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"PRO" Video Cards & "PRO" Motherboards

crockman

crockman

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I have an ATI 9500 Pro 128MB installed on a Soyo Kt400 Mother. I'm going to Upgrade the Soyo to a "9800" Pro.

I want to buy an IN-expensive Motherboard to put the "9500" on.

Can I install the "9500 Pro" onto an ASUS A7V8X-X ?

I do not think the ASUS has the Pro Power Plug-in.

Will there be any Performance downgrade if I install the 9500 Pro onto the ASUS ?

OR, I have not yet bought the ASUS ($35 used-good shape). So, can anybody suggest an In-expensive Motherboard to put the 9500 Pro on ???

I plan to put an XP 1800+ onto the same Motherboard with the "9500 Pro"

Is that XP1800+ Good Enough to run the 9500 Pro ???

Thank you
 
The 9500 pro will run fine coupled with the Athlon Xp processor. Just be aware it will not be earth shattering gaming, or otherwise, performance.
 
wtf is a pro power plugin?

any video card should run on any motherboard as longas the agp rates are supported.
 
LOL, ya what the heck is a pro plug? I think you are a bit confused 😛

Also, some 8x graphics cards will run in 4x AGP ports. The important thing here is that you need the 3.3v AGP and not the older 1.5v (i think those number are right). But I think your videocard and motherboard combo should work fine.
 
The 9500 pro will run fine coupled with the Athlon Xp processor. Just be aware it will not be earth shattering gaming, or otherwise, performance.
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Thanks: Glad to here that the 1800+ will be good enough ( got it cheap)

This Home-Build is only going to be a Low-Budget PC, so the "not earth shattering" gaming is acceptable.

Thanks

wtf is a pro power plugin?
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My SOYO Kt400 Motherboard has a Special Power Recepticle. The 9500 Pro has an "Additional" Power Cord that plugs into the Soyos' Special Recepticle

Thanks
 
Also, some 8x graphics cards will run in 4x AGP ports. The important thing here is that you need the 3.3v AGP and not the older 1.5v (i think those number are right). But I think your videocard and motherboard combo should work fine.
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Thanks, I think you have the Voltages Reversed, 1.5v is the Newer.

The ASUS doesn't have the Special "Pro-Card" Power Resepticle, where do I plug the 9500 Pros' Power Wire ?

Thanks
 
Can you tell us exactly which SY-KT400 you have? I looked it up and it seems they have several.

I tried to look uo this "Power Reciptical" thing and im tottaly stumped.

LOL, ya what the heck is a pro plug? I think you are a bit confused
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I think I am the one whos confused 😛
 
Can you tell us exactly which SY-KT400 you have? I looked it up and it seems they have several.
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It IS the Kt400 Dragon Ultra Black Edition.

It is NOT the "Lite" Edition, It is NOT the "Platinum" Edition

When you look up "My" Motherboard at the SOYO Website, Notice a 4-Pronge plug-in thats located right next to the AGP Slot. Thats a Power Plug-in for "Pro"-type Video Cards.
 
What you have on your Soyo board is an AGP Pro graphics card slot. It is basically a regular AGP 8X slot that has an extra part that can provide more power through the AGP port for certain high end professional Open GL cards like Quadros, FireGLs, and Wildcats. My A7N8X-Deluxe has one of these as well. There is normally a tab there that keeps you from accidentally plugging your card into the extra connectors if you are using a regular AGP card. According to the manual avaiable at Soyo's website, the 4-pin molex connector is there give the AGP slot the extra boost it needs if you are using the slot as a AGP Pro slot with one of the aforementioned Pro OGL cards. If you are using an AGP Pro card, you plug in one of the molex connectors from your PSU into the connector. If you are using a regular AGP card, you leave the connector unplugged because you don't need the extra power.

Even though your 9500 is a "Pro" version, it is still a regular AGP card, not an AGP Pro card. AFAIK, they never made an AGP Pro version of the 9500 Pro - please correct me if I am wrong. It gets its extra power from a plug on the card itself that connects directly to the PSU. I think it used a floppy power connector, based on the review pictures I dug up a minute ago, with an adapter in the box to allow you to connect it to a 4-pin molex if you were out of FDD power plugs.

An AGP Pro card has a longer AGP connector (with more pins) than a regular AGP card, so you should be able to tell just looking at it if your card needs the longer AGP Pro slot. I doubt it does (you probably just need to plug the card into your PSU), but if you actually have a AGP Pro 9500, I'd recommend getting a Asus A7N8X-Deluxe like mine, which has the AGP Pro compatible slot and a nForce 2 chipset with dual channel memory support.

AGP Pro isn't available for the A64 platform, as PCIe allows for extra power to be sent to the card now, so if you do have a AGP Pro card, I'd look to replace it soon. I saw a hot deal on a AGP Pro Fire GL X1 a while back and I had to pass on it because the card would be useless if I upgraded my processor and mobo.
 
If you are using an AGP Pro card, you plug in one of the molex connectors from your PSU into the connector.
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OH, So Actually the PSU plugs into that AGP Video Molex.

I thought the ATI 9500 Pro, which I have, plugged into the Molex.

There is nothing plugged into the Molex at the moment. I bought the PC used.

Obviously plugging the PSU into that Molex would increase the "9500 Pro"s performance during Gaming, Wouldn't it ???????

Also,

Should I buy a Motherboard that has that "Pro" Molex to get the most Performance out of My 9500 Pro ???

Thanks
 
Originally posted by: crockman
Obviously plugging the PSU into that Molex would increase the "9500 Pro"s performance during Gaming, Wouldn't it ???????

Also,

Should I buy a Motherboard that has that "Pro" Molex to get the most Performance out of My 9500 Pro ???

Thanks
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No there is no benefit. Only if you have a Quadro, Wildcat or FireGL with the special longer AGP connector. For your card, all you need is a standard, run of the mill AGP 8X AGP slot.

The card does need you to plug in the auxillary power connector that is on the card itself, the one in the upper right hand corner. It think it just needs a FDD power connector, but I'd double check before you plug it in and turn it on.
 
Even though your 9500 is a "Pro" version, it is still a regular AGP card, not an AGP Pro card. AFAIK, they never made an AGP Pro version of the 9500 Pro - please correct me if I am wrong.
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No there is no benefit. Only if you have a Quadro, Wildcat or FireGL with the special longer AGP connector. For your card, all you need is a standard, run of the mill AGP 8X AGP slot.
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The PC Case I have has a Side-Window, so I was able to look inside and see the Video Card.

There is a little white sticker that says that the Card is a 9500 "Pro". It does say "Pro".
That sticker also has Numbers on it, I think one being the Serial Number

Is there some way to "Run" the Serial Number at ATIs' Web Site to Double Check that mine is in Fact a "Pro"

And now that I think about it, You may be Confusing My "9500" with another Model of Radeons' called a "9550". I bought one of those "9550"s for my sister, and of which the "9550" has NO "Pro" Model.

Radeon makes a 9500 & 9700 Pro, which are very similar, & a 9800 Pro which is Newer & Faster than the 9500/9700.

So being that my "9500" is a "Pro", Would I be Wasting Alot of Performance if I install the 9500 Pro onto a MB that doesn't have that added Molex for Pro Cards ???????
 
Originally posted by: crockman
Even though your 9500 is a "Pro" version, it is still a regular AGP card, not an AGP Pro card. AFAIK, they never made an AGP Pro version of the 9500 Pro - please correct me if I am wrong.
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No there is no benefit. Only if you have a Quadro, Wildcat or FireGL with the special longer AGP connector. For your card, all you need is a standard, run of the mill AGP 8X AGP slot.
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The PC Case I have has a Side-Window, so I was able to look inside and see the Video Card.

There is a little white sticker that says that the Card is a 9500 "Pro". It does say "Pro".
That sticker also has Numbers on it, I think one being the Serial Number

Is there some way to "Run" the Serial Number at ATIs' Web Site to Double Check that mine is in Fact a "Pro"

And now that I think about it, You may be Confusing My "9500" with another Model of Radeons' called a "9550". I bought one of those "9550"s for my sister, and of which the "9550" has NO "Pro" Model.

Radeon makes a 9500 & 9700 Pro, which are very similar, & a 9800 Pro which is Newer & Faster than the 9500/9700.

So being that my "9500" is a "Pro", Would I be Wasting Alot of Performance if I install the 9500 Pro onto a MB that doesn't have that added Molex for Pro Cards ???????
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I haven't really read through the thread, but you're talking about two different things.

The 9500"pro" doen't use an AGP pro slot.

"pro" is just an ending they added to the name of the card to distinguish where it is in the ranking of other cards.

For example for 9600s there are
9600se
9600
9600pro
9600xt

There might be one or two more that I'm forgetting. The 9600pro doen't require a pro slot, it's just something they tacked on to the name to show it's better than the regular 9600 and worst than the 9600xt.

I don't know of any gaming card that needs a "pro slot", even the $1000 ones.
 
You sir, are very confused. AGP Pro does not equal 9500pro. 9500pro = slightly faster than a 9500, same with 9600pro and 9800pro. It just means they are clocked higher. AGP pro on the other hand, is a special slot for top end rendering cards. Your video card is NOT agp pro, so that feature goes unused. IT DOES NOT RELATE. NO RELATION. The molex on your board does NOTHING FOR YOUR CARD. AND, the pro card will run exactly the same in any other motherboard with an agp slot. It also has a molex connector, but thats because it uses more power than an agp slot can deliver alone. IT IS NOT RELATED TO AGP PRO.

Understand?

😕
 
I don't know of any gaming card that needs a "pro slot", even the $1000 ones.
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Maybe true, But my Soyo Kt400 Dragon Ultra Motherboard Manual, specifically states the the Power Plugin (Molex) next to the AGP Slot is Specifically for "Pro" Version Video Cards. And is not to be used if the AGP Card isn't a "Pro" Version.

I bought this PC Used, and nothing has ever been Plugged into that AGP Molex. But I think that I may not be getting the most out of my 9500 "Pro" because I do not have Extra Power plugged into the Pro-Molex.

My Video Score at Pc Pit Stop was Quite a bit lower than the Average Score of other 9500s'.

I'd really like to find out about this "Pro" Stuff, cause not only am I planning on Installing a "9800" "Pro" onto this Soyo, but also I'm in the Market for an In-expensive Motherboard to put the "9500" on to.

Any "Pro" GURUs have an Explanation about "Pro" Video Cards ??

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Thanks

I wish I had a PRO motherboard...I'm stuck with my Platinum
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Thanks

Understand?
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Actually, NO.

In my SOYO Manual on Page 35, 36 it Shows a 4-pin Male Molex that says "P2 is for AGP PRO use only"

I was under the impression that Radeon 9500/9700 & 9800 "PRO"s used that "P2-Molex"

Maybe I'm wrong, Don't know ????

Can you give me an Example of a Video Card that would use that "AGP PRO" Molex, and is that Card better than a 9800 Pro ???

Thank you to you all
 
Ok...

I've owned a 9500pro and a 9800pro. They worked just fine in a standard AGP slot.

Your motherboard must support AGP pro cards then.

This is different than gaming cards with "pro" on the ends.

A regular AGP card like the 9500pro and 9800pro are will work in an AGP pro slot, but an AGP pro card will not work in a regular AGP slot.

These cards (9500pro and 9800pro) require additional power connections to your powersupply via molex or floppy style power connections. This is unrelated to an "AGP pro" slot.

Here's some info with AGP pro stuff mentioned on the bottom.

Here's a really old article that I didn't read.

Only 3d rendering CAD cards not intended for game use are going to be using AGP pro slots today.

You can put whatever gaming card you want into your comptuer.

A 9800pro over a 9500pro is pretty much a waste of money. They're the same generation and the performance is relatively close.
 
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