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Ken g6

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Current challenge: Prime Sierpinski Problem (PSP) LLR, December 12-21 (04:19 UTC)

Happy new year! Here's the (tentative) list of this year's PrimeGrid challenges:

Code:
#  Date             Time UTC  Project  Duration  Challenge
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1   7-22 January    05:43:00  SoB-LLR  15 days   Conjunction of Venus & Jupiter Challenge
2   5-10 March      18:00:00  GCW-LLR  5 days    Year of the Pig(ging out on our CPU cycles :P) Challenge
3  24-31 May        00:00:00  TRP-LLR  7 days    Hans Ivar Riesel's 90th Birthday Challenge
4  15-20 July       20:17:00  PPS-LLR  5 days    50th Anniversary of the Moon Landing Challenge
5   3-10 August     00:00:00  ESP-LLR  7 days    Lennart Vogel Honorary Challenge
6  21-26 September  11:00:00  AP27     5 days    Oktoberfest Challenge
7  10-15 October    18:00:00  PPS-DIV  5 days    World Maths Day Challenge
8  24-29 October    00:00:00  321-LLR  5 days    50 years First ARPANET Connection Challenge
9   1-11 November   18:04:00  PSP-LLR  10 days   Transit of Mercury Across the Sun Challenge
10 12-22 December   04:19:00  GFN-21+  10 days   Aussie, Aussie, Aussie! Oi! Oi! Oi! Summer Solstice Challenge

What you need:
  • One or more fast x86 processors, preferably with lots of cores. (Even slow ones might do!)
  • Windows (Vista or later 64-bit, or XP or later 32-bit), Linux, or MacOS 10.4+.
  • BOINC, attached to PrimeGrid (http://www.primegrid.com/).
  • Your PrimeGrid Preferences with only the above project(s) selected in the Projects section.
  • Patience! All of these projects run long, slow WUs, at least on your CPU. As a result, no challenge is less than five days long. :eek:

What may help LLR (all but two of the challenges):
  • An Intel Sandy Bridge or later ("Core series" other than first-generation) processor with AVX may be 20-70% faster than with the default application. Sadly, that does not include Pentium or Celeron processors, or AMD processors.
  • In most challenges - probably all of these since their WUs are so large - it helps to enable multi-core processing with app_config.xml. Leave hyper-threading on if you do this!
  • Faster RAM might help on many challenges, as long as it's stable.
What may help in other challenges:
  • A GPU helps in two challenges.
  • Juggling in some extra WUs may help in challenges where you run more than one WU on the CPU at a time. (Or, switching to use all cores on one WU at the end may work equally well.)
  • Turning on hyper-threading may help.

What won't help (but won't hurt either):
  • A large amount of RAM.
  • Any Android devices.

What won't help (and will hurt, sort of):
  • Unstable processors. (Invalid work will be deducted! :eek: If Prime95 worked recently on your processor, it should be stable.)
  • Work not downloaded anduploaded within the challenge. (It's not counted.) Should you not be able to be in front of one or more computers at that time, there are several options:
    • You can often set BOINC's network connection preferences to wait until a minute or two after challenge time.
    • And for short work units, you can just set the queue level very low (0.01 days). This also makes it more likely that you will be a prime finder rather than a double-checker. But you might want to raise their queue size after the challenge is underway.

Welcome and good luck to all! :)

P.S. If no one has posted stats lately, try tracking your stats with my user script. With that installed, visit the current challenge's Team stats link for TeAm stats.
 
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Ken g6

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About 15-hour stats:

Rank___Credits____Username
57_____41428______Orange Kid
58_____41398______Ken_g6
61_____33273______biodoc

Rank__Credits____Team
12____132946_____Storm
13____132831_____Ukraine
14____132505_____Team 2ch
15____116100_____TeAm AnandTech
16____91448______BOINC@AUSTRALIA
17____91411______University of Maryland
18____91220______Team.se

Well, that's OK participation, but more would be nice. ;)
 

StefanR5R

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I guess I'll let one of the hosts which is currently looking for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence perform some Extra-Sensory Perception on the side.

PrimeGrid challenges were more fun ~2 years ago, when hardly anybody configured their computers adequately. ;-P
 

Ken g6

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Day 1 stats:

Rank___Credits____Username
52_____99795______biodoc
56_____91105______Orange Kid
64_____74534______Ken_g6
92_____33460______xii5ku

Rank__Credits____Team
11____399527_____Antarctic Crunchers
12____366465_____Storm
13____307566_____Ukraine
14____298896_____TeAm AnandTech
15____248542_____Team 2ch
16____174873_____University of Maryland
17____157581_____Team.se

Looks like the cavalry is here. ;) Meanwhile, I had a power outage, but everything's back up now.
 
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VirtualLarry

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Ooh, one Ryzen R5 3600 is in, although I've got a few straggling WCG WUs cooking too. Is there a way to "Pause" an entire project, including all in-progress and outstanding WUs? If not, there should be a way. Or a way to nominate a "Preferred Project", that is worked on exclusively, until un-nominated.
 

Kiska

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Ooh, one Ryzen R5 3600 is in, although I've got a few straggling WCG WUs cooking too. Is there a way to "Pause" an entire project, including all in-progress and outstanding WUs? If not, there should be a way. Or a way to nominate a "Preferred Project", that is worked on exclusively, until un-nominated.

You can "suspend" the project and "unsuspend" it when you want to
 
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Ken g6

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I got distracted by SETI and just remembered I should do...day 2.2 stats:

Rank___Credits____Username
58_____233793_____biodoc
60_____231910_____Orange Kid
68_____199010_____Ken_g6
89_____133998_____xii5ku
93_____125494_____crashtech

Rank__Credits____Team
10____1380144____Crunching@EVGA
11____1275605____Antarctic Crunchers
12____1061727____Storm
13____924208_____TeAm AnandTech
14____850575_____Ukraine
15____783978_____Team 2ch
16____501980_____BOINC@AUSTRALIA

I do hope more people will join us now that the sprint is over.
 

VirtualLarry

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I seem (?) to have more throughput with these ESP LLR tasks, running 1 task/core (6 tasks), as opposed to 1 task/thread (12 tasks).

At least, with all threads filled, it was showing completion times of 4d, now they're down to 2d.
 

biodoc

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I seem (?) to have more throughput with these ESP LLR tasks, running 1 task/core (6 tasks)

That should be perfect for that processor. The initial estimate for completion times are way off. For that processor it should be less than a day to complete the 6 tasks.
 

Modular

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Days? Mine are completing in minutes....ah crap, I forgot to switch my preferences to ESP LLR. Ooops. :rolleyes:

Glad you mentioned this. I didn't switch mine over either! Just made the change. Won't be able to dump the old WU's since I'm at work. Man...I was wondering why I wasn't showing up on the list of contributors... DOH
 

Ken g6

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Days does sound excessive. I'm getting four a day done on my old Skylake, one at a time. Or I would be if I didn't have to shut it down at night because of the heat.
 

TennesseeTony

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Yessir.... this is a copy/paste from PG's thread on this event:

Multi-threading optimisation instructions

Those looking to maximise their computer's performance during this challenge, or when running LLR in general, may find this information useful.


  • Your mileage may vary. Before the challenge starts, take some time and experiment and see what works best on your computer.
  • If you have an Intel CPU with hyperthreading, either turn off the hyperthreading in the BIOS, or set BOINC to use 50% of the processors.

    • If you're using a GPU for other tasks, it may be beneficial to leave hyperthreading on in the BIOS and instead tell BOINC to use 50% of the CPU's. This will allow one of the hyperthreads to service the GPU.

  • Use LLR's multithreaded mode. It requires a little bit of setup, but it's worth the effort. Follow these steps:

    • Create a app_config.xml file in the directory C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\www.primegrid.com\ (or wherever your BOINC data directory is located). For a quad core CPU, the file should contain the following contents. Change the two occurrences of "4" to the number of actual cores your computer has.

      <app_config>
    • <app>
    • <name>llrESP</name>
    • <fraction_done_exact/>
    • </app> <app_version>
    • <app_name>llrESP</app_name>
    • <cmdline>-t 4</cmdline>
    • <avg_ncpus>4</avg_ncpus>
    • </app_version>
    • </app_config>

    • After creating the file, click on "Options/Read config files". You should then restart BOINC or reboot.
    • The first time BOINC downloads a ESP task, it may act a little strange and download 4 tasks instead of 1. The run times on this first set of tasks may look a bit strange too. This is normal. This will also occur anytime BOINC downloads more than one task at a time. This can be avoided by setting "Use at most [ 1 ] % of the CPUs" before you download ESP tasks. After one task was downloaded, increase the percentage.
    • Some people have observed that when using multithreaded LLR, hyperthreading is actually beneficial. We encourage you to experiment and see what works best for you.
 
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Modular

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Yessir.... this is a copy/paste from PG's thread on this event:

Thanks for doing the legwork there. I'm still pretty green and don't know where to look for the most up-to-date info on things like this. It's overwhelming that every project has it's own little (or big) ecosystem with forums, users, etc.

I'm sure the longer you do this the smaller the world becomes, but right now I'm grateful for the hand holding!

Looks like I've got it sorted. I still have 8 downloaded WU's, but it's crunching away with all 4 cores on one at a time, and my CPU is only being used 50% according to Task Manager.