Privatized welfare

[Vic]

Originally posted by: slash196
Giving government contracts to companies is just ASKING for corruption. The more the government keeps things in the family, so to speak, the less corruption there will be.

You mean the more government can keep the corruption in house? Sorry, my state government is controlled by its employees union, where self-serving government corruption is visible for all to see. Corruption comes with power. ANY power.

 

[Brackis]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: slash196
Giving government contracts to companies is just ASKING for corruption. The more the government keeps things in the family, so to speak, the less corruption there will be.

You mean the more government can keep the corruption in house? Sorry, my state government is controlled by its employees union, where self-serving government corruption is visible for all to see. Corruption comes with power. ANY power.

Corruption comes with human nature, and if men were angels government would not exist.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Brackis

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: slash196
Giving government contracts to companies is just ASKING for corruption. The more the government keeps things in the family, so to speak, the less corruption there will be.

You mean the more government can keep the corruption in house? Sorry, my state government is controlled by its employees union, where self-serving government corruption is visible for all to see. Corruption comes with power. ANY power.

Corruption comes with human nature, and if men were angels government would not exist.

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[g paw]

Ohio has privatized a portion of their workers compensation, which is a state monopoly, i.e., if you?re not a self-insured employer you must buy you workers compensation insurance from the Ohio Bureau of Workers Compensation (BWC). About 8 ? 10 years ago they privatized the medical management giving it to private Managed Care Organizations (MCO). How much an MCO is paid is in large part dependent on meeting certain goals, e.g., approving or denying a doctor?s request for treatment within 3 days and getting people back to work. It?s definitely increased the efficiency because BWC can enforce standards for the MCOs that they could never force their employees to meet between their union and civil service. On the other hand, BWC never laid anyone off even though they outsourced 25% to 30% of what they do so the maximum savings has never been realized. The other problem is that they are starting to seriously cutting back the dollars they?re paying to the MCOs because some of the people at the top don?t like the system and are trying to starve it out of existence, which is starting to impact the quality of they?re work. If nothing else, this system pretty well demonstrates that with good oversight you can increase efficiency because you can force contractors to meet standards you can never get governments workers to meet. Privatizing the providing social services as opposed to administering them depends on the services, e.g., I wouldn?t want the police or courts privatized on the other hand Return to Work programs can be privatized. In fact, there is a significant privatized sector of what?s call Vocational Rehabilitation, which is helping people with disabilities back to work including social and psychological disabilities. But it?s absolutely necessary that there be excellent government oversight that is efficient, encourages what is necessary to be successful, and is apolitical and the ladder is often the problem.

 

[Brackis]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Brackis

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: slash196
Giving government contracts to companies is just ASKING for corruption. The more the government keeps things in the family, so to speak, the less corruption there will be.

You mean the more government can keep the corruption in house? Sorry, my state government is controlled by its employees union, where self-serving government corruption is visible for all to see. Corruption comes with power. ANY power.

Corruption comes with human nature, and if men were angels government would not exist.

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I'm not trying to refute any welfare policy, but elaborate on your idea of corruption from a political science standpoint as referenced in the Federalist papers of some of our government's framers.

 

[Brackis]

Originally posted by: g paw
Ohio has privatized a portion of their workers compensation, which is a state monopoly, i.e., if you?re not a self-insured employer you must buy you workers compensation insurance from the Ohio Bureau of Workers Compensation (BWC). About 8 ? 10 years ago they privatized the medical management giving it to private Managed Care Organizations (MCO). How much an MCO is paid is in large part dependent on meeting certain goals, e.g., approving or denying a doctor?s request for treatment within 3 days and getting people back to work. It?s definitely increased the efficiency because BWC can enforce standards for the MCOs that they could never force their employees to meet between their union and civil service. On the other hand, BWC never laid anyone off even though they outsourced 25% to 30% of what they do so the maximum savings has never been realized. The other problem is that they are starting to seriously cutting back the dollars they?re paying to the MCOs because some of the people at the top don?t like the system and are trying to starve it out of existence, which is starting to impact the quality of they?re work. If nothing else, this system pretty well demonstrates that with good oversight you can increase efficiency because you can force contractors to meet standards you can never get governments workers to meet. Privatizing the providing social services as opposed to administering them depends on the services, e.g., I wouldn?t want the police or courts privatized on the other hand Return to Work programs can be privatized. In fact, there is a significant privatized sector of what?s call Vocational Rehabilitation, which is helping people with disabilities back to work including social and psychological disabilities. But it?s absolutely necessary that there be excellent government oversight that is efficient, encourages what is necessary to be successful, and is apolitical and the ladder is often the problem.

Yeah, the ladder usually causes a lot of Worker's Comp problems