Prisoner scalded to death in shower, guards will not be charged

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mxnerd

mxnerd

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Florida again?

Just how many horrible stories are going on in this fxxked up state every day?
 
shortylickens

shortylickens

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Maybe we should invest more time and money into preventing crime instead of trying to contain criminals?
 
theeedude

theeedude

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pcgeek11 said:
And don't think for a minute that we don't appreciate it.
Thanks!
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See, it works out well for everyone. You can live in your police state paradise without my condescending presence, while I can spend my vacation money in places that are actually worth it to visit.
 
pcgeek11

pcgeek11

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senseamp said:
See, it works out well for everyone. You can live in your police state paradise without my condescending presence, while I can spend my vacation money in places that are actually worth it to visit.
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Fantasy Land.. :rolleyes:
 
NTMBK

NTMBK

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The entire American prison system looks pretty F'ed up to an outsider. Just look at how it is portrayed in your own media- the assumption is that "you're going to jail" is equivalent to "you're going to be raped, beaten and murdered".
 
ch33zw1z

ch33zw1z

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NTMBK said:
The entire American prison system looks pretty F'ed up to an outsider. Just look at how it is portrayed in your own media- the assumption is that "you're going to jail" is equivalent to "you're going to be raped, beaten and murdered".
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Yup, and that's just the guards.
 
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momeNt

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Really compounds the issue when they issue this memo and say no fault found and that the shower was perfectly safe.

Disgusting people.
 
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interchange

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I have limited experience with forensic psychiatry, but I have some. What I can say is that deinstitutionalization addressed a critical lack of human rights in our mental health care. But it was out of the frying pan and into the fire with so many incarcerated people being mentally ill.

Our criminal justice system is horrifying and systematically reinforces an underprivileged class.
 
dainthomas

dainthomas

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mxnerd said:
Florida again?

Just how many horrible stories are going on in this fxxked up state every day?
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No one could pay me enough money to live in that joke of a state. I won't even visit. Maybe an airport layover if I was on the way to somewhere that sucked less (which is basically anywhere).
 
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Darwin333

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Sheik Yerbouti said:
not for those benefiting from for-profit prisons.
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Believe it or not but even those prisons owned and ran by local governments are "for-profit". For instance in a lot of cities/parishes (counties) in Louisiana if you are arrested for whatever reason, say you forgot to pay a ticket, and you pay your bail at 3pm you won't be released until after midnight. Usually between midnight and 1am. Why? Because you are counted as being there for the entire day and the jail gets paid by the state for you to be there. It's an absurdly low sum of money too that just about anyone would gladly pay to get out even an hour early, something like $35.

There are also federal funds, asset seizure and all sorts of other ways the government profits off of arresting and locking your ass up. We don't have the highest prisoner population, both total number and per-capita, in the entire world for nothing.
 
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Darwin333

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senseamp said:
This is why I try not to go Republican states.
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California has some of the notoriously worst prisons in the country. In 2013 Pelican Bay had 1,500 inmates out of 3,500 total living in solitary confinement, 500 of which have been in solitary for over a decade, which is quite literally psychological torture and should be outlawed as cruel and unusual punishment. It can, and does, quite literally drive people insane. It's also notorious for rape both by prisoners and guards.

Then you have LA County where "To be an inmate in the Los Angeles County jails is to fear attacks" by a "savage gang of deputies," explains an extensive 2011 report (PDF) from the American Civil Liberties Union, which processes about 4,500 complaints each year from inmates of the nation's largest jail system. Here are a few stories:

In one alleged act of retaliation, two officers delivered a fierce beating to a prisoner who earlier had spoken to an ACLU representative on the block, "hitting him repeatedly in the face and knees with a flashlight" (he later received stitches on both sides of his face) before pepper-spraying him and throwing him down a flight of stairs. As the man lay bleeding, one of the deputies allegedly called out, "'You fucking whiners, tell this to the ACLU, I dare you.'"

In another case, deputies, believing a prisoner had called them "gay," allegedly slammed the man's head into a concrete wall, causing a concussion and a gash that required 35 stitches. He was then punched, kicked, pepper-sprayed, and shocked with a stun gun. The ACLU has even received reports of attacks on inmates who are mentally ill or confined to wheelchairs. Thomas Parker, a former FBI agent who oversaw the investigation of the Rodney King beating, called many of the routine beatings in the LA County jails "far more severe than the King beating."

Then you have Rikers Island in New York, the worst prison in the country, where the guards ran a "secret society" fight club getting inmates to extort and beat other inmates leading to one juvenile offender being stomped to death inside his cell.

Orleans Parish Prison, Louisiana might be a red state but New Orleans couldn't possibly be more blue, which has more fucked up problems than I can list.

My point isn't to say that blue or red states treat their prisoners worse it's that we as a nation ALL treat our prisoners very very badly. Texas has another 2 of the top 10 worst in the country. No Florida prison even made the top 10 worst list although I'm sure they are just as fucked up as California prisons. This is not a republican or democrat problem my friend, it's one problem that both sides should be able to unite on instead of politicizing it as you are attempting to do.
 
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Darwin333

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senseamp said:
Where people aren't cooked alive with impunity.
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I am pretty sure that you live in California, the state which has the most prisoners in long-term solitary confinement which is, in every aspect of the word, torture. Here is just one of tens of thousands of sane people being driven mad by long-term solitary confinement:

This particular lawsuit details the case of Jack Powers, a convicted bank robber who landed at ADX after escaping from another prison. Powers, according to his suit, "had no history or symptoms of serious mental illness" when he arrived at ADX 11 years ago. While there, in addition to repeated suicide attempts, he has removed one of his testicles, bitten off a finger and amputated another one, sliced off his earlobes, and severed his Achilles tendon. ADX officials, the lawsuit alleges, in some instances treated these acts of self-mutilation as disciplinary violations.

As horrible as being cooked alive sounds at least his torture was over relatively quickly. I would much prefer it to being driven insane to the point of cutting off my own body parts...
 
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