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Private 4 year schools that aren't Top 25 ranked...

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AccruedExpenditure

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Take St. Mary's CA for instance-
Undergraduate Student Expense Budget 2009-2010 (for a 9-month school year)
Tuition & Fees $33,910
Room & Board $11,940
Books & Supplies $1,512
Personal/Misc. $2,250
Transportation $792
TOTAL $50,404

What's the point of spending 200k over 4 years on a private school when you're going to compete with someone who spent 35k to get a BA from a state school? As an employer myself, I barely look at GPA let alone the school an applicant attended if it isn't a top 10 school...

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Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
Take St. Mary's CA for instance-
Undergraduate Student Expense Budget 2009-2010 (for a 9-month school year)
Tuition & Fees $33,910
Room & Board $11,940
Books & Supplies $1,512
Personal/Misc. $2,250
Transportation $792
TOTAL $50,404

What's the point of spending 200k over 4 years on a private school when you're going to compete with someone who spent 35k to get a BA from a state school? As an employer myself, I barely look at GPA let alone the school an applicant attended if it isn't a top 10 school...

Discuss
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No.
 
Originally posted by: Dirigible
Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
Take St. Mary's CA for instance-
Undergraduate Student Expense Budget 2009-2010 (for a 9-month school year)
Tuition & Fees $33,910
Room & Board $11,940
Books & Supplies $1,512
Personal/Misc. $2,250
Transportation $792
TOTAL $50,404

What's the point of spending 200k over 4 years on a private school when you're going to compete with someone who spent 35k to get a BA from a state school? As an employer myself, I barely look at GPA let alone the school an applicant attended if it isn't a top 10 school...

Discuss
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No.
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Free ipod then?
 
I don't get it either. Friend's wife went to a school like this and got a History/Poli Sci degree - seemed like a decent enough school, but the expense was astronomical.
 
Depends, maybe that school has a particular specialty. Maybe the individual didn't get into a less expensive school. Or maybe they visited, liked the atmosphere, students, etc, and decided to take out the loans or had folks that would pay for it.

School choices aren't always all about rank.
 
I think some of those private schools are ranked very highly in very specific/obscure programs, or may be the only schools to offer such a degree. If a student wants to pursue such a program, choosing one of these private schools might make sense. The big danger I see there is if the student decides that program isn't for him/her.

Because they aren't well known and/or are lacking in other departments, these schools will never show up on the USNews list or any of the other popular college ranking lists.
 
State university is only $35k for 4 years? More like $80k.

Still a big difference though and I see your point. Also that can easily be $250k since it's not uncommon to go for 5 years for a BA/BS.
 
The average person I met at my private college was 100x more interesting than any person I met who attended a public college.

Just sayin'.
 
It really depends on what is being taught. GPA does not tell the whole story about someone with a degree. I learned this from another employee who had the same degree as me, but she was much more knowledgeable about the subject than I . We even were taught with the same textbook. The difference is her class sizes were smaller and her teacher took more time with each student. I found out her class had about 20 people vs 55 in mine. We both had about the same GPA.

 
Originally posted by: Modelworks
It really depends on what is being taught. GPA does not tell the whole story about someone with a degree. I learned this from another employee who had the same degree as me, but she was much more knowledgeable about the subject than I . We even were taught with the same textbook. The difference is her class sizes were smaller and her teacher took more time with each student. I found out her class had about 20 people vs 55 in mine. We both had about the same GPA.
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So I take it when it comes to an "oh shit" moment, you do better cause you have less attention given to you, and probably explanations that were not simply as good.

I've heard the arguments for both. I went to public, if I had a choice again I'd probably do private
 
I go to a private school that costs 28K a year.

I go for about 4K a year after scholarships. Most kids get at least 8K off.
 
Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
Take St. Mary's CA for instance-
Undergraduate Student Expense Budget 2009-2010 (for a 9-month school year)
Tuition & Fees $33,910
Room & Board $11,940
Books & Supplies $1,512
Personal/Misc. $2,250
Transportation $792
TOTAL $50,404

What's the point of spending 200k over 4 years on a private school when you're going to compete with someone who spent 35k to get a BA from a state school? As an employer myself, I barely look at GPA let alone the school an applicant attended if it isn't a top 10 school...

Discuss
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Your kids don't have to hear the theory of evolution or other such heresy?

Most employers do look at GPA, but your St. Mary's degree won't help you against people that went to ranked and recognizable schools.
 
Do people really pay "full retail" to get to go to a private university. I think not unless your family is loaded financially.
 
well prob cause they liked the atmosphere etc. or didn't get into those schools... I'm still trying to figure out how big the gap is between the 25th school and the 30th... i bet it's so obscure that it doesn't matter... But then I forget I'm at ATOT where everyone makes 6 figures, went to a top 5 school, would never talk to a "simpleton" who attended public school and shits pure gold.

 
Well, public tuition only comes with in-state schools, which for me are California schools. Especially now with the budget crisis, the price for Berkeley/UCLA (along with living expenses) has gone up a lot. So I ended up going to a private school, which gave me a scholarship with their quadrillion-dollar endowment 😛. Over 4 years, I think the price is about $10,000 more, which isn't that much considering education costs today.


PS, feed my school's endowment, drink more Coca-Cola!
 
Originally posted by: Kaieye
Do people really pay "full retail" to get to go to a private university. I think not unless your family is loaded financially.
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No, but the increased "financial aid" from most universities usually means more loans.
 
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Depends, maybe that school has a particular specialty. Maybe the individual didn't get into a less expensive school. Or maybe they visited, liked the atmosphere, students, etc, and decided to take out the loans or had folks that would pay for it.

School choices aren't always all about rank.
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private schools 99999999999999999.999999999/1 are much harder to get into then the state schools.

as long as you have a 3.0 gpa and at least 500 on each SAT you will get in any state school.




OP- maybe they got a full scholarship there. only reason I would go to a school like that
 
We expect 17-18 year olds to make informed decisions about money and their education? LMAO

They've been spoon fed that they need to go certain schools with certain ranks otherwise they won't get a good job, or this discipline makes this much money... blah blah blah.

The realization is this. Other than just the actual elite schools and programs, you can go a decent school and get a great education without incurring insane debt. Hell most students don't know they can save money going to a tech school to knock out the classes no one cares about. No one cares you paid $300 for English 101 and 102 at No Name Tech. Even if you got an A in 101 and 102 at Harvard, no one would care(actually they would probably laugh at you for not having AP credit). Some classes are just filler, and no one cares where you take it. Hell you can save a ton of money just getting a good 2 year degree in a program that interests you.

Plus these "kids" don't understand, 90+% of the people getting polical science, communications, psychology and the other overproduced degrees will not make a lot of money starting out. Schools need to start restricting the number of graduates in these programs, or we're going to continue to see the erosion of the value of a bachelor's degree.

I'm surprised we don't have more high schools replacing "honors" courses with AP courses. There is no reason most collge bound high school grads should not already have some AP credit. It's so silly to think a 16-17 can't pass an AP exam, but when they're 18-19, all of the suddent they can pass the college class. That's as asinine as you can get.
 
Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Depends, maybe that school has a particular specialty. Maybe the individual didn't get into a less expensive school. Or maybe they visited, liked the atmosphere, students, etc, and decided to take out the loans or had folks that would pay for it.

School choices aren't always all about rank.
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private schools 99999999999999999.999999999/1 are much harder to get into then the state schools.

as long as you have a 3.0 gpa and at least 500 on each SAT you will get in any state school.




OP- maybe they got a full scholarship there. only reason I would go to a school like that
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None of the flagship state schools (aka the Div I-A football schools 😛) will take someone with a 1000 SAT (except athletes). Smaller state schools probably would, though.
 
So much misinformation...


No, not all are 99999x harder to get into.

Depending on how well the school is doing, they can offer more financial aid than a state school that keeps getting their budget cut (this isn't all loans either).

 
To get into the top state schools in NY, you need at least a 1200 SAT (on the first two parts.)


But there's more to it than classes at private schools. There's also a lot of networking that can go on. That's one area where it gives a lot of the savvier students a major leg up. It can mean increased access to certain internships which a wise student can parlay into a good paying job when they graduate.
 
Originally posted by: A5
Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Depends, maybe that school has a particular specialty. Maybe the individual didn't get into a less expensive school. Or maybe they visited, liked the atmosphere, students, etc, and decided to take out the loans or had folks that would pay for it.

School choices aren't always all about rank.
Click to expand...

private schools 99999999999999999.999999999/1 are much harder to get into then the state schools.

as long as you have a 3.0 gpa and at least 500 on each SAT you will get in any state school.




OP- maybe they got a full scholarship there. only reason I would go to a school like that
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None of the flagship state schools (aka the Div I-A football schools 😛) will take someone with a 1000 SAT (except athletes). Smaller state schools probably would, though.
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Some schools try to offer transition programs, which help people who don't meet all the requirements adjust to college life. The more popular schools probably don't use their resources for that since they get enough qualified applicants.
 
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