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Private tapes shed light on candidate Bush

Beowulf

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Private tapes shed light on candidate Bush
Conversations on political foes, drugs recorded by old friend

The Associated Press
Updated: 9:36 p.m. ET Feb. 19, 2005


NEW YORK - Private conversations with George Bush secretly taped by an old friend before he was elected president foreshadow some of his political strategies and appear to reveal that he acknowledged using marijuana, The New York Times reported Saturday.

The conversations were recorded by Doug Wead, a former aide to George W. Bush?s father, beginning in 1998, when Bush was weighing a presidential bid, until just before the Republican National Convention in 2000, the Times said in a story posted on its Web site.

The tapes show Bush crafting a strategy for navigating the tricky political waters between Christian conservative and secular voters, repeatedly worrying that evangelicals would be angered by a refusal to bash gays and that secular Americans would be turned off by meetings with evangelical leaders.

On one tape, Bush explains that he told one prominent evangelical that he would not ?kick gays, because I?m a sinner. How can I differentiate sin??

Candid talk about foes, drugs
In early tapes, Bush dismisses the strength of John McCain for the nomination and expresses concern about rival Steve Forbes. He also praises John Ashcroft as a promising candidate for Supreme Court justice, attorney general or vice president.

Bush also criticizes then-Vice President Al Gore for admitting marijuana use and explains why he would not do the same.

?I wouldn?t answer the marijuana questions,? he said, according to the Times. ?You know why? Because I don?t want some little kid doing what I tried.?


According to the article, Wead played 12 of the tapes to a Times reporter. He said he recorded them because he viewed Bush as a historic figure. He is the author of a new book on presidential childhoods.

The White House did not deny the authenticity of the tapes.

?The governor was having casual conversations with someone he believed was his friend,? White House spokesman Trent Duffy said, referring to Bush.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6999665/

Not a bad article gives more insight on Bush obviously someone is going to try to drag him over the mud for what he said but the White House didn't deny it.

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I know this thread was started before the other one on the same topic, but I locked the other one already has many more posts.

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Originally posted by: Beowulf
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Slow news day?

Don't see anything scandolous here.

It's not mean't for scadolous I thought it was a good article and I voted for the guy.

Oh, Okay.

At first glance I thought it was just another of the continuous Bush bashing threads.

 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Beowulf
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Slow news day?

Don't see anything scandolous here.

It's not mean't for scadolous I thought it was a good article and I voted for the guy.

Oh, Okay.

At first glance I thought it was just another of the continuous Bush bashing threads.

That's why I said some ppl will drag him through the mud for his comments but I didn't see anything bad with it.Hell even I smoked before don't do it anymore and I liked his reply that's why I bolded it.
 
Originally posted by: Condor
The libs must be asleep. Bless their little hearts, the attacks will start again at 10:00 hrs.

Nope. The libs don't give a sh!t about peoples marijuana use. Continue with your cj.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Slow news day?

Don't see anything scandolous here.

Expecting the worst eh?
I guess "daddy karl" has his mouth too full for talking points today so the bush apologists can try to spin your way out of the administrations latest screwup. 😉
Or maybe all the right-wingers in P&N are just celebrating their "Man" "Date"
 
the conservatives "right" folks in the forum are playing the 3 monkeys again, you know; no hear,no said,no see.......
 
Originally posted by: colonel
the conservatives "right" folks in the forum are playing the 3 monkeys again, you know; no hear,no said,no see.......

Great, I bought some bananas at the store for my kids yesterday!

Fundie want a banana? :laugh:
 
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If you just do a simple search for Al Gore and his pot you really would realize that it is a bigger deal than you think. Even Left and the Right side was getting in on it.

But honestly if Bush was a true man he would have stepped up and said ( when gore are getting hammered on about drugs ) and admitted that he use to smoke pot also. That right there shows that this man does not have that much integity.
 
Am I the only one that sees a joke in here somewhere? A conversation concerning pot, taped by a guy named Wead...

Nate
 
Originally posted by: NTB
Am I the only one that sees a joke in here somewhere? A conversation concerning pot, taped by a guy named Wead...

Nate

Yea I saw that heh I did like the president's reply to the issue why I posted it.While most of the ppl I know have grown comformist and can live without a bunch of crap(to them atleast) they say yet waste 60 dollars+ a day just to smoke pot.I just grew up looked at my life I saw how pot had me unproductive,lazy and killed my motivation for anything so I dropped it(best thing I could have done).It's not evil though just a waste of money in my opinion.
 
Originally posted by: Beowulf
Originally posted by: NTB
Am I the only one that sees a joke in here somewhere? A conversation concerning pot, taped by a guy named Wead...

Nate

Yea I saw that heh I did like the president's reply to the issue why I posted it.While most of the ppl I know have grown comformist and can live without a bunch of crap(to them atleast) they say yet waste 60 dollars+ a day just to smoke pot.I just grew up looked at my life I saw how pot had me unproductive,lazy and killed my motivation for anything so I dropped it(best thing I could have done).It's not evil though just a waste of money in my opinion.

I've known people like that too...then again, I've also known successful, hardworking people (my old girlfriend, for one...college degree and a full time job, right after graduation) that smoke it as well. Not often, but she does. Like you said, it isn't this big, evil thing that everyone makes it out be.

Nate
 
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Slow news day?

Don't see anything scandolous here.

Expecting the worst eh?
I guess "daddy karl" has his mouth too full for talking points today so the bush apologists can try to spin your way out of the administrations latest screwup. 😉
Or maybe all the right-wingers in P&N are just celebrating their "Man" "Date"

Imagine that, a homophobe from San francisco. 🙂

 
Is Bush really admitting to marijuana? Isn't it quite possible . . . if not likely . . . that he's referring to far more?

There's very little doubt that he's a poor judge of character and competency . . . Ashcroft on the Supreme Court? Geez . . . could you imagine that guy defending our civil liberties?!?
 
It's funny how you hypocrites STILL attack Clinton's "I didn't inhale" but excuse this cynical admission by Bush that he used MJ. And he STILL refuses to say he didn't use COKE.

Because he did. 😉

An alcoholic pothead cokehead.

America should be so proud. :roll:

 
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