Pro Gun people which of the following gun control ideas would you accept.

[DCal430]

1. Universal National Registry of ALL guns. Current owners will have 180 days to register their guns.

2. 7 to 14 day waiting period for the purchase of any gun, even private sale.

3. Universal background checks for all gun purchases and transfers, including between private parties.

4. Ban on all rifles and shot guns which take any detachable magazine or clip. Owners will have 180 days to hand over their guns or make permanent modifications to be in compliance.

5. Limit of 10 round capacity on any gun.

6. Removal of all grandfathering of Automatic weapons, all such weapons must be handed in within 180 days.

7. All bullets will be registered, home reloaded bullets will be illegal. Their will be a limit of 10 to 20 bullet purchases a month. Owners will have 180 days to hand over unused and unregistered bullets.

8. There will be a $2000 year liability fee for each and every gun owned.

9. All guns will be inspected by government officials every year to verify the are in your possession, and have not been illegally modified.

10. Gun owners will require to under go an interview and psychological evaluations with a trained government psychologist as well as interrogator. They will make sure you are mentally fit to own a gun, and are not hiding or plotting anything. This will have to be done before any purchase as well as every other year.

11. Violations of any the above laws will result in confiscation of all guns. As well as 1 to 5 years in jail.

12. The government will offer reward money to anyone who gives information that leads to an arrest for any of these violation. Reward could be $1000 or $5000.

So would you find any of these acceptable. I know some are more severe than others.

 

[tuxberg]

As long as the government abides by their own rules, who cares?

But since they can't and won't do that, none of those are legitimate.

 

[Juror No. 8]

None of them. Fuck the government.

People don't need permission to defend themselves.

 

[Anarchist420]

None of those are acceptable given that govts enforce their tyranny through firearms.

Do I wish guns had never been invented? Sometimes.

Do I trust govts to have a monopoly on their ownership? Fuck no.

 

[Anarchist420]

As long as the government abides by their own rules, who cares?

But since they can't and won't do that, none of those are legitimate.

You beat me to it

 

[techie81]

Absolutely none.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

How about we take the guns from the government first then we'll talk about private citizens. Let me know when that happens.

 

[Smoblikat]

HAHA, that was some heavy trolling.

Didnt the DOHS just buy like 1.2 billion rounds of ammo? That seems like a few more than 10 to 20..............

 

[Matt1970]

How about a proposal that will help end mass shootings? None of those proposals will help in any way. The Binghamton shooter had a NY State Permit which means he went through a background check, mandatory gun safety class and the weapon was registered. Magazine capacity limit didn't help anyone at Columbine.

 

[tuxberg]

How about a proposal that will help end mass shootings?

You mean like disbanding the FDA which pushes through psychoactive meds which are then pushed on young depressed teenagers by state-subsidized pharma?

Or perhaps not giving corporations (like big pharma) special legal privilege and allow the victims of these shootings' families to come forward and sue these companies whose drugs were in the systems of all the shooters at the time?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Absolutely none.

^This!

 

[DCal430]

How about a proposal that will help end mass shootings? None of those proposals will help in any way. The Binghamton shooter had a NY State Permit which means he went through a background check, mandatory gun safety class and the weapon was registered. Magazine capacity limit didn't help anyone at Columbine.

Why wouldn't this have helped, the interrogation and psychological exams would have reveled the threat these people were. Also the guns in Columbine would be banned by my proposal.

10. Gun owners will require to under go an interview and psychological evaluations with a trained government psychologist as well as interrogator. They will make sure you are mentally fit to own a gun, and are not hiding or plotting anything. This will have to be done before any purchase as well as every other year.

If the children or other family members will have access to the gun then they should be interrogated too.

 

[BoberFett]

I would accept bringing back gladiatorial arenas and throwing DCal430 in with a bunch of hungry tigers.

It wouldn't solve violence, but it certainly would be satisfying.

 

[DCal430]

We can also use teachers to enforce these rules, they can ask their students to be honest and if mommy and daddy are in violation of these rules.

 

[unokitty]

 

[DucatiMonster696]

I would accept bringing back gladiatorial arenas and throwing DCal430 in with a bunch of hungry tigers.

It wouldn't solve violence, but it certainly would be satisfying.

If we can sell it to politicians as a means to gain votes (as the Romans did in the past) I think we have a plan here that might really work!

 

[Blain]

1. Universal National Registry of ALL guns. Current owners will have 180 days to register their guns.

2. 7 to 14 day waiting period for the purchase of any gun, even private sale.

3. Universal background checks for all gun purchases and transfers, including between private parties.

4. Ban on all rifles and shot guns which take any detachable magazine or clip. Owners will have 180 days to hand over their guns or make permanent modifications to be in compliance.

5. Limit of 10 round capacity on any gun.

6. Removal of all grandfathering of Automatic weapons, all such weapons must be handed in within 180 days.

7. All bullets will be registered, home reloaded bullets will be illegal. Their will be a limit of 10 to 20 bullet purchases a month. Owners will have 180 days to hand over unused and unregistered bullets.

8. There will be a $2000 year liability fee for each and every gun owned.

9. All guns will be inspected by government officials every year to verify the are in your possession, and have not been illegally modified.

10. Gun owners will require to under go an interview and psychological evaluations with a trained government psychologist as well as interrogator. They will make sure you are mentally fit to own a gun, and are not hiding or plotting anything. This will have to be done before any purchase as well as every other year.

11. Violations of any the above laws will result in confiscation of all guns. As well as 1 to 5 years in jail.

12. The government will offer reward money to anyone who gives information that leads to an arrest for any of these violation. Reward could be $1000 or $5000.

So would you find any of these acceptable. I know some are more severe than others.

You forgot to add...

13. Having your trigger finger shot off by the gun of your choice.

I know it's a little more extreme than your first 12, but not by much.

 

[Matt1970]

We can also use teachers to enforce these rules, they can ask their students to be honest and if mommy and daddy are in violation of these rules.

Do you listen to yourself?

 

[nehalem256]

I think every suggestion is either stupid, a blatant violation of gun rights, or both.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

We can also use teachers to enforce these rules, they can ask their students to be honest and if mommy and daddy are in violation of these rules.

We tried something like that once.

 

[davmat787]

"Trained government psychologist"? lol! Just what we need, government training psychologists to determine if we are sane enough to use a right granted to us.

My heads hurts trying to put myself in the mind of someone who thinks like that. Whatever happened to a government of the people, by the people, for the people? I am guessing the OP is not a native born American, and has little to no concept of how the founding fathers envisioned liberty and the role of government.

OP would have been much better off in 1930's Germany. He would have made a great neighborhood snitch, running to the browncoats at any opportunity to curry favor.

 

[Matt1970]

"Trained government psychologist"? lol! Just what we need, government training psychologists to determine if we are sane enough to use a right granted to us.

My heads hurts trying to put myself in the mind of someone who thinks like that. Whatever happened to a government of the people, by the people, for the people? I am guessing the OP is not a native born American, and has little to no concept of how the founding fathers envisioned liberty and the role of government.

It would be a nightmare doing just the new evaluations every year, nevermind the evalutions on the millions of existing gun owners.

 

[DCal430]

"Trained government psychologist"? lol! Just what we need, government training psychologists to determine if we are sane enough to use a right granted to us.

My heads hurts trying to put myself in the mind of someone who thinks like that. Whatever happened to a government of the people, by the people, for the people? I am guessing the OP is not a native born American, and has little to no concept of how the founding fathers envisioned liberty and the role of government.

OP would have been much better off in 1930's Germany. He would have made a great neighborhood snitch, running to the browncoats at any opportunity to curry favor.

We need a way to determine if someone is mentally stable or if they a potential enemy of the people.

 

[Matt1970]

We need a way to determine if someone is mentally stable or if they a potential enemy of the people.

Another problem is how many of the mass shooters would have actually qualified as mentally ill? The ones that are classified as mentally ill will do just like everyone else and steal them or have someone else buy them for um.

 

[davmat787]

We need a way to determine if someone is mentally stable or if they a potential enemy of the people.

I think everyone can agree that we don't want guns getting into the hands of mentally ill people like Lanza or the Aurora guy. Getting to that point is the debate.

I just don't think any good would come out of having government trained psychologists doing the determining. Potential conflict of interest and provides another avenue for privacy violations and abuse.

Do you really want the government poking around in your head?