Almost every business has their own stop signs posted on their private property. Is it illegal to ignore them? Are these traffic signs enforceable by regular police? Or are these "private property" traffic signs really just a "traffic guide" with no legal punch?
Private business & stop signs
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I've heard you can't get trraffic tickets for ignoring stop signs in malls and plazas and such since they are not public roads. The same goes for speed limits on private property.
Here the cops won't enforce traffic on private property. That is unless we put up a sign and pay $20/hour for enforcement.
Yes it is illegal.
Yes it is illegal.
No one at my company obeys parking spaces or stop signs around the office....
In fact we try to make an effort to create creative parking arrangements...
In fact we try to make an effort to create creative parking arrangements...
Guess it would depend on state lawas too.
info from FL
http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/0/2be...2597761f385256eb7005f8fdf?OpenDocument
hus, municipalities have enforcement authority with respect to traffic violations and accidents occurring on "private property" where the public has the right to travel by motor vehicle, such as in shopping centers and parking lots. In 1987, however, section 316.006, Florida Statutes, was amended to supply additional authority for municipal law enforcement officers to enforce traffic laws on certain private property.[4] As amended, section 316.006 (2)(b), Florida Statutes, provides:
"A municipality may exercise jurisdiction over any private road or roads, or over any limited access road or roads owned or controlled by a special district, located within its boundaries if the municipality and party or parties owning or controlling such road or roads provide, by written agreement approved by the governing body of the municipality, for municipal traffic control jurisdiction over the road or roads encompassed by such agreement. . . . "
info from FL
http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/0/2be...2597761f385256eb7005f8fdf?OpenDocument
hus, municipalities have enforcement authority with respect to traffic violations and accidents occurring on "private property" where the public has the right to travel by motor vehicle, such as in shopping centers and parking lots. In 1987, however, section 316.006, Florida Statutes, was amended to supply additional authority for municipal law enforcement officers to enforce traffic laws on certain private property.[4] As amended, section 316.006 (2)(b), Florida Statutes, provides:
"A municipality may exercise jurisdiction over any private road or roads, or over any limited access road or roads owned or controlled by a special district, located within its boundaries if the municipality and party or parties owning or controlling such road or roads provide, by written agreement approved by the governing body of the municipality, for municipal traffic control jurisdiction over the road or roads encompassed by such agreement. . . . "
Do you know that I connected ALL those dots, wondering when the decayed corpse/photoshopped demon/Admiral Ackbar would jump out and scream?:|
i know someone that got a ticket for not completely stopping at one of these
it was thrown out in court cause the sign did not have a sticker on it and was not a legal sign
it was thrown out in court cause the sign did not have a sticker on it and was not a legal sign
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I live in Florida in a subdivision that is entirely privately-owned. All of our streets are owned by us, not the county. The sheriff can, and does, give tickets for exceeding the posted speed limits and running stop signs within the subdivision.
So, at least in my case, it is illegal to ignore the signs that are on private property and they are enforceable by regular law enforcement officers.
So, at least in my case, it is illegal to ignore the signs that are on private property and they are enforceable by regular law enforcement officers.
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I think in most cases, police cannot ticket on private parking lots (like a grocery store parking lot). I know friends who have had accidents on them (not their fault) and the police could do nothing about it since it was on private property. However, if the private property is a real street where safety can be a major problem (like allisolm's case) then I'm pretty sure most states have exceptions.
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Somebody in your subdivision should fight it in court; I think they might win.
There is a subdivision around here like yours--all private with stop signs. I read an article (hell maybe I'm dreaming and it wasn't local at all, but anyway) about how they have their own rent-a-cops giving tickets because the police can't. One cop gave a ticket for like 33 in a 30, but the fact of the matter is that people _do not_ have to stop for these cops, so it was basically voluntary if you wanted to or not.
I think this is akin to having a long driveway to your house and racing along it at reckless speeds. That is perfectly legal.
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