printer sharing trouble

[68falcon]

i have a lexmark z22 printer connected to a windows 98se machine
i have two other xp machines connected to the network.
one of the xp machines can print to the printer fine but the other will not print
i went through the sames steps for both machines
how can i fix it
i dont know if i gave enough info for the problem so just ask
thanks in advance

 

[w00t]

you have to have all the same os's i thought.

 

[68falcon]

i wouldnt think so because the printer is on an 98se machine and one of the xp machines work the other one doesnt

 

[68falcon]

anybody?

 

[JimPhelpsMI]

Hi, My only thought is did you load the Z22 driver on both XP machines? Jim

 

[Hyun]

Well, what's the difference between the two XP machines? Are they both Home or Pro? Do they both have SP2? Are the firewall settings the same on both machines? More info please!

 

[EvilHomer]

You need to add Netbeui on to the Windows XP machines ....Netbeui is on the is on the Win XP disk under : ValueAdd : MSFT : NET : NETBUEI...Just read the TXT file in the netbuei folder and it will explain ho to install it...also make sure all of the computers are in the same workgroup....it should work fine after that..

 

[68falcon]

Hi, My only thought is did you load the Z22 driver on both XP machines? Jim

the drivers should be in xp, when i go to add the printer it says incorrect drivers may be installed and ask me to select the drivers from a list and i did that. I did it on both computers, it worked on one but not on the other

Well, what's the difference between the two XP machines? Are they both Home or Pro? Do they both have SP2? Are the firewall settings the same on both machines? More info please!

they are both pro, SP2, the firewall settings should be the same, i havent done anything to change them on either one but a game or other software program might have changed them. Anything else you need?

You need to add Netbeui on to the Windows XP machines ....Netbeui is on the is on the Win XP disk under : ValueAdd : MSFT : NET : NETBUEI...Just read the TXT file in the netbuei folder and it will explain ho to install it...also make sure all of the computers are in the same workgroup....it should work fine after that..

do i really need Netbeui to do it or is that just your personal preference because it worked on one computer with out Netbeui

the printer will work on the computer just being hooked up to it. but wont work on the network
the network is hooked up through a router

 

[boomerang]

In Printers and Faxes, right click the printer and choose Properties. Click on the Ports tab and compare the two XP machines. See if there are any differences.

 

[68falcon]

In Printers and Faxes, right click the printer and choose Properties. Click on the Ports tab and compare the two XP machines. See if there are any differences.

i went to properties and compared everything and the whole thing is exactly the same

 

[boomerang]

Can you ping the 98 machine from the problem XP machine?

 

[68falcon]

Can you ping the 98 machine from the problem XP machine?

i havent tried to ping it but my brother and i played half-life multiplayer on it an i shared some files with it and everything worked fine there

i ran windows xp trouble shooter and i said something about the printers ip address couldnt be ping or something
ill get the specifics later tonight

 

[boomerang]

I think I'd uninstall it, reboot and reinstall. Something got hosed.

NetBeui is a quick fix for a lot of XP networking problems. It's easy to setup. It could be easier than trying to track down what's really happening.

Tutorial

Edit: The install on 98 is basically the same, but if I remember correctly the Protocal is already installed and available. You do need to bind it to your NIC.

A quote from the tutorial.

In many cases TCP/IP is working well with the Internet but it is not functioning for Local File/Printer Sharing. NetBEUI might "Bail" out and will allow Easy Local File/Printer Sharing.

 

[68falcon]

do i need to install Netbeui on all computers or just the one having the problem
if so how do i do it on 98se
after i install what do i do

 

[boomerang]

In 98,

Click Start, Settings, Control Panel, and double click the Network icon. Click the Add button.

Click Protocol and Add

Under Manufacturers, click Microsoft and under Network Protocols choose NetBEUI.

You may need your 98 disk as 98 was kinda goofy that way. And you'll have to reboot.

There is nothing else to "do". Once NetBEUI is installed on all machines the usage will be seamless to you.

Do a google search for 98 and NetBEUI if you need more info. You should come up with all the info you need. Most of this is from memory and it's been awhile.

If it doesn't work there is no harm done. You can't really mess anything up and it is easily undone.

Edit: Go ahead and do all. Even the XP that's working.

 

[68falcon]

if i install netbeui can i still play games like i did with tci/ip or will the game not recognize it

 

[EvilHomer]

Netbeui should not affect anything other than letting the Win 98 machine communicate with the Win XP machines ... install it on both of the XP computers and it is a piece of cake to install on the 98 machine if it is not already on it .... Its not a quick fix ..its actually the proper fix

 

[68falcon]

ok, i installed netbeui on all the computers
the xp machine that worked all along can see both the 98se machine and the other xp machine
the xp machine that didnt work can see the 98 machine but cant access it, it say:
"computer" is not accessible , unexpected network error

the 98 machine can see the xp machine that originally wouldnt work but cant access it, it says :
cant acess "computer" network busy

both machines can access the xp machine that has worked all along

the xp machine that isnt working is real new, i just built it and it has gigabyte lan, the other two use 10 mbps, and the gigabyte is set to autosense, should i change it to 10 mbps as well?

 

[boomerang]

By any chance do the two XP machines have the same computer name?

Disable the firewall on the XP machines temporarily as a test.

Are you running any additional firewall software?

 

[68falcon]

By any chance do the two XP machines have the same computer name?

different names

Disable the firewall on the XP machines temporarily as a test.

that didnt do anything

Are you running any additional firewall software?

nope

 

[boomerang]

I'd post this over in the Networking Forum. I'm certain I'm overlooking something but it's tough trouble-shooting long distance when you can't be hands-on.

Sorry.

 

[68falcon]

thanks for everyones help
i posted it on the networking a while ago but there must not be many people on it because it takes a while for anyone to reply