Prisoner Abuse Pattern: American Penchant for Homosexual Acts?

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Infohawk

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I read news that is not presented in 15 second blurbs and that is detailed. When I look at the amount of gay-sex related abuse stories vs. religious stories, I still see more gay-sex stories. In other words, I think there really are more gay-sex abuses going on than religious abuses.
 

arsbanned

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EagleKeeper has it right. This stuff is engineered to extract information and break down the resistance. This isn't something some latent 'mos (not that there's anything wrong with that :D) dreamt up over night in Iraq.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
As more and more prisoner abuse stories come out, one of the oddest aspects is that American troops seem obsessed with homosexual acts. Moreover, they like to take pictures of the homosexual acts and naked men. Where did these interests come from?

I always thought the army promoted masculinity. Should we afraid that US reputation will be associated with homosexuality? Will US troops be seen not just as Western imperialists but now also as homosexual rapists by their prey?

What is your view view of this pattern?

And don't tell me they simply want to humiliate the Arabs. This goes beyond that. They are taking pictures for their own use and there are many ways to hurt people-- there is an intrinsic fascination with homosexuality among our troops. Why?

Umm, a handful of people were involved. Where do you come up with "an American penchant"?
 

Infohawk

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arsbanned, when you say engineered, do you think that this is something that was planned up by the higher ups? I mean with this much homosexuality, someone must have had gay sex in mind when coming up with plan. Basically what i'm asking is: are the troops gay or are their leaders gay?

(I am not saying there's anything wrong with gays)
 

arsbanned

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The intelligence people know that homosexuality is repugnant to Muslim men. So they employ it, force the prisoners into compromising situations, as a way of demoralizing the prisoners and as a means for extracting information from them.
The U.S. runs schools in the U.S. where interrogation techniques are trained, so, yeah, it comes from above.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
arsbanned, when you say engineered, do you think that this is something that was planned up by the higher ups? I mean with this much homosexuality, someone must have had gay sex in mind when coming up with plan. Basically what i'm asking is: are the troops gay or are their leaders gay?

(I am not saying there's anything wrong with gays)

They are not saying anyone is GAY.. you are..saying that :p

These are "methods" that have been designed/engineered etc. etc. that the military belives will work as an interrogation tool.

TBH... I think our military was probably TOLD by Jordanian or Egyptian or Sudanese or Pakistani interrogators that these methods are effective against muslims
 

Infohawk

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arsbanned, I hear so much about Muslim men having a problem with homosexuality. Let's be honest, most societies around the world would find this very problematic, not to mention many Americans. I only say that to stress that I think this is more about the abusERS than the abusED.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Infohawk
arsbanned, when you say engineered, do you think that this is something that was planned up by the higher ups? I mean with this much homosexuality, someone must have had gay sex in mind when coming up with plan. Basically what i'm asking is: are the troops gay or are their leaders gay?

(I am not saying there's anything wrong with gays)

They are not saying anyone is GAY.. you are..saying that :p

These are "methods" that have been designed/engineered etc. etc. that the military belives will work as an interrogation tool.

TBH... I think our military was probably TOLD by Jordanian or Egyptian or Sudanese or Pakistani interrogators that these methods are effective against muslims


I didn't say they're gay. I'm considering it and asking P&N. I definitely think there's homosexuality on the troops or their leaders' mind. I also think popular opinion around the world will head towards "American soldiers are gay perverts." Let's face it, the French surrendered quickly in WW2 and now they are the butt of jokes. I think we can assume the same will happen to the US troops.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Infohawk
arsbanned, when you say engineered, do you think that this is something that was planned up by the higher ups? I mean with this much homosexuality, someone must have had gay sex in mind when coming up with plan. Basically what i'm asking is: are the troops gay or are their leaders gay?

(I am not saying there's anything wrong with gays)

They are not saying anyone is GAY.. you are..saying that :p

These are "methods" that have been designed/engineered etc. etc. that the military belives will work as an interrogation tool.

TBH... I think our military was probably TOLD by Jordanian or Egyptian or Sudanese or Pakistani interrogators that these methods are effective against muslims


I didn't say they're gay. I'm considering it and asking P&N. I definitely think there's homosexuality on the troops or their leaders' mind. I also think popular opinion around the world will head towards "American soldiers are gay perverts." Let's face it, the French surrendered quickly in WW2 and now they are the butt of jokes. I think we can assume the same will happen to the US troops.



Did you read anything past the first line of my post?
 

Infohawk

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Dahunan. yes i did. They've been brought up by other people. I stand by my position that gay sex is equally repugnant to most cultures (wrong or not). Like I said above, I don't think this is about the Muslims, but more about the abusers. Just imagine if people were forcing Americans to have gay sex. Americans would be equally traumatized and outraged.

Someone also said Muslims don't care about torture as much as gay sex. Please. They are homo sapiens. They have pain sensors. When they hurt, they hurt. This could have been done (as it's been done so often in history), without resorting to gay sex. But someone wanted gay sex involved.
 

arsbanned

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hehe. We can have Queer Eye sessions to spruce up Military Uniforms. No more drab barracks living! Fresh cut flowers! :D The enemy will start wearing armor over their a*sses. :D A*s Armor.
Sorry. I can't help it.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
The intelligence people know that homosexuality is repugnant to Muslim men. So they employ it, force the prisoners into compromising situations, as a way of demoralizing the prisoners and as a means for extracting information from them.
The U.S. runs schools in the U.S. where interrogation techniques are trained, so, yeah, it comes from above.

I'm sure that's the reasoning, but if they think it's going to help their cause they are sadly mistaken. While possibly breaking down the will of the prisoners, they are enraging the Masses.