a national mid-tier firm, it seems like very few Asian males get promoted. There are tons of Asian females in senior and managing positions, but there seems to be a void in Asian males.

asian women are the highest achieving women. they have the highest average salary of all races.
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
sorta, not entirely. we just dind't have the numbers. our civil rights came along with the blacks civil rights. course actually we lagged. what people don't know is that far after blacks got citizenship and voting, asians could have neither for a long time after, with law after law passed against their entrance or eligibility for citizenship.

and early in the last century congress actually passed laws that made any american woman marrying an asian to lose her citizenship😛

Precisely my point. But Asians in general don't tend to "rebel" or demand things. I mean look at China; 1 billion people living under a communist regime, yet they are content. Look at Asian history; the people don't tend to "rise up" against power.

But in America there is no need for such action. Just work your ass off and buy a benz and them white peoples will be jealous ROFL.
 
well no they aren't content, they are just mostly just so poor or were ..that it wasn't on the radar. freedom means little when you're just trying not to starve or be invaded. you must reach a certain level of overall comfort before theres a cry for more freedom and such. and history doesn't show anything different from anyone else really. europe and the rest were not democratic until recently.
 
Originally posted by: jimikim
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: jimikim
Hmmm....touche once again.

To you it may seem strange because you are not an Asian male (I'm assuming). However, it seems like my friends and I notice that when one of us reach a cap or stop in advancement, it always seems to me a white male that "keeps us down." I guess sort of how black people feel when they say "the man" keeps us down. Difference is we don't let that stop us, we'll just move elsewhere or start our own thing =P.

Keyword is "seems". You just claimed in your other post that asian males are far more likely to be successful and now you are saying the white man is trying to keep you down 😕. At least when black people make this argument they kinda have the statistics of them being in the lower income brackets to support them.

I think white people generally make positive racial stereotypes about asians. Some white people think asians are automatically straight A students and exceptionally smart, whereas blacks might be thought of negatively. I would imagine these more positive stereotypes would lead to many white employers/bosses wanting asian employess over others.

Could you give more details of the times you or your friends have been held down by a white because your asian?
By "seems" I mean this. My friend is an investment banker at one of the bulge bracket firms. He is one helluva superstar. However, his caucasian counterparts, some of whom are quite frankly morons (I personally know a couple of them), are the ones being promoted. All the VPs and Managing Directors are naturally caucasian. A couple of Asian ex-bulge bracket bankers are recruiting him to their smaller firms, explaining to him that the reason why they left the bulge-bracket is that they were outrightly discriminated against.

Even at the college level, one of my white roommates told me during the fraternity rush meetings that he wanted one of his buddies to be in the frat. However, the rush committee told him that they had filled their quotas for Asians for that quarter (it was said not quite that nicely).

Even at my CPA firm, a national mid-tier firm, it seems like very few Asian males get promoted. There are tons of Asian females in senior and managing positions, but there seems to be a void in Asian males.

You say white people generally make positive racial stereotypes about Asians. And you are right. And because they expect the Asian to outperform, they feel threatened by them. And that is the point I was trying to make.

And to reply to when it comes to black people, their problem is that they play the victim, and don't do anything about it. When Asians are discriminated against, they fight with will and hard work. I mean look at the Chinese railroad workers. Probably treated just as badly as blacks, yet you generally see Chinese-Americans living well. AND Asians didn't even demand "civil rights" or "equality." Same goes with most Asian immigrants. Story after story is that they come to America with nothing, yet in a few years they succeed.

And to respond to Pnoy: White guys like asian women because they are in generally slimmer, are more "tight," and "submissive," not because of their fascination of their "culture."

Promotions are based not on performance.

Promotions are based on ability to relate/influence others and who you know. Could it be that said friends just quite simply didn't relate or assimilate?

Sorry, hard truth there.
 

Promotions are based not on performance.

Promotions are based on ability to relate/influence others and who you know. Could it be that said friends just quite simply didn't relate or assimilate?


Doesn't that just prove my point? What you want him to get plastic surgery to look more caucasian?

Promotions are based not on performance.
WTF....
 
Originally posted by: J0hnny
What's funny is that they're both lawyers who are opening up their own firm next year after they're married.

Wow, he must be a really sh1tty lawyer if he can't even stand up for himself on this.
 
Originally posted by: Shlong
Originally posted by: chuckywang
This makes me so angry. Why is it so acceptable that white men can marry asian women, but white women marrying asian men is frowned upon??

I don't remember where I read this but it stood out, not verbatim but something to this effect: "There are eight hundred Asian female anchors, one for each major metropolitan area in the United States. But there is only one Asian male news anchor in the entire United states. There are eight hundred thousand films and movies with Asian female love interests with white guys; there are about three films with Asian guys as the love interest of any ethnicity."


I read about that anchor thing, and i think i came across that film thing too...

what it is is, in both the media industry and the film industry... who is running the show? Who runs the film companies, who decides who sits in the anchor seat? who writes the scripts, from low budget films to big screen ones, who are the majority of guys that come out of college as 'writers'? who approves the screenplays and signs off a coupla million dollars to get a film produced... many many of these jobs are occupied by caucasian dudes... they call it as they like it, long story short.

In Hollywood, in any movie with 'colored' love you'll rarely see it that the woman is the 'white' one and the male love interest is the 'colored' character.

The scripts and casting houses, producers, filmmakers, directors make it this way. I woul'dn't say purposely, but more naturaly since they run the show.

I remember a few years ago watching a movie with George Clooney and J-Lo as the love interest, everything from how they led to the point where they got it on made me say wait a sec.... you expect me to believe this?

You put an Asian to represent the Asian face in MTV Real World... it's likely gonna be a chick. You put a Asian guy... fine... but guess what, he's gonna be gaaaay isn't he? Not that being gay itself has anything wrong with it.

Hate to pick on one show, but the Margaret Cho show, an Asian show, wasn't written with Asian experiences/input as much to the extent as say the current George Lopez show has input from their own people, thereby making a show that the Spanish population can better connect with instead of some kind of hollowed out 'ethnic' show.

African Americans have made great strides in film and entertainment media the last 10-15 years. They have taken spots in directing, writing, production houses, etc. where they can pump what they want, how they want a lot better than they used to, and Asians simply need to get to that stage.

 
Originally posted by: jimikim
By "seems" I mean this. My friend is an investment banker at one of the bulge bracket firms. He is one helluva superstar. However, his caucasian counterparts, some of whom are quite frankly morons (I personally know a couple of them), are the ones being promoted. All the VPs and Managing Directors are naturally caucasian. A couple of Asian ex-bulge bracket bankers are recruiting him to their smaller firms, explaining to him that the reason why they left the bulge-bracket is that they were outrightly discriminated against.

Even at the college level, one of my white roommates told me during the fraternity rush meetings that he wanted one of his buddies to be in the frat. However, the rush committee told him that they had filled their quotas for Asians for that quarter (it was said not quite that nicely).

Even at my CPA firm, a national mid-tier firm, it seems like very few Asian males get promoted. There are tons of Asian females in senior and managing positions, but there seems to be a void in Asian males.

You say white people generally make positive racial stereotypes about Asians. And you are right. And because they expect the Asian to outperform, they feel threatened by them. And that is the point I was trying to make.

And to reply to when it comes to black people, their problem is that they play the victim, and don't do anything about it. When Asians are discriminated against, they fight with will and hard work. I mean look at the Chinese railroad workers. Probably treated just as badly as blacks, yet you generally see Chinese-Americans living well. AND Asians didn't even demand "civil rights" or "equality." Same goes with most Asian immigrants. Story after story is that they come to America with nothing, yet in a few years they succeed.

And to respond to Pnoy: White guys like asian women because they are in generally slimmer, are more "tight," and "submissive," not because of their fascination of their "culture."

OK I see your point. I guess it's just hard for me to believe someone would be discriminated against because they are perceived to be an overachiever, it just seems to make no sense to not promote the most qualified individual to me.

I think a lot of white guys like asian girls because they are "exotic" to them, this means looks and culture. Being typically small and thin is probably a plus to most. I think the "submissive" thing works two ways. White women might think of asian men as more strict and controlling like the korean guy portrayed in 'Lost'. This is not appealing after the whole womens lib thing. But the submissive asian female is appealing to white males, actually all males.

Abc hit the nail on the head with regards to asians on tv. White males are the ones calling all the shots so its not that surprising that a lot of asian chicks will be in films/tv while the males are left out. Do you honestly think that if asian males dominated hollywood production/directing that you would see a lot of white males together with asian females? Instead you would see asian males with blondes. Or if black women wrote and produced everything do you think you would ever see a black man with some hot blonde? I doubt it.
 
If I were him, (the groom) I would call off the wedding until my demands were met. If they weren't, there would be no wedding. If you don't take a stand now, you never will.
 
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