pro abortion fanatics inspired by satan.

[Scotteq]

As a gay man and a toaster cannot reproduce together no matter how much hot hot toaster loving sex they have I don't think that is a concern.

You kind of have a point - one would think the anti-abortionists would embrace the LGBT community with open arms. After all, we can be sure nobody has fewer abortions than homosexuals...

 

[nehalem256]

What if the child raised by the crackwhore wears a hoodie?

Then the abortion doctor should have stayed in the car?

 

[surfsatwerk]

You kind of have a point - one would think the anti-abortionists would embrace the LGBT community with open arms. After all, we can be sure nobody has fewer abortions than homosexuals...

Until that pesky God start immaculately conceiving children on unsuspecting lesbian mothers.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Then the abortion doctor should have stayed in the car?

Clever girl...

 

[Juddog]

You kind of have a point - one would think the anti-abortionists would embrace the LGBT community with open arms. After all, we can be sure nobody has fewer abortions than homosexuals...

Plus homosexual couples adopt more, taking care of those unwanted babies.

 

[nehalem256]

Plus homosexual couples adopt more, taking care of those unwanted babies.

Except there is no shortage of people wanting to adopt babies... which is why people go to places like Russia to acquire them.

There is however a shortage of people who want to take 10 year old kids who have been screwed up by horrible birth parents.

 

[BurnItDwn]

If the women ejects the fetus and it is not able to survive on it's own, then she has every right to abort it.

If the pregnancy is late enough that the fetus will survive on it's own, then she should not be allowed to abort it.

I support abortions up until the 35th or 36th term.

 

[Juddog]

Except there is no shortage of people wanting to adopt babies... which is why people go to places like Russia to acquire them.

There is however a shortage of people who want to take 10 year old kids who have been screwed up by horrible birth parents.

Well then who is going to take care of all these 10 year old kids with horrible birth parents?

 

[nehalem256]

Well then who is going to take care of all these 10 year old kids with horrible birth parents?

Do you think gay couples for some reason have a greater desire to adopt screwed-up 10 year olds than straight couples?

 

[Juddog]

Do you think gay couples for some reason have a greater desire to adopt screwed-up 10 year olds than straight couples?

They wouldn't have to if the kid was aborted in the first place. Why do we need so many more humans on this planet?

 

[buckshot24]

They wouldn't have to if the kid was aborted in the first place. Why do we need so many more humans on this planet?

I agree, let's kill all the poor. They shouldn't have to suffer like they are.

 

[Atreus21]

No - a seed is in fact an apt analogy.

A seed is fertilized - you do know that right? There is a pollination process before the seed is formed. The pollen is the equivalent of sperm.

Well, however we want to frame it, the point is a seed is nothing more than a seed until it's planted and watered. A sperm can't become a human being on its own, nor can an egg. A fertilized egg, once implanted and barring any external hindrance to its development, will grow into a fetus, then a baby, then an adult.

 

[Atreus21]

I love the lack of short term thinking by some people in here.

"Let the child live - it's a child, even at 6 weeks!" Then the kid is born, because of dumb laws restricting abortion and cutbacks on funding for the clinic, lives a life of criminality because it grew up without a dad to a broke mom on welfare and deals drugs, joins a gang, then shoots some white people in a car jacking, then all of a sudden the same person protecting said child says "they ought to just put them in front of a firing squad".

Unwanted children oftentimes live pretty depressing / messed up lives. It's sad but true, and there is typically a good reason that the mother wants the abortion in the first place. People need to think deeper about the social ramifications of protecting every unborn fetus and then not giving a care about how the child grows up in a broken home.

You're saying that we should kill people whom we prejudge as better dead than alive. That is barbaric.

Why should this argument not apply to 3 year olds? Or older? If I see a poorly-dressed black teenager walking suspiciously around my neighborhood, should I kill him since he fits the profile of people who will live an impoverished and criminal life?

It's one thing to judge people on their actions. It's another thing to prejudge them based on the conditions of their birth.

 

[justoh]

Why should this argument not apply to 3 year olds? Or older? If I see a poorly-dressed black teenager walking suspiciously around my neighborhood, should I kill him since he fits the profile of people who will live an impoverished and criminal life?
.

You guys already do that.

 

[Juddog]

Well, however we want to frame it, the point is a seed is nothing more than a seed until it's planted and watered. A sperm can't become a human being on its own, nor can an egg. A fertilized egg, once implanted and barring any external hindrance to its development, will grow into a fetus, then a baby, then an adult.

Actually the better analogy is that once the plant seed is in the ground, it germinates until it's ready to crack the shell that surrounds it.

That's pretty much happens with a human fetus; it resides within the fluid sack inside of the womb until the baby is ready to "hatch" or be born.

sperm = pollen
seed = fetus
plant coming out of ground = baby being born

 

[Atreus21]

You guys already do that.

No we don't. You guys just fantasize that we do. Furthermore, the question was if it's right or wrong.

 

[justoh]

No we don't. You guys just fantasize that we do. Furthermore, the question was if it's right or wrong.

Yes. The answer is yes.

 

[CptDanko]

As an avid leftist sympathizer, abortion is one thing I agree with the right on.
What I find the most delusional statement ever is that pro choice advocates like to play the "womans rights" card when it comes to abortion.
That its a womans right to kill their unborn offspring, ohh rly?

 

[trenchfoot]

As an avid leftist sympathizer, abortion is one thing I agree with the right on.
What I find the most delusional statement ever is that pro choice advocates like to play the "womans rights" card when it comes to abortion.
That its a womans right to kill their unborn offspring, ohh rly?

So is your "right" to impose an arbitrary edict that make it the law of the land to criminalize all women from excersizing their "right" to choose whether they want to give birth or not more "righteous" and therefore of higher authority?

If you feel that strongly about forcing all women to carry to full term any unwanted pregnancy they may have, would you also feel as strongly about caring for any and all of those children that get born due to the law that you want to impose on them? Would you be willing to pay all costs that are incurred to feed, house, clothe and educate these unfortunate children into prosperous adulthood and beyond? Where does your obligation to enforce your will on others begin and end in this particular instance?

Point being, if you want to impose your will on others, you also need to bear the responsibility of the consequences of your actions. Of which, I haven't seen or heard from pro life advocates.....ever.

To be clear, I'm not referring to you exclusively in my remarks. I simply utilized my referring to you for the sake of convenience. Nothing personal, as it were.

edit - Believe it or not, I'm also pro-life. However, my view is that it's a personal choice for me and not one that I feel the need to force all others to feel and act in the same way.

 

[CptDanko]

So is your "right" to impose an arbitrary edict that make it the law of the land to criminalize all women from excersizing their "right" to choose whether they want to give birth or not more "righteous" and therefore of higher authority?

If you feel that strongly about forcing all women to carry to full term any unwanted pregnancy they may have, would you also feel as strongly about caring for any and all of those children that get born due to the law that you want to impose on them? Would you be willing to pay all costs that are incurred to feed, house, clothe and educate these unfortunate children into prosperous adulthood and beyond? Where does your obligation to enforce your will on others begin and end in this particular instance?

Point being, if you want to impose your will on others, you also need to bear the responsibility of the consequences of your actions. Of which, I haven't seen or heard from pro life advocates.....ever.

To be clear, I'm not referring to you exclusively in my remarks. I simply utilized my referring to you for the sake of convenience. Nothing personal, as it were.

ITs not about forcing anything. And to answer your questions yes I would be willing to pay for the children to grow up.

Seems to me that most pro choicers have never lost a child.
Untill then, then talk.