Priming The Matrix : Revolutions... 29 days to go

[Rapidskies]

I think, in the next Matrix movie, Neo will "wakeup" in MiddleEarth and realize that he is actually Aniken Skywalker.

 

[Wintermute76]

-now what I'm wondering is if "01 was engulfed in the glow of a thousands suns" how did the machines survive the intial EMP blasts nukes deliver when detonated?

Nukes need to be detonated higher in the atmosphere in order to generate an EMP.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: AgaBooga
I'd like to see reloaded come out on dvd first, I like to watch the entire series upto that point before I go see the next movie, hehe. Same with LOTR.

u behind!

 

[GasX]

Public Enemy said it best....


"Don't believe the hype it's a sequel!"

 

[Spoooon]

Is the Animatrix worth buying? I saw it used at hastings for pretty cheap.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Spoooon

There is no you!

 

[Palek]

Originally posted by: Wintermute76

-now what I'm wondering is if "01 was engulfed in the glow of a thousands suns" how did the machines survive the intial EMP blasts nukes deliver when detonated?

Nukes need to be detonated higher in the atmosphere in order to generate an EMP.

According to this article on EMP, that is not the case. It specifically mentions SR-EMP generated by low-altitude nuclear bursts which, according to the writer, pose a much greater threat on both military and civilian equipment. Of course the range of the pulse is much more limited when compared to high-altitude detonations, but the EMP is there nevertheless, unless I totally misunderstood that article.

 

[JoeKing]

30 Days to go until the movie is out!

Question 2
Why didn?t the humans just build more machines to wage war against the machines?

 

[DurocShark]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: AgaBooga
I'd like to see reloaded come out on dvd first, I like to watch the entire series upto that point before I go see the next movie, hehe. Same with LOTR.

It will.

Oct 14... I'll be buying it. I've already gotten a copy on VCD that's pretty poorly compressed, but I wanted to see it before my son does...

I'm half way through Reloaded and so far, the fight scenes are interesting, but the rest is crap.

 

[Palek]

Originally posted by: Joeyman
30 Days to go until the movie is out!

Question 2
Why didn't the humans just build more machines to wage war against the machines?

Hmmm. I thought they did. In the Second Reneissance humans had EVA's, bombers, tanks etc, but they woke up too late. By the time they realised the machines were taking over, their manufacturing capabilities were probably no match for the machines' deadly efficiency and precision.

How's that for an answer?

 

[Useless2]

Take a closer look at the bombers that scorch the sky in the Second Renaissance for another clue.

 

[EngenZerO]

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: Joeyman

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: EngenZerO
I read the so called spoilers of the movie and they seem to coincide with the latest trailer. If those spoilers are true...I dunno what to think

do you really think someone is going to make up spoilers that are inconsistent with the trailer? come on now...

as for the emp question, it is possible to shield machines from emp

So why weren't arnt the machines shielded from emp blasts now?

the military has them. i would guess all machines aren't shielded because it is too expensive. but it exists

read them if you like


movie spoiler

I believe this was posted after the first trailer came out. Now if you watch the latest trailer...it makes a little more sense.

 

[Wintermute76]

Originally posted by: Palek

Originally posted by: Wintermute76

-now what I'm wondering is if "01 was engulfed in the glow of a thousands suns" how did the machines survive the intial EMP blasts nukes deliver when detonated?

Nukes need to be detonated higher in the atmosphere in order to generate an EMP.

According to this article on EMP, that is not the case. It specifically mentions SR-EMP generated by low-altitude nuclear bursts which, according to the writer, pose a much greater threat on both military and civilian equipment. Of course the range of the pulse is much more limited when compared to high-altitude detonations, but the EMP is there nevertheless, unless I totally misunderstood that article.

SREMP wouldn't really be a factor since the range of it is within the area immediately affected by the blast and thermal radaition. 3 to 8 km according to the article. A high altitude blast could affect the whole US, more practical if your aim is to cause EMP and not just surface destruction.

 

[Palek]

Originally posted by: Wintermute76

Originally posted by: Palek

Originally posted by: Wintermute76

-now what I'm wondering is if "01 was engulfed in the glow of a thousands suns" how did the machines survive the intial EMP blasts nukes deliver when detonated?

Nukes need to be detonated higher in the atmosphere in order to generate an EMP.

According to this article on EMP, that is not the case. It specifically mentions SR-EMP generated by low-altitude nuclear bursts which, according to the writer, pose a much greater threat on both military and civilian equipment. Of course the range of the pulse is much more limited when compared to high-altitude detonations, but the EMP is there nevertheless, unless I totally misunderstood that article.

SREMP wouldn't really be a factor since the range of it is within the area immediately affected by the blast and thermal radaition. 3 to 8 km according to the article. A high altitude blast could affect the whole US, more practical if your aim is to cause EMP and not just surface destruction.

Indeed, but that still does not answer the original question - which is, if 01 was completely blanket-bombed with nuclear warheads, how come the machines survived the EMP's? In the animated series it seemed like every square inch was engulfed in the nuclear blaze, so we can assume the SREMP pulses would have pretty much covered the entire robot nation as well. Yet the robots were unaffected. But then later on, in Neo's time the sentinels are disabled by the EMP weapon!

I guess there is really only one answer to the question: the screenplay writers did not think that far. Oh well, we've seen worse (MUCH WORSE) inconsistencies in other sci-fi flicks. Next!

 

[JoeKing]

Originally posted by: Palek

Originally posted by: Joeyman
30 Days to go until the movie is out!

Question 2
Why didn't the humans just build more machines to wage war against the machines?

Hmmm. I thought they did. In the Second Reneissance humans had EVA's, bombers, tanks etc, but they woke up too late. By the time they realised the machines were taking over, their manufacturing capabilities were probably no match for the machines' deadly efficiency and precision.

How's that for an answer?

good answer <==notice the double wink

 

[JoeKing]

29 days to go!!!!

Quesiton 3

What happens to the matrix when the humans trapped in the system reach the point in time when the machines take over?

 

[zephyrprime]

if 01 was completely blanket-bombed with nuclear warheads, how come the machines survived the EMP's

I don't see what's so amazing about it. There are any number of ways to shild or limit the effects of EMP but they're all a pain. Use metal shields, or better yet use a superconducting shell. The problem? You gotta be completely covered. And you can limit the length of wires in your machines. And the easy way to avoid EMP problems is to turn off during the EMP. Doesn't offer complete protection if you connected to enough long wires but if you're not, offers super protection.

 

[Palek]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime

if 01 was completely blanket-bombed with nuclear warheads, how come the machines survived the EMP's

I don't see what's so amazing about it. There are any number of ways to shild or limit the effects of EMP but they're all a pain. Use metal shields, or better yet use a superconducting shell. The problem? You gotta be completely covered. And you can limit the length of wires in your machines. And the easy way to avoid EMP problems is to turn off during the EMP. Doesn't offer complete protection if you connected to enough long wires but if you're not, offers super protection.

Okay, but you are still missing the point, which is: let's assume the robots survived the EMP during the first nuclear war because they were protected against it. But then why aren't the sentinels impervious to the EMP weapon on the Nebuchadnazzar? That was the question. And again, to me the answer is simple: the screenplay writers must have overlooked this issue. There is no logical explanation to it. Unless it's something like, "Well, the machines figured that since they had gained complete control over humans, they did not need EMP protection anymore."

OR... There could be a massive surprise awaiting us all in the final episode that puts it all in perspective.

Woo-hoo! Cannot wait!

 

[0roo0roo]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=253666&highlight=matrix

 

[Palek]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=253666&highlight=matrix

Must..... Resist..... No...... Clicking......










Actually, I'd rather wait to find out in the theatre.
<EDIT>Besides, pointless speculation is so much more fun :-B (<- Nerd emoticon)</EDIT>

 

[Medea]

I've got one concern re: Revolution. It hasn't been rated yet, and it's not that far from its release date. When this occurred with other movies, it was because some violent scenes (and/or sexual scenes) bumped it to an X rating which would spell death at the box office.

If this is what's happening with Revolution and one or more scenes get deleted to please the raters, I hope the final edit doesn't turn the movie into a chopped-up version of the original script.

 

[JoeKing]

hopefully this isn't the case. I woulnd't worry to much though since the matrix franchise makes so much money I doubt the ratings board would completly strip it bare.

 

[Palek]

Originally posted by: Joeyman
hopefully this isn't the case. I woulnd't worry to much though since the matrix franchise makes so much money I doubt the ratings board would completly strip it bare.

Yeah, clearly these movies are not for kids, so I don't think the editors will try to make it kindergarten-friendly. Didn't the first two receive an "R" rating? I, for one would not be surprised if they had given them NC-17. Some of the stuff in these films could be pretty disturbing to a young mind...

 

[Kev]

theres no way these movies could be anything more than R after seeing the R-rated stuff out there